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Post by middleenglander on Oct 2, 2020 13:10:55 GMT
Woodbridge - 638 (69.9%)
Drake (Labour) - 158 (17.3%)
Stevens - 75 (8.2%)
Adams - 42 (4.6%)
Turnout 50.7%
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Post by yellowperil on Oct 2, 2020 13:23:28 GMT
Woodbridge - 638 (69.9%) Drake (Labour) - 158 (17.3%) Stevens - 75 (8.2%) Adams - 42 (4.6%) Turnout 50.7% Well at least those who predicted got the winner right, and johnloony was pretty accurate on that bit at least. The Labour candidate did better than he or I expected, but as I said before it may have had little to do with her Labour label as such- but having been the parliamentary candidate may have been a factor. |
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Post by Eastwood on Oct 2, 2020 13:25:40 GMT
Respectable 2nd place for Coilla Drake there. 17% on first preferences is the sort of numbers that could get her elected in 2022 once the second prefs come in. Would probably need either Clackson or Sinclair standing down to make it possible though.
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Post by manchesterman on Oct 2, 2020 13:50:46 GMT
ORKNEY UA; North Isles (Ind died). Candidates: ADAMS, Daniel James (No Description) DRAKE, Coilla Anne (Labour) STEVENS, Claire (Independent) WOODBRIDGE. Heather (Independent) 2017: Ind 290 (Sinclair), 256 (Woodbridge), 197 (Clackson), 118, 70, 70, 39, 35 2012: Ind 433 (Hagan), 308 (Clackson), 170, 144 (Sinclair) 2007: Ind 463 (Hagan), 154 (Clackson), 133 (Harcus), 123 (Sinclair), 105, 72, 41, 27, 15 (Hagan had been sitting councillor for Papa Westray, Westray and Eday. This ward is made up of the islands of (by descending order of population): Westray, Sanday, Stronsay, Shapinsay, Rousay, Eday, Papa Westray, North Ronaldsay, Wyre, Egilsay and Gairsay.The Labour candidate is from Westray, Stevens from Eday and Woodbridge from North Ronaldsay (she is also the daughter of the deceased councillor). Adams is from Kirkwall on Mainland. Coilla Drake is also the first candidate with a party label in this ward. Current Council: Ind 17; Orkney Manifesto Group 2; Grn 1; 1 vacancy
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Post by yellowperil on Oct 2, 2020 14:05:52 GMT
If I got the result a bit wrong (underestimated Woodbridge, though I thought she'd win comfortably, overestimated Stevens) my excuse is that I don't know the north islands all that well, though I'm fairly familiar with the Orcadian Mainland. The only one of the north islands I've spent some time on, doing archaeological fieldwork, is Rousay. My eldest son has however lived for a while on Sanday. Otherwise the nearest contact to these remotish islands is passing by them on the ferry to Shetland.
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Post by iainbhx on Oct 2, 2020 15:42:17 GMT
Woodbridge - 638 (69.9%) Drake (Labour) - 158 (17.3%) Stevens - 75 (8.2%) Adams - 42 (4.6%) Turnout 50.7% Well at least those who predicted got the winner right, and johnloony was pretty accurate on that bit at least. The Labour candidate did better than he or I expected, but as I said before it may have had little to do with her Labour label as such- but having been the parliamentary candidate may have been a factor. As I said, was from the largest island which certainly helped. |
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Post by yellowperil on Oct 2, 2020 15:56:39 GMT
Well at least those who predicted got the winner right, and johnloony was pretty accurate on that bit at least. The Labour candidate did better than he or I expected, but as I said before it may have had little to do with her Labour label as such- but having been the parliamentary candidate may have been a factor. As I said, was from the largest island which certainly helped. ...but Westray is still well under a quarter of the total population of these islands, so not enough to get anywhere near winning, not in a single seat by-election, anyway. Might give her a good start in a 3-member STV election though. |
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Post by neilm on Oct 2, 2020 17:07:45 GMT
ORKNEY UA; North Isles (Ind died). Candidates: ADAMS, Daniel James (No Description) DRAKE, Coilla Anne (Labour) STEVENS, Claire (Independent) WOODBRIDGE. Heather (Independent) 2017: Ind 290 (Sinclair), 256 (Woodbridge), 197 (Clackson), 118, 70, 70, 39, 35 2012: Ind 433 (Hagan), 308 (Clackson), 170, 144 (Sinclair) 2007: Ind 463 (Hagan), 154 (Clackson), 133 (Harcus), 123 (Sinclair), 105, 72, 41, 27, 15 (Hagan had been sitting councillor for Papa Westray, Westray and Eday. This ward is made up of the islands of (by descending order of population): Westray, Sanday, Stronsay, Shapinsay, Rousay, Eday, Papa Westray, North Ronaldsay, Wyre, Egilsay and Gairsay.The Labour candidate is from Westray, Stevens from Eday and Woodbridge from North Ronaldsay (she is also the daughter of the deceased councillor). Adams is from Kirkwall on Mainland. Coilla Drake is also the first candidate with a party label in this ward. Current Council: Ind 17; Orkney Manifesto Group 2; Grn 1; 1 vacancy Hands up who read that to themselves to the tune of We didnt start the fire by Billy Joel! I've got it queued on Spotify and will be using the alternative lyrics you've so helpfully suggested. |
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Post by london(ex)tory on Oct 4, 2020 8:33:29 GMT
Most important thing is that an election actually happened and the sky hasn't fallen in. It is an absolute disgrace that we are not allowed to have by-elections in England. An ever-growing number of residents are being denied proper local representation for no good reason. But also on a practical level, surely it would be a sensible idea to use by-elections as a series of test events for covid-secure / social distant polling stations rather than waiting until May find out if it's possible or not?
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 4, 2020 9:10:36 GMT
The last point especially is a good one, and that may be why Wales plans to hold some by-elections before May.
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Post by london(ex)tory on Oct 4, 2020 13:42:27 GMT
The last point especially is a good one, and that may be why Wales plans to hold some by-elections before May. Completely different context but we’ve just been at our first dog show since lockdown. Single breed show (so much less waiting around for other people/dogs to get through the ring first), smaller attendance and larger venue than normal. Perfect opportunity to try out the various covid protocols in a controlled way before trying anything much larger (like Crufts) and it worked brilliantly. |
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Post by neilm on Oct 4, 2020 16:05:00 GMT
Most important thing is that an election actually happened and the sky hasn't fallen in. It is an absolute disgrace that we are not allowed to have by-elections in England. An ever-growing number of residents are being denied proper local representation for no good reason. But also on a practical level, surely it would be a sensible idea to use by-elections as a series of test events for covid-secure / social distant polling stations rather than waiting until May find out if it's possible or not? Unfortunately, this is a level of logic that is missing from the UK government. |
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Post by peterl on Oct 4, 2020 16:21:45 GMT
There is a good case for a series of by elections being run in different areas, ranging from the very rural to the large city, as a pilot scheme with sutiable measures tried out. What is becoming especially concerning is that some councils, I know of Bournemouth Christchurch and Poole and Mid Devon for a certainty, are actually changing control on the basis of vacancies that can not be filled, which really is quite outrageous. Not to mention all the people whose work depends on election, such as printers, whose jobs are being put at risk by this cowardly action by an anti-democratic government.
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Post by hugh01 on Oct 4, 2020 20:44:01 GMT
The last point especially is a good one, and that may be why Wales plans to hold some by-elections before May. I think in Wales it was more of a consideration that they didnt want other elections the same day as Welsh Parliament and PCC elections |
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