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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2014 11:17:39 GMT
TRMS. Survation have done one with YES at 38%. The former poll is certainty to vote.
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Post by johnr on Feb 20, 2014 14:31:56 GMT
However a methodology change means its not directly comparable to their previous ones - as they point out.
Doesnt stop the SNP comparing it directly to the previous one.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2014 15:03:01 GMT
Survation Scottish Westminster voting intention: SNP: 38%, Lab: 33%, Con: 17%, Lib Dem: 6% Holyrood constituency: SNP 44%, Lab 31%, Con: 13%, Lib Dem 6%, UKIP 3% Holyrood regional: SNP 41%, Lab 28.5%, Con: 13%, Lib Dem 8%, Green 3%, UKIP 3%  |
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Post by The Bishop on Feb 20, 2014 15:18:05 GMT
Somewhat strange figures, them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2014 15:22:02 GMT
Somewhat strange figures, them. The Westminster polling is unusual, but probaby to do with Eck very much centre stage - quite unlike during an actual Westminster campaign. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2014 17:24:26 GMT
Meh. Post 'nasty George you're bullying us' innit? Coz the blustery one is standing up for Scotland against the evil English and all the rest of that braveheart bullshit.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2014 17:37:22 GMT
Those Survation figures do look rather fishy to me, as they show a very different picture from the ballot box in recent elections. Do they use an internet panel? I wonder if they have experienced Cybernat infiltration, like Panelbase? The last Survation poll was out in January and in the constituency had SNP 38% v Lab 36%. I'm not sure what could have engendered such a swing in the past 3 weeks.. I guess Salmond gets a wee boost from the whole pound curmudgeon? The reality is probably that the SNP is not 2% or 13% ahead, but in between. Average them and you get 7-8% which seems more probable. |
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Post by marksenior on Feb 20, 2014 18:03:43 GMT
In big letters on the Survation website , it says Results are NOT comparable with previous poll of February 2nd due to methodology change as discussed below . They estimate that 2/3rds of the change in the referendum Yes/No vote is down to the change in methodology .
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Post by johnr on Feb 21, 2014 9:12:25 GMT
Meh. Post 'nasty George you're bullying us' innit? Coz the blustery one is standing up for Scotland against the evil English and all the rest of that braveheart bullshit. Yes, my feeling is that it is very much the knee jerk reaction to it. The media was wall-to-wall with SNP politicians callling it bullying, preposterous, ridiculous, a lie, a bluff etc. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2014 10:03:10 GMT
You would hope for some calm reflection, and to actually accept that the idea is a non starter.
I get the impression that some elements in the snips have the impression that the rest of the UK would be crawling, possibly pleading to save the union. The general shrug is perhaps a surprise to some..
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2014 14:05:00 GMT
I get the impression that some elements in the snips have the impression that the rest of the UK would be crawling, possibly pleading to save the union. The general shrug is perhaps a surprise to some.. It's probably true that the general assumption in pro-independence circles has been that the UK Government want the Union to continue and would therefore hope to retain as many of its trappings as possible in the event of Scottish independence. |
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Feb 21, 2014 21:31:52 GMT
I get the impression that some elements in the snips have the impression that the rest of the UK would be crawling, possibly pleading to save the union. The general shrug is perhaps a surprise to some.. It's probably true that the general assumption in pro-independence circles has been that the UK Government want the Union to continue and would therefore hope to retain as many of its trappings as possible in the event of Scottish independence. That relies upon the assumption that the UK government are only interested in maintaining the union for economic reasons. Given that many pro-independence supporters want independence for reasons entirely divorced from economics, this would seem to me to be a failure of empathy. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2014 23:16:36 GMT
I get the impression that some elements in the snips have the impression that the rest of the UK would be crawling, possibly pleading to save the union. The general shrug is perhaps a surprise to some.. It's probably true that the general assumption in pro-independence circles has been that the UK Government want the Union to continue and would therefore hope to retain as many of its trappings as possible in the event of Scottish independence. You missed my point. |
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Post by marksenior on Mar 3, 2014 14:18:33 GMT
Ipsos Mori/STV Yes 32 No 57 DK/WNV 11
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 3, 2014 16:24:03 GMT
What was their last poll, for comparison?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Mar 3, 2014 16:37:14 GMT
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Post by kevin on Mar 3, 2014 16:37:46 GMT
The Ipsos MORI December poll was Yes 34 No 57 DK/WNV 9
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Post by johnr on Mar 4, 2014 9:21:44 GMT
So, a drop of 2 points for Yes, No vote steady.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2014 18:25:55 GMT
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Post by Tony Otim on Mar 4, 2014 18:31:28 GMT
The good news for Labour is that represents a 2% swing to them since 2011. The bad news is that they're down 3% on 2011 which can't be good news. The Tory figure seems a touch high...
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