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Post by andrew111 on Jul 30, 2022 19:57:27 GMT
I don't think voters have become more socially conservative in recent years. If anything they've become more slightly more socially liberal. It's more that Labour have become far too "woke" for their non-urban voters. I'm not suggesting that voters have become more or less socially conservative, I'm merely suggesting voters are deciding how to vote based on social issues rather than economic ones leading to changes in voting patterns. Not voting Labour because they're viewed as too "woke" is affirmation of this; people are voting due to social issues rather than economic ones. Labour have become a very different Party in my lifetime, far more than the Tories, who are mostly resolutely populist on everything. It has become hard to find any consistent difference in economic policy, starting with Blair promising to continue where the Tories left off. This is driven by demographics of course. There are no longer enough unionised working class voters to elect a Labour government, so they have to appeal to socially liberal University educated voters, in the process alienating many of their former core voters (or their children). Still, the Tory ceiling % is still much the same as it was in the 1980's, as is the Labour ceiling as seen in 2017. Meanwhile Labour have lost their reliable vote in Scotland, and since 2010 the Lib Dems have presented a bunch of seats back to the Tories.
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Post by timmullen1 on Aug 1, 2022 16:30:38 GMT
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Post by Jim Jam on Aug 4, 2022 13:33:25 GMT
Outlier at edge of MOE
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Post by mattbewilson on Aug 4, 2022 16:06:36 GMT
tbf fairly in line with yougov poll. It does look as if there is a drop in support for labour and bump in the Tories at the moment. I'm guessing now Boris is on the way out people less pissed off with the government
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Post by clyde1998 on Aug 4, 2022 16:14:33 GMT
tbf fairly in line with yougov poll. It does look as if there is a drop in support for labour and bump in the Tories at the moment. I'm guessing now Boris is on the way out people less pissed off with the government I think there's an element of 2019 Conservative voters who said they were undecided in the days before Johnson announced he'll resign moving back to the Conservatives. The recent polls seem to be moving into a range which Opinium have been showing for a while, with their reallocation of undecided voters methodology. The headline figures never include undecided voters, which can mask a lot of what's going on.
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Post by timmullen1 on Aug 4, 2022 16:40:21 GMT
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Post by bigfatron on Aug 4, 2022 17:01:00 GMT
For the first time ever I recall it looks like Wikipedia's list of opinion polls has an error - the 31st July R&W poll is down as having Lib Dems at 11% when the data above says 12%. I am computer illiterate so have no idea how to fix it...
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Post by timmullen1 on Aug 4, 2022 19:43:11 GMT
For the first time ever I recall it looks like Wikipedia's list of opinion polls has an error - the 31st July R&W poll is down as having Lib Dems at 11% when the data above says 12%. I am computer illiterate so have no idea how to fix it... FTFY
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Post by mattbewilson on Aug 4, 2022 20:29:26 GMT
For the first time ever I recall it looks like Wikipedia's list of opinion polls has an error - the 31st July R&W poll is down as having Lib Dems at 11% when the data above says 12%. I am computer illiterate so have no idea how to fix it... I used to copy and paste wiki formulas because I didn't know how to do it myself alternatively there is now a visual edit option
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Post by bigfatron on Aug 4, 2022 20:47:27 GMT
For the first time ever I recall it looks like Wikipedia's list of opinion polls has an error - the 31st July R&W poll is down as having Lib Dems at 11% when the data above says 12%. I am computer illiterate so have no idea how to fix it... I used to copy and paste wiki formulas because I didn't know how to do it myself alternatively there is now a visual edit option Knowing me, I'd end up deleting everything by accident...
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Post by mattbewilson on Aug 4, 2022 20:53:22 GMT
I used to copy and paste wiki formulas because I didn't know how to do it myself alternatively there is now a visual edit option Knowing me, I'd end up deleting everything by accident... it appears to have been amended
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Post by timmullen1 on Aug 4, 2022 20:59:08 GMT
Knowing me, I'd end up deleting everything by accident... it appears to have been amended ‘Twas I
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Post by maxque on Aug 4, 2022 22:11:06 GMT
I used to copy and paste wiki formulas because I didn't know how to do it myself alternatively there is now a visual edit option Knowing me, I'd end up deleting everything by accident... Anybody can fix it up or revert you should that happen.
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Post by The Bishop on Aug 13, 2022 10:08:58 GMT
Did they not do a Thursday poll this week?
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Post by neilm on Aug 22, 2022 17:38:07 GMT
it appears to have been amended ‘Twas I I have been looking for a chance to use that for ages.
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Post by clyde1998 on Aug 24, 2022 7:11:54 GMT
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