YL
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Post by YL on Aug 7, 2020 20:06:05 GMT
The thing is that if this system had been used in the UK for long enough there'd probably be a Bristol seat called Colston.
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Post by bjornhattan on Aug 7, 2020 20:12:03 GMT
Wansbeck would definitely be Charlton, but which one? Don’t give the Boundary Commission ideas or we’ll end up with ‘Shearer East’ and ‘Shearer West’. Considering Shearer is from Gosforth, he has a legitimate claim to all three seats (since they all take in parts of Gosforth). I suspect he'd only have a shot at North though - East would surely have to be Armstrong, and how about Higgs for an obscure pick for Central? Gateshead is a tough one - Paul Gascoigne is too infamous and Harry Clasper too obscure. Swan might work, I suppose. |
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 7, 2020 20:25:03 GMT
Don’t give the Boundary Commission ideas or we’ll end up with ‘Shearer East’ and ‘Shearer West’. Considering Shearer is from Gosforth, he has a legitimate claim to all three seats (since they all take in parts of Gosforth). I suspect he'd only have a shot at North though - East would surely have to be Armstrong, and how about Higgs for an obscure pick for Central? Gateshead is a tough one - Paul Gascoigne is too infamous and Harry Clasper too obscure. Swan might work, I suppose. Githa Sowerby |
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 7, 2020 20:25:39 GMT
The thing is that if this system had been used in the UK for long enough there'd probably be a Bristol seat called Colston.  |
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Post by finsobruce on Aug 7, 2020 20:26:45 GMT
For Bootle, I'd choose Everett. Kenny Everett was born in Seaforth, and even though he was a Tory, he was a genius. And at the declaration the Returning Officer could read out the result and then say "But I'm telling you the plot!". |
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Post by Chris from Brum on Aug 7, 2020 20:36:53 GMT
Don’t give the Boundary Commission ideas or we’ll end up with ‘Shearer East’ and ‘Shearer West’. Considering Shearer is from Gosforth, he has a legitimate claim to all three seats (since they all take in parts of Gosforth). I suspect he'd only have a shot at North though - East would surely have to be Armstrong, and how about Higgs for an obscure pick for Central? Gateshead is a tough one - Paul Gascoigne is too infamous and Harry Clasper too obscure. Swan might work, I suppose. Armstrong could have whichever Northumberland seat included Rothbury/Cragside. Newcastle Central could be Grey, after the monument. This is the Earl Grey of tea fame (and the small matter of the Reform Act 1832). A later descendant is responsible for the Canadian Football League's Grey Cup. |
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Post by bjornhattan on Aug 7, 2020 20:58:59 GMT
Considering Shearer is from Gosforth, he has a legitimate claim to all three seats (since they all take in parts of Gosforth). I suspect he'd only have a shot at North though - East would surely have to be Armstrong, and how about Higgs for an obscure pick for Central? Gateshead is a tough one - Paul Gascoigne is too infamous and Harry Clasper too obscure. Swan might work, I suppose. Armstrong could have whichever Northumberland seat included Rothbury/Cragside. Newcastle Central could be Grey, after the monument. This is the Earl Grey of tea fame (and the small matter of the Reform Act 1832). A later descendant is responsible for the Canadian Football League's Grey Cup. I definitely think Grey deserves a constituency, but I'd put him further north. His stomping grounds were more in the Berwick constituency (which you'd name Armstrong). Another local titan, George Stephenson, could be commemorated in either Hexham (since he was from Wylam). If you wanted to confuse people, call North Tyneside Stephenson as well - but named after Robert. |
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Post by peterl on Aug 7, 2020 21:07:27 GMT
West Dorset could be Hardy. Winchester could be Alfred. One of the Portsmouth seats could be Dickens.
