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Post by Merseymike on Jun 4, 2020 15:34:08 GMT
I think there would certainly be some requests to transfer out of Red Statedom from places like Atlanta and Austin!
Can you think of any places which would want to go the other way?
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Post by bjornhattan on Jun 4, 2020 16:01:08 GMT
I think there would certainly be some requests to transfer out of Red Statedom from places like Atlanta and Austin! Can you think of any places which would want to go the other way? Lots - eastern Washington and Oregon, the Upper Pensinsula of Michigan (though in 2004 that was much less Republican), parts of upstate New York, the Appalachian bits of Virginia and Pennsylvania, and many other areas. Most states are rather heterogeneous. |
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 4, 2020 16:14:18 GMT
I think there would certainly be some requests to transfer out of Red Statedom from places like Atlanta and Austin! Can you think of any places which would want to go the other way? Lots - eastern Washington and Oregon, the Upper Pensinsula of Michigan (though in 2004 that was much less Republican), parts of upstate New York, the Appalachian bits of Virginia and Pennsylvania, and many other areas. Most states are rather heterogeneous. Tends to be the smaller towns in the blue states then - which is really no surprise. I don't think that upstate New York would want to join them though - too prosperous and East Coast fiscal Republican. Really, we are talking rednecks, yes? |
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Post by myth11 on Jun 4, 2020 16:47:56 GMT
Any time the idea of the US breaking up is mooted, I always recall this meme from around the time of the Iraq War. Dear Red States:
We've decided we're leaving. We intend to form our own country, and we're taking the other Blue States with us.
In case you aren't aware, that includes Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and all of the Northeast. We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and especially to the people of the new country of New California.
To sum up briefly:
You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states. We get stem cell research and the best beaches.
We get Elliot Spitzer. You get Ken Lay.
We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Dollywood.
We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom.
We get Harvard. You get Ole' Miss.
We get 85 percent of America's venture capital and entrepreneurs. You get Alabama.
We get two-thirds of the tax revenue. You get to make the red states pay their fair share.
Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition's, we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms.
Please be aware that Nuevo California will be pro-choice and anti-war, and we're going to want all our citizens back from Iraq at once. If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. They have kids they're apparently willing to send to their deaths for no purpose, and they don't care if you don't show pictures of their children's caskets coming home. We do wish you success in Iraq, and hope that the WMDs turn up, but we're not willing to spend our resources in Bush's Quagmire.
With the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80 percent of the country's fresh water, more than 90 percent of the pineapple and lettuce, 92 percent of the nation's fresh fruit, 95 percent of America's quality wines (you can serve French wines at state dinners) 90 percent of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools, plus Stanford, Cal Tech, MIT, and University of California.
With the Red States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with 88 percent of all obese Americans (and their projected health care costs), 92 percent of all U.S. mosquitoes, nearly 100 percent of the tornadoes, 90 percent of the hurricanes, 99 percent of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100 percent of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia.
We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.
Additionally, 38 percent of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, 62 percent believe life is sacred unless we're discussing the death penalty or gun laws, 44 percent say that evolution is only a theory, 53 percent that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61 percent of you crazy bastards believe you are people with higher morals than we lefties.
By the way, we're taking the good pot, too. You can have that dirt weed they grow in Mexico.
Peace out,
CaliforniaCalifornia imports vasts amounts of water and electricity from at the time of the meme red Arizona. |
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Post by Strontium Dog on Jun 4, 2020 16:51:53 GMT
Yeah, if only they had the good fortune to border the largest body of water in the world.
