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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 6:48:28 GMT
If the Chloe Smith statement is accurate, and next year the Seventh (Eighth?) Periodic Review is started on the basis of 650 seats, a swathe of proposed constituencies under the 600 MPs plan will never be suggested again, let alone recreated. I've been looking at some of those suggestions which may only exist in the farthest reaches of the Internet archive and the Vote UK collective memory. Such delights as:
*North Lancashire (taking in the Bowland, Wyre, Lunesdale, and rural Preston)
*Goole, Howden and Axholme *South Calderdale and Queensbury *Halifax and North Calderdale
*Finchley and Enfield Southgate
*De Clwyd a Gogledd Maldwyn *Brecon, Radnor and Montgomery
I'm sure there are others we could suggest. It feels odd knowing that we've gone through two abandoned reviews, with all the associated maps, names, designations, all for pretty much nowt.
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Post by loderingo on Apr 23, 2020 7:18:04 GMT
Mersey Banks!
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Post by bjornhattan on Apr 23, 2020 7:34:57 GMT
West Durham and Teesdale is a classic - combining a ward which is predominantly rural Yorkshire with Tyneside suburbs.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 7:57:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 11:28:04 GMT
Dursley, Thornbury & Yate, thank God
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Post by therealriga on Apr 23, 2020 13:54:53 GMT
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Post by greenhert on Apr 23, 2020 14:07:39 GMT
Where to begin?
Bodmin & St Austell, Truro & Newquay, Faversham & Canterbury, Finsbury Park & Stoke Newington etc.
I am thankful that a 650 seat review will generally avoid messes like these.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 14:15:22 GMT
Barnsley East, Penistone West and Stocksbridge
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Post by J.G.Harston on Apr 23, 2020 14:40:05 GMT
Where to begin? Bodmin & St Austell, Truro & Newquay, Faversham & Canterbury, Finsbury Park & Stoke Newington etc. I am thankful that a 650 seat review will generally avoid messes like these. Sheffield Dore & Dodworth.
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Apr 23, 2020 15:42:25 GMT
Where to begin? Bodmin & St Austell, Truro & Newquay, Faversham & Canterbury, Finsbury Park & Stoke Newington etc. I am thankful that a 650 seat review will generally avoid messes like these. It will just create entirely new messes, thanks to the 5% tolerance. If anything, they will be messier, as 5% of 68,982 is a smaller number in absolute terms than 5% of 74,769.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 16:10:25 GMT
Highland Central? If only there was a city, a historic county with similar boundaries to the proposed constituency or a similar constituency which existed until 1983 it could have been named after.
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Post by jamie on Apr 23, 2020 16:16:43 GMT
Berwick and Ashington will presumably go, although Christ knows what we’ll get instead in Northumberland.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 16:58:28 GMT
Highland Central? If only there was a city, a historic county with similar boundaries to the proposed constituency or a similar constituency which existed until 1983 it could have been named after. I had no idea that the BCS would ever entertain such generic names. I doubt they will again.
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Post by jacoblamsden on Apr 23, 2020 18:21:38 GMT
Where to begin? Bodmin & St Austell, Truro & Newquay, Faversham & Canterbury, Finsbury Park & Stoke Newington etc. I am thankful that a 650 seat review will generally avoid messes like these. What's wrong with Faversham and Canterbury? It is a more coherent seat than Faversham and Mid Kent which is a bit of a mess as almost all 'Mid....' constituencies are - and it meant that Whitstable and Herne Bay could be united in one constituency - albeit the terribly named Kent North Coastal.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 18:25:04 GMT
Where to begin? Bodmin & St Austell, Truro & Newquay, Faversham & Canterbury, Finsbury Park & Stoke Newington etc. I am thankful that a 650 seat review will generally avoid messes like these. Sheffield Dore & Dodworth. that's a thing
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Post by yellowperil on Apr 23, 2020 18:25:46 GMT
Where to begin? Bodmin & St Austell, Truro & Newquay, Faversham & Canterbury, Finsbury Park & Stoke Newington etc. I am thankful that a 650 seat review will generally avoid messes like these. What's wrong with Faversham and Canterbury? It is a more coherent seat than Faversham and Mid Kent which is a bit of a mess as almost all 'Mid....' constituencies are - and it meant that Whitstable and Herne Bay could be united in one constituency - albeit the terribly named Kent North Coastal. Interesting.. I had been intending to post a comment in almost identical terms when I got round to it!
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Post by yellowperil on Apr 23, 2020 18:29:00 GMT
Where to begin? Bodmin & St Austell, Truro & Newquay, Faversham & Canterbury, Finsbury Park & Stoke Newington etc. I am thankful that a 650 seat review will generally avoid messes like these. It will just create entirely new messes, thanks to the 5% tolerance. If anything, they will be messier, as 5% of 68,982 is a smaller number in absolute terms than 5% of 74,769. Gosh, just when did you come up with this stunning new mathematical insight
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Post by bsjmcr on Apr 23, 2020 18:41:13 GMT
Prestwich and Middleton. Okay, so not entirely a new creation, but a recreation, but that doesn't make it right. The stark demographic difference between the two towns hasn't changed since its 1983 abolition, and Heaton Park still stands in its way, to give it a 'butterfly' shape with no viable roads between the two towns keeping within the constituency! What might unite them is that they are probably both now leaning Conservative, for very different reasons (anti-semitism in the case of Prestwich of course), with the bulk of the Tory vote probably coming from Middleton ironically (UKIP almost took it in a by-election along with Heywood), when it was vice versa in the 70's.
Stockport West and Cheadle - no doubt the people of Cheadle would have further resented their continued lumping into Stockport being rubbed into their faces.
Marple and Hyde - rolls of the tongue nicely, like the name of a detective novel, but it may not be to be...
Ashton-under-Lyne and Stalybridge. So it only contains two places but ends up with a pretty long name to rival some of the Scottish creations...
What is good that there will be less places 'left hanging' - e.g. Wythenshawe and Sale East would still exist, yet 'Sale West' vanishes into thin air as Altrincham gets paired with Knutford. I'm sure there are more examples of this nonsense.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 18:45:44 GMT
Sheffield Dore & Dodworth. that's a thing Yes but not with that name. It was their new version of Hallam.
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Post by Defenestrated Fipplebox on Apr 23, 2020 18:49:34 GMT
that's a thing Yes but not with that name. It was their new version of Hallam.
I always wanted Hallam to stretch a bit into Derbyshire so we could have the constituency of Hope Hallam and Hathersage.
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