Sibboleth
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Post by Sibboleth on Sept 6, 2014 23:31:31 GMT
Is this an official demarcation dispute, comrade?
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Post by No Offence Alan on Sept 6, 2014 23:39:38 GMT
A no vote and then rehiring? 90 days notice, redundancy cancelled. It's 45 days now for redundancy consultation. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2014 23:59:44 GMT
90 days notice, redundancy cancelled. It's 45 days now for redundancy consultation. Tory Bastards |
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Post by Devonian on Sept 7, 2014 6:36:01 GMT
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Post by Devonian on Sept 7, 2014 6:54:38 GMT
Will Cameron have to resign if he presides over the dissolution of the United Kingdom? I suggest that he should They've asked a question about that in this morning's YouGov Great Britain poll Do you support or oppose Scotland becoming a country independent of the rest of the United Kingdom Support 20% Oppose 60% Regional Crossbreak Scotland Support 45% Oppose 50% Extra Regional Crossbreak England and Wales Support 17% Oppose 61% If a Yes vote should Cameron resign or remain Remain 54% Resign 22% cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/document/e6yfutr1ad/YG-Archive-Pol-Sunday-Times-results-140905.pdf |
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Post by Devonian on Sept 7, 2014 7:07:20 GMT
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Post by Devonian on Sept 7, 2014 7:55:14 GMT
Well that's a turn-up for the books - the Nats' favourite pollster showing a worse Yes score than YouGov. Who is that poll for? The ukpollingreport.co.uk stating that the Panelbase poll was conducted for Yes Scotland, although I can't find any confirmation of that on the Panelbase or Yes Scotland websites. Yes Scotland are unsurprisingly leading with the YouGov poll. I suspect the Panelbase poll may be the one rumoured to be coming out a few days ago and that Yes Scotland sat on it when it didn't show a Yes lead and then let it out last night when everyone was focusing on the YouGov poll. Here's a graph showing how YouGov's sudden shift in polling results is out of line with the other pollsters  |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Sept 7, 2014 8:19:35 GMT
It's 45 days now for redundancy consultation. Tory Bastards Jo Swinson was the minister responsible actually. The usual complaint from workers in this situation is "uncertainty", so surely reducing uncertainty is a good thing? (I have been made redundant twice in my career, and "dodged the bullet" twice, too.) |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2014 12:12:44 GMT
Jo Swinson was the minister responsible actually. The usual complaint from workers in this situation is "uncertainty", so surely reducing uncertainty is a good thing? (I have been made redundant twice in my career, and "dodged the bullet" twice, too.) Ah, East Dunbartonshire, Middle England with shorbread and Crabbies Green Ginger. |
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Post by baloo on Sept 7, 2014 13:00:40 GMT
Jo Swinson was the minister responsible actually. The usual complaint from workers in this situation is "uncertainty", so surely reducing uncertainty is a good thing? (I have been made redundant twice in my career, and "dodged the bullet" twice, too.) Most left wingers don't let facts get in the way of hating us, so pray feel free to continue. |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Sept 7, 2014 13:11:22 GMT
Jo Swinson was the minister responsible actually. The usual complaint from workers in this situation is "uncertainty", so surely reducing uncertainty is a good thing? (I have been made redundant twice in my career, and "dodged the bullet" twice, too.) Ah, East Dunbartonshire, Middle England with shorbread and Crabbies Green Ginger. You have obviously never visited Bishopbriggs. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2014 13:43:32 GMT
Ah, East Dunbartonshire, Middle England with shorbread and Crabbies Green Ginger. You have obviously never visited Bishopbriggs. More of a Bearsden Milngavie sort of guy. |
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Tony Otim
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Post by Tony Otim on Sept 7, 2014 13:58:18 GMT
Would give: SNP 54 Lab 45 Con 18 LD 3 Grn 9 UKIP would be touch and for a seat or two. However 3% for the SSP?  No wonder the referendum question stands out  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2014 15:51:26 GMT
Will Cameron have to resign if he presides over the dissolution of the United Kingdom? I suggest that he should I also suggest that he won't if it happens Definitely not. Labour de facto ran the campaign. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2014 16:27:32 GMT
Will Cameron have to resign if he presides over the dissolution of the United Kingdom? I suggest that he should I also suggest that he won't if it happens Definitely not. Labour de facto ran the campaign. There was no campaign |
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Post by Devonian on Sept 7, 2014 18:39:12 GMT
People on social media speculating about the most recent YouGov poll showing a sudden unexpected shift to Yes have noted these recent comments by a Mr R Murdoch, owner of the Sunday Times
Scottish Independence would indeed not only be bad news for Cameron and Miliband, it would of course also mean the breaking off of big chunk of the BBC.
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Tony Otim
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Post by Tony Otim on Sept 7, 2014 19:22:15 GMT
An interesting question is what impact this poll will have. I see 3 options -
(1) It's not backed up by other polls, it's seen as a blip and impact is limited.
(2) It gives the Yes camp momentum and helps them over the finish line.
(3) It scares the bejesus out of soft Yes voters who don't really want independance, but are pissed off with BT, want to add pressure for Devo-Max, etc... and actually leads to a swing back to No.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2014 19:36:59 GMT
An interesting question is what impact this poll will have. I see 3 options - (1) It's not backed up by other polls, it's seen as a blip and impact is limited. (2) It gives the Yes camp momentum and helps them over the finish line. (3) It scares the bejesus out of soft Yes voters who don't really want independance, but are pissed off with BT, want to add pressure for Devo-Max, etc... and actually leads to a swing back to No. I went out campaigning for Yes today, first time in two years and dragged along an old school friend. His first time campaigning *sniff* like a proud parent |
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Post by Devonian on Sept 7, 2014 19:53:46 GMT
An interesting question is what impact this poll will have. I see 3 options - (1) It's not backed up by other polls, it's seen as a blip and impact is limited. (2) It gives the Yes camp momentum and helps them over the finish line. (3) It scares the bejesus out of soft Yes voters who don't really want independance, but are pissed off with BT, want to add pressure for Devo-Max, etc... and actually leads to a swing back to No. I'm wondering if it might also give a boost to Yes and No for the reasons you give and push up the turnout on both sides. As for whether its a blip the TNS poll is due out Wednesday and Survation on Thursday so we should see by then. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 0:49:38 GMT
Mike Smithson of the other place has highlighted the weighting of the YouGov figures. The Unweighted sample gives NO a substantial cushion.
We shall see midweek.
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No wonder the referendum question stands out 