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Post by greenhert on Aug 7, 2020 21:12:46 GMT
The thing is that if this system had been used in the UK for long enough there'd probably be a Bristol seat called Colston. Exactly. In Australia several divisions were renamed in 2019 because of their namesakes' colonialist, racist past (e.g. the division of Batman was renamed Cooper) |
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Post by bjornhattan on Aug 7, 2020 21:23:20 GMT
West Dorset could be Hardy. Winchester could be Alfred. One of the Portsmouth seats could be Dickens. The other could be Brunel - even if I'd rather Brunel's seat was somewhere in "Great Western land", perhaps a Swindon seat to commemorate his role in the creation of the town. |
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Post by andrewteale on Aug 7, 2020 21:28:56 GMT
Bury North - Peel
Bury South - Wood
Bolton North East - Whitehead
Bolton South East - Dibnah
Bolton West - Lofthouse
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Post by Khunanup on Aug 7, 2020 21:29:19 GMT
Just as a bit of fun, what would various UK constituencies be called if they were named after famous people as they are in Australia? A few suggestions: Stratford-Upon-Avon - Shakespeare Hull West & Hessle - Wilberforce Merthyr Tydfil - Hardie (Keir's seat for most of his time in parliament) Grantham - Thatcher Gods no, every seat in Norfolk (and perhaps beyond) will be using their sliver of connection to call themselves Nelson! Don't worry, Portsmouth North would claim it, South could be Sellers... |
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Post by ilerda on Aug 7, 2020 21:29:22 GMT
Even in Australia a lot of the seats don't actually have a link to the person whose name they carry.
Many are just ascribed names of random historic figures, and over time the boundaries of the divisions change to the extent that the current area bears no relation to when it was created 100 years ago.
On this principle we'd name a random patch of Hertfordshire after Charles Darwin and suburban Sunderland after Emily Wilding Davison.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2020 21:33:45 GMT
West Dorset could be Hardy. Winchester could be Alfred. One of the Portsmouth seats could be Dickens. The other could be Brunel - even if I'd rather Brunel's seat was somewhere in "Great Western land", perhaps a Swindon seat to commemorate his role in the creation of the town. Bury North - Peel Bury South - Wood Bolton North East - Whitehead Bolton South East - Dibnah Bolton West - Lofthouse I wondered how long it would take us to find a railway link |
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Post by Andrew_S on Aug 7, 2020 21:43:04 GMT
Even in Australia a lot of the seats don't actually have a link to the person whose name they carry. Many are just ascribed names of random historic figures, and over time the boundaries of the divisions change to the extent that the current area bears no relation to when it was created 100 years ago. On this principle we'd name a random patch of Hertfordshire after Charles Darwin and suburban Sunderland after Emily Wilding Davison. IIRC in Canada they use a mixture of the UK and Australian way of naming constituencies. |
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Post by Andrew_S on Aug 7, 2020 21:47:06 GMT
Bury North - Peel Bury South - Wood Bolton North East - Whitehead Bolton South East - Dibnah Bolton West - Lofthouse I was just about to suggest that Tamworth could be named Peel. Maybe you could have Peel I and Peel II. |
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Post by andrewteale on Aug 7, 2020 21:49:20 GMT
Bury North - Peel Bury South - Wood Bolton North East - Whitehead Bolton South East - Dibnah Bolton West - Lofthouse I was just about to suggest that Tamworth could be named Peel. Maybe you could have Peel I and Peel II. There's only one way to sort this out...  |
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Post by Khunanup on Aug 7, 2020 21:50:18 GMT
West Dorset could be Hardy. Winchester could be Alfred. One of the Portsmouth seats could be Dickens. The other could be Brunel - even if I'd rather Brunel's seat was somewhere in "Great Western land", perhaps a Swindon seat to commemorate his role in the creation of the town. Both born in South (Dickens only just on current boundaries), but Inspector Clouseau has already got the nod... 😁 If not Nelson (the constituency is where Navy HQ is based, on Whale Island) then North could be Callaghan as the former PM was born right at the south of the constituency. |
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Post by Adrian on Aug 7, 2020 22:00:54 GMT
Halesowen and Rowley Regis could be Attwood.
There's a clear problem with this idea which is that women will be badly underrepresented in the names. That's why it's good to respect historical figures without naming things after them.
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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on Aug 7, 2020 22:03:17 GMT
Sheffield Hillsborough - Plenty of choices here, Bassett (Harry - sweets) or Firth (Mark - Steel) or even Stringfellow (Peter - nightclubs)
Sheffield Heeley - Graves (John George - Businessman who left sheffield Graves Park)
Sheffield Hallam - Johnson, (Amy - first lady to fly solo from Britain to Australia.) or Clegg (Charles - Footballer & FA President) - I put him here because then Clegg could have represented Clegg.
Sheffield Central - Mappin (Frederick - Cutler) or Palin (Michael) - The Chief Knight who says Ni really should represent Neepsend.
Sheffield South East - Brearley (Harry) the inventor of Stainless Steel should have one named after him.
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