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Post by Admin Twaddleford on Apr 18, 2020 11:21:30 GMT
5 electoral college votes
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Post by timrollpickering on Apr 18, 2020 18:54:15 GMT
Senator Joe Manchin is endorsing Biden but I doubt that will suddenly return the state to the days when it was a pretty reliable Democrat banker.
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Post by greenhert on Apr 18, 2020 20:22:57 GMT
West Virginia is a near-perfect state for Donald Trump at the moment, with all its old coal-mining history and a general feeling of being left behind by New England and co.
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Post by Lord Twaddleford (dormant) on Apr 18, 2020 20:25:35 GMT
Senator Joe Manchin is endorsing Biden but I doubt that will suddenly return the state to the days when it was a pretty reliable Democrat banker. I think the irony behind West Virginia's partisan flip may be down to all the federal pork brought into the state by its former long-term senator, Robert Byrd, what with most of said pork being federal law enforcement and military projects (sectors that tend to be filled with Republican voters).
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Post by Richard Allen on Apr 19, 2020 9:27:36 GMT
Senator Joe Manchin is endorsing Biden but I doubt that will suddenly return the state to the days when it was a pretty reliable Democrat banker. I think the irony behind West Virginia's partisan flip may be down to all the federal pork brought into the state by its former long-term senator, Robert Byrd, what with most of said pork being federal law enforcement and military projects (sectors that tend to be filled with Republican voters). That has helped the process but the underlying cultural trends are far more important.
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Post by pragmaticidealist on Apr 19, 2020 18:26:30 GMT
It's quite ironically amusing that Al Gore was the last Democratic nominee to be competitive here.
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Post by curiousliberal on Apr 19, 2020 18:32:18 GMT
It's quite ironically amusing that Al Gore was the last Democratic nominee to be competitive here. Al Gore's populist rhetoric (which he struggled with due to his own incumbency as VP) probably cost him less here than in other places.
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Post by pragmaticidealist on Apr 19, 2020 18:50:37 GMT
It's quite ironically amusing that Al Gore was the last Democratic nominee to be competitive here. Al Gore's populist rhetoric (which he struggled with due to his own incumbency as VP) probably cost him less here than in other places. Gore was, I believe, the candidate of choice of Fred Phelps in the former's first presidential run.
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Post by thinwhiteduke on Jun 10, 2020 13:31:11 GMT
Just out of curiosity.. is this the first time the votes cast in the republican primary has exceeded the votes cast in the Dem Primary..?
GOP - 201,175. Dem - 178,777.
Taking into account, the Dems historically have always maintained a large registration advantage in WV.
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Post by jamie on Jun 10, 2020 14:28:12 GMT
They still have a registration advantage, but severely diminished from the past. There was also a significant undervote for the presidential ballot compared to other lines, suggesting many registered Democrats didn’t even want to cast a protest vote this time (makes sense with Bernie’s post-2016 collapse among these sorts of primary voters and West Virginia having a genuinely DINO electorate).
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Post by thinwhiteduke on Jun 10, 2020 14:42:29 GMT
Just out of curiosity.. is this the first time the votes cast in the republican primary has exceeded the votes cast in the Dem Primary..? Turns out it is a first..
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Post by Richard Allen on Jun 10, 2020 15:14:43 GMT
They still have a registration advantage, but severely diminished from the past. There was also a significant undervote for the presidential ballot compared to other lines, suggesting many registered Democrats didn’t even want to cast a protest vote this time (makes sense with Bernie’s post-2016 collapse among these sorts of primary voters and West Virginia having a genuinely DINO electorate). I note that a West Virginia resident named David Lee Rice filed to run here in the Democratic primary and came third with 15,023 votes (8.4%). He hasn't filed any campaign finance reports with the FEC so presumably hasn't raised or spent any money and I can't find any evidence of a campaign.
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Post by jamie on Jun 11, 2020 17:08:59 GMT
I note that a West Virginia resident named David Lee Rice filed to run here in the Democratic primary and came third with 15,023 votes (8.4%). He hasn't filed any campaign finance reports with the FEC so presumably hasn't raised or spent any money and I can't find any evidence of a campaign. The West Virginia primary ballot paper lists your address which helps voters identify who to protest vote for (and also leads to even more localised parochialism).
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Post by thirdchill on Jun 21, 2020 10:12:11 GMT
The only thing of interest in the election here is whether the Republicans manage a clean sweep of all the counties again, like they did last time and 2012.
At the moment it seems likely, though Monongalia county (which includes West Virginia university) and Jefferson county (at the far east side of the state and is an exurban county of Washington DC) are the two counties most likely to switch if there is a significant dip in the Republican vote.
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Post by jamie on Jun 21, 2020 10:33:06 GMT
At the moment it seems likely, though Monongalia county (which includes West Virginia university) and Jefferson county (at the far east side of the state and is an exurban county of Washington DC) are the two counties most likely to switch if there is a significant dip in the Republican vote. It should be noted that while Jefferson county is exurban DC, it nonetheless saw Trump improve by 11% on Romney’s margin in 2016 so isn’t exactly trending Democrat. It rather underlines the psephological differences between suburban and exurban areas in American politics, despite the inability of most election analysts to move beyond calling just about everywhere outside the city centre or sticks ‘suburban’.
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Post by conservativeestimate on Oct 7, 2020 21:33:33 GMT
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Post by CatholicLeft on Oct 7, 2020 22:02:16 GMT
That is a 12% swing against Trump.I know nothing of these pollsters, but it is a disastrous poll for the Trump campaign.
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Post by MacShimidh on Oct 7, 2020 22:03:50 GMT
That is a 12% swing against Trump.I know nothing of these pollsters, but it is a disastrous poll for the Trump campaign. Really looking awful for him if even the folk here are turning against him in such a big way.
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Post by nelson on Oct 13, 2020 23:08:32 GMT
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Post by Rural Radical on Oct 14, 2020 18:24:46 GMT
Biden should win a few counties if thus us anywhere near accurate
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