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Post by myth11 on Jun 4, 2020 17:40:16 GMT
Yeah, if only they had the good fortune to border the largest body of water in the world. Desalination on that scale would be costly and require vast amounts of electricity plus what to do with the waste. |
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Post by thisguy on Jun 4, 2020 20:36:16 GMT
I think there would certainly be some requests to transfer out of Red Statedom from places like Atlanta and Austin! Can you think of any places which would want to go the other way? Surely most urban areas are blue (as you seem to be pointing at here) and most rural areas are Red so would want to go the other way. Which makes splitting up the US in a way that makes everyone happy very difficult in practice. The divide seems more rural/urban than state/state. The Republicans still won around 50 counties in California at the last presidential election. Clinton only won 9 out of 87 counties in still (just about) blue Minnesota. Similarly, Louisville and Jackson in red Kentucky and Mississipi wouldn't be thrilled about joining a Red Statedom. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 4, 2020 21:27:23 GMT
Yeah, if only they had the good fortune to border the largest body of water in the world. Desalination on that scale would be costly and require vast amounts of electricity plus what to do with the waste. Well they have plenty of sun and can dump the waste straight back in the sea from whence it came. No problem. |
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Post by Richard Allen on Jun 4, 2020 23:52:11 GMT
Lots - eastern Washington and Oregon, the Upper Pensinsula of Michigan (though in 2004 that was much less Republican), parts of upstate New York, the Appalachian bits of Virginia and Pennsylvania, and many other areas. Most states are rather heterogeneous. Tends to be the smaller towns in the blue states then - which is really no surprise. I don't think that upstate New York would want to join them though - too prosperous and East Coast fiscal Republican. Really, we are talking rednecks, yes? Upstate New York is one of the least prosperous parts of the North East. |
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 5, 2020 6:36:36 GMT
Tends to be the smaller towns in the blue states then - which is really no surprise. I don't think that upstate New York would want to join them though - too prosperous and East Coast fiscal Republican. Really, we are talking rednecks, yes? Upstate New York is one of the least prosperous parts of the North East. I suppose the part I visited wasn't entirely representative - from what I've looked up they appear to be the Democratic counties. |
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Jun 5, 2020 9:30:10 GMT
Upstate New York is one of the least prosperous parts of the North East. I suppose the part I visited wasn't entirely representative - from what I've looked up they appear to be the Democratic counties. So you went to Tompkins County? |
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 5, 2020 9:35:21 GMT
I suppose the part I visited wasn't entirely representative - from what I've looked up they appear to be the Democratic counties. So you went to Tompkins County? Yes plus Onudaga and Albany counties and they are all Democratic and certainly appeared prosperous. I haven't been to the more rural far north |
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Post by bjornhattan on Jun 5, 2020 9:40:31 GMT
So you went to Tompkins County? Yes plus Onudaga and Albany counties and they are all Democratic and certainly appeared prosperous. I haven't been to the more rural far north I was more thinking about the areas around Buffalo and Rochester, which aren't particularly prosperous and are more like the Pittsburgh area than the rest of New York. |
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 5, 2020 10:12:33 GMT
They are two areas I haven't been to. But are they Republican politically?
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Post by bjornhattan on Jun 5, 2020 10:17:38 GMT
They are two areas I haven't been to. But are they Republican politically? Overall upstate New York was almost exactly tied in 2004 (Kerry 1,553,246, Bush 1,551,971). It has swung to the Republicans think then - Trump even came close in Erie County, which is almost entirely urban. |
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 5, 2020 10:18:39 GMT
They are two areas I haven't been to. But are they Republican politically? Overall upstate New York was almost exactly tied in 2004 (Kerry 1,553,246, Bush 1,551,971). It has swung to the Republicans think then - Trump even came close in Erie County, which is almost entirely urban. It looks as if there are some very Republican areas to balance out the Democratic ones |
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Jun 5, 2020 11:13:54 GMT
So you went to Tompkins County? Yes plus Onudaga and Albany counties and they are all Democratic and certainly appeared prosperous. I haven't been to the more rural far north Onondaga County is very finely balanced – the Presidential Election has gone to the Democrats since 1992, but for things like the County Executive, the Republican candidate usually wins, albeit not spectacularly. |
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