Tatton

[owainsutton]

Jun 1, 2020 12:22:17 GMT gwynthegriff said:

Jun 1, 2020 9:58:23 GMT owainsutton said:

While Liverpool Exchange took its name from the railway station, I'm not sure about Manchester Exchange. Was it named after the Royal Exchange, the railway station, or was a geographic area known by that name by the time the constituency was created?

Barnard Castle would be cheating, of course.

Westminster Abbey.

Liverpool Exchange station was presumably named after the adjacent stock exchange which predated the station?

Oh, possibly. I mistakenly thought the station was given that name because of being joint ownership, but on checking, the original companies managed to give it two different names! Bradford Exchange (now replaced by Interchange) was (I think) named due to joint ownership, whereas Manchester Exchange was solely a LNWR matter.

[Chris from Brum]

Jun 1, 2020 14:04:07 GMT owainsutton said:

Jun 1, 2020 12:22:17 GMT gwynthegriff said:

Liverpool Exchange station was presumably named after the adjacent stock exchange which predated the station?

Oh, possibly. I mistakenly thought the station was given that name because of being joint ownership, but on checking, the original companies managed to give it two different names! Bradford Exchange (now replaced by Interchange) was (I think) named due to joint ownership, whereas Manchester Exchange was solely a LNWR matter.

And Wrexham Exchange (now part of General)?

[gwynthegriff]

Jun 1, 2020 15:23:59 GMT Chris from Brum said:

Jun 1, 2020 14:04:07 GMT owainsutton said:

Oh, possibly. I mistakenly thought the station was given that name because of being joint ownership, but on checking, the original companies managed to give it two different names! Bradford Exchange (now replaced by Interchange) was (I think) named due to joint ownership, whereas Manchester Exchange was solely a LNWR matter.

And Wrexham Exchange (now part of General)?

Delighted though I am to see any thread drift off onto subjects ferroequinological I don't think there was ever a Wrexham Exchange constituency.

Nor, indeed, a Wrexham stock exchange.



I have always assumed Wrexham Exchange was so named because it offered an exchange between the GWR services and those provided by the GCR/ LNER/ WM&CQ.

[finsobruce]

Jun 1, 2020 12:58:19 GMT Chris from Brum said:

Jun 1, 2020 11:49:08 GMT @conservativeestimate said:

The old St George's, Hanover Square seat sounds like it was named after a church.

The long-defunct Birmingham All Saints too.

which only ever had three MPs:

Denis Howell (1955-59)

John Hollingworth (1959-64)

Brian Walden (1964-74)

The two Labour MPs are quite famous, don't really know anything about the Tory MP sandwiched between them.

[owainsutton]

Jun 1, 2020 15:23:59 GMT Chris from Brum said:

Jun 1, 2020 14:04:07 GMT owainsutton said:

Oh, possibly. I mistakenly thought the station was given that name because of being joint ownership, but on checking, the original companies managed to give it two different names! Bradford Exchange (now replaced by Interchange) was (I think) named due to joint ownership, whereas Manchester Exchange was solely a LNWR matter.

And Wrexham Exchange (now part of General)?

By the looks of it, that was more to advertise it as a junction: www.disused-stations.org.uk/w/wrexham_exchange/

Aberdeen station opened as Aberdeen Joint Station, built to close up a north-south gap in the passenger network.

I don't know of any others which got named for similar reasons, but I bet there were a few. (Unlike in America, which had loads of Union stations

[Chris from Brum]

Jun 1, 2020 15:50:42 GMT finsobruce said:

Jun 1, 2020 12:58:19 GMT Chris from Brum said:

The long-defunct Birmingham All Saints too.

which only ever had three MPs:

Denis Howell (1955-59)

John Hollingworth (1959-64)

Brian Walden (1964-74)

The two Labour MPs are quite famous, don't really know anything about the Tory MP sandwiched between them.

Nor me, but when I lived in Harborne, one of my Tory councillors was Peter Hollingworth, possibly a relation? 

Walden's son Phil was a contemporary of mine at Queen's, Oxford.

[andrewp]

Jun 1, 2020 16:02:22 GMT Chris from Brum said:

Jun 1, 2020 15:50:42 GMT finsobruce said:

which only ever had three MPs:

Denis Howell (1955-59)

John Hollingworth (1959-64)

Brian Walden (1964-74)

The two Labour MPs are quite famous, don't really know anything about the Tory MP sandwiched between them.

Nor me, but when I lived in Harborne, one of my Tory councillors was Peter Hollingworth, possibly a relation? 

Walden's son Phil was a contemporary of mine at Queen's, Oxford.

The Hollingworths were brothers. Peter Hollingworth was councillor for Harborne for 51 years (1960-2011)

[🏴‍☠️ Neath West 🏴‍☠️]

Apr 29, 2020 0:10:08 GMT LDCaerdydd said:

Tatton along with Brighton Pavillion are the only two constituencies named after a building.

Isn't Wentworth (and Dearne) named after Mrs Rees-Mogg's ancestors' place?

[warofdreams]

Jun 1, 2020 16:35:28 GMT 🏴‍☠️ Neath West 🏴‍☠️ said:

Apr 29, 2020 0:10:08 GMT LDCaerdydd said:

Tatton along with Brighton Pavillion are the only two constituencies named after a building.

Isn't Wentworth (and Dearne) named after Mrs Rees-Mogg's ancestors' place?

Wentworth is the village, although the presence of Wentworth Woodhouse is clearly why the small village was chosen as the name of the constituency.

[finsobruce]

Jun 1, 2020 17:11:28 GMT @barnabymarder said:

Jun 1, 2020 16:02:22 GMT Chris from Brum said:

Nor me, but when I lived in Harborne, one of my Tory councillors was Peter Hollingworth, possibly a relation? 

Walden's son Phil was a contemporary of mine at Queen's, Oxford.

I can still impersonate Mr Walden quite well.

"Welcome to Weekend World".

[bsjmcr]

Handforth has certainly made the news today. Former MP Osborne has commented on the Parish Council affair, but current MP Mcvey has been silent so far...

[Davıd Boothroyd]

Handforth must be pretty solidly Tory in general elections but Barry Burkhill (one of the disruptive members) is a longstanding Cheshire East councillor elected as a Handforth Ratepayers Independent. The HRI seem to have taken a large part of the Tory vote locally.

[where2travel]

Feb 5, 2021 22:59:15 GMT Davıd Boothroyd said:

Handforth must be pretty solidly Tory in general elections but Barry Burkhill (one of the disruptive members) is a longstanding Cheshire East councillor elected as a Handforth Ratepayers Independent. The HRI seem to have taken a large part of the Tory vote locally.

Yes I think Handforth will be Tory in GEs (historically certainly not as solidy as other parts of Tatton though, it included the old Colshaw Farm Estate).

There has been a very long history of the HRIs in Handforth, similar to neighbouring Heald Green Independent Ratepayers (although on the other side of the border in Stockport). In Local Elections these independents seem to take votes across the board.

[Robert Waller]

2011 Census

Age 65+ 20.5% 118/650
Owner-occupied 75.3% 61/650
Private rented 11.6% 485/650
Social rented 11.3% 530/650
White 96.5% 310/650
Black 0.4% 407/650
Asian 2.4% 335/650
Managerial & professional 43.4%
Routine & Semi-routine 18.1%
Managers, directors & senior officials 17.3% 9/650
Degree level 37.4% 73/650
No qualifications 17.6% 550/650
Students 6.0% 486/650



2021 Census

Owner occupied 74.4% 67/573
Private rented 14.6% 456/573
Social rented 11.0% 474/573
White 92.6%
Black 0.6%
Asian 3.6%
Managerial & professional 44.6% 42/573
Routine & Semi-routine 16.7% 494/573
Degree level 43.3% 78/573
No qualifications 13.3% 506/573






General Election 2019: Tatton

Party Candidate Votes % ±%

Conservative Esther McVey 28,277 57.7 –0.9
Labour James Weinberg 10,890 22.2 –6.3
Liberal Democrats Jonathan Smith 7,712 15.7 +6.7
Green Nigel Hennerley 2,088 4.3 +2.2

C Majority 17,387 35.5 +5.4

Turnout 48,967 70.9 –1.5

Conservative hold

Swing 2.7 Lab to C

[john07]

Jun 1, 2020 9:35:44 GMT owainsutton said:

Apr 29, 2020 1:35:51 GMT Devil Wincarnate said:

There were once more were there not?

I can think of Liverpool Exchange, and am now looking for others.

What about Manchester Exchange?

I can still recall knocking on doors in the 1973 bye-election for Frank Hatton.