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Post by Admin Twaddleford on Mar 13, 2020 20:47:31 GMT
Staffordshire
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Post by notabrummie on Feb 12, 2021 20:33:51 GMT
As usual the only question is how big will the tory majority be on the council. In the District elections in 2019 Green and Indies took a few seats. Can they do the same at this level?
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Post by iain on Feb 12, 2021 23:26:24 GMT
The Tories go into this as favourites, but that really isn’t true. I think most of us suspect Labour has a better than average capacity to recover in so-called ‘red wall’ seats, especially in local elections.
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Post by European Lefty on Feb 12, 2021 23:56:58 GMT
The Tories go into this as favourites, but that really isn’t true. I think most of us suspect Labour has a better than average capacity to recover in so-called ‘red wall’ seats, especially in local elections. Although Labour's poor performances in Staffordshire predate any slide in the "Red Wall" (ugh, what a dreadful term) seats |
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Post by greenchristian on Feb 13, 2021 0:19:00 GMT
The Tories go into this as favourites, but that really isn’t true. I think most of us suspect Labour has a better than average capacity to recover in so-called ‘red wall’ seats, especially in local elections. Although Labour's poor performances in Staffordshire predate any slide in the "Red Wall" (ugh, what a dreadful term) seats Also, the main "Red Wall" seats n the county are the Stoke seats, which is a unitary authority. |
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Post by European Lefty on Feb 13, 2021 0:24:39 GMT
Although Labour's poor performances in Staffordshire predate any slide in the "Red Wall" (ugh, what a dreadful term) seats Also, the main "Red Wall" seats n the county are the Stoke seats, which is a unitary authority. Also true. The shift away from Labour in Cannock Chase, Stafford and Burton has also been more dramatic and longer-term than in most other similar areas (and quite possibly more permanent) |
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Post by AJS on Feb 13, 2021 0:29:14 GMT
The interesting thing about Staffordshire is that its mostly middle-class these days, but there arent many of the type of middle-class voters you find in big cities and university towns, except for one or two small areas in Lichfield and Stafford.
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Post by Merseymike on Feb 13, 2021 9:13:41 GMT
The interesting thing about Staffordshire is that its mostly middle-class these days, but there arent many of the type of middle-class voters you find in big cities and university towns, except for one or two small areas in Lichfield and Stafford. Definitely. It's the modern housing estate syndrome. They attract middle managers desperate to get away from what they don't like in the cities. They tend to have right wing views. The big old Victorian houses in the cities and city suburbs attract people who are also middle class but have left wing views and like about the cities what the other group dislike |
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Post by The Bishop on Feb 13, 2021 10:06:48 GMT
Also, the main "Red Wall" seats n the county are the Stoke seats, which is a unitary authority. Also true. The shift away from Labour in Cannock Chase, Stafford and Burton has also been more dramatic and longer-term than in most other similar areas (and quite possibly more permanent) Stafford is actually one of our relatively good areas now, Tamworth might be a better example. |
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Post by Merseymike on Feb 13, 2021 11:19:16 GMT
Both Cannock Chase and Tamworth are good examples of sales rep and middle manager all-white seats.
Burton has always been weaker for Labour than might have been indicated. In the past it was often linked to the influence of the brewing industry which was particularly Conservative-leaning,
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Post by conservativeestimate on Feb 16, 2021 9:13:47 GMT
Rough estimate of how the Staffordshire County Council area voted in the 2019 General Election
Conservative 276,458 (63.6%)
Labour 112,365 (25.9%)
Lib Dem 26,436 (6.1%)
Green 15,499 (3.5%)
Brexit 1,921 (0.4%)
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Post by greenchristian on Feb 16, 2021 11:07:27 GMT
Rough estimate of how the Staffordshire County Council area voted in 2019 Conservative 276,458 (63.6%) Labour 112,365 (25.9%) Lib Dem 26,436 (6.1%) Green 15,499 (3.5%) Brexit 1,921 (0.4%) Presumably those are Westminster numbers, rather then district council or European Parliament ones. |
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Post by conservativeestimate on Feb 16, 2021 11:08:30 GMT
Rough estimate of how the Staffordshire County Council area voted in 2019 Conservative 276,458 (63.6%) Labour 112,365 (25.9%) Lib Dem 26,436 (6.1%) Green 15,499 (3.5%) Brexit 1,921 (0.4%) Presumably those are Westminster numbers, rather then district council or European Parliament ones. Yep. Edited for clarity. |
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Post by peterl on Feb 21, 2021 22:04:53 GMT
Also worth remembering that a lot of Tory voters in the 2019 General were primarily voting Tory to "get Brexit done", or else because they were worried about Corbyn becoming PM, neither of which apply anymore. The 2017 county council elections would be a more reasonable point of comparison.
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Post by European Lefty on Feb 21, 2021 22:35:37 GMT
Also worth remembering that a lot of Tory voters in the 2019 General were primarily voting Tory to "get Brexit done", or else because they were worried about Corbyn becoming PM, neither of which apply anymore. The 2017 county council elections would be a more reasonable point of comparison. In Nottinghamshire, Durham, Northumberland and many of the met boroughs, yes. Not sure that's so true in Staffordshire |
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Post by greenchristian on Feb 22, 2021 13:07:38 GMT
Also worth remembering that a lot of Tory voters in the 2019 General were primarily voting Tory to "get Brexit done", or else because they were worried about Corbyn becoming PM, neither of which apply anymore. The 2017 county council elections would be a more reasonable point of comparison. In Nottinghamshire, Durham, Northumberland and many of the met boroughs, yes. Not sure that's so true in Staffordshire How are the 2017 county council elections a point of comparison for any met borough? |
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Post by European Lefty on Feb 22, 2021 13:49:48 GMT
In Nottinghamshire, Durham, Northumberland and many of the met boroughs, yes. Not sure that's so true in Staffordshire How are the 2017 county council elections a point of comparison for any met borough? Because I was very obviously replying specifically to the "Also worth remembering that a lot of Tory voters in the 2019 General were primarily voting Tory to "get Brexit done"" bit |
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Post by greenchristian on Apr 8, 2021 16:31:35 GMT
Con 6 Lab 6 UKIP 6 Grn 2 (Amington, Stonydelph)
No Description 1 (Perrycrofts)
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Post by casualobserver on Apr 8, 2021 17:47:51 GMT
Con 6 Lab 6 UKIP 6 Grn 2 (Amington, Stonydelph)
No Description 1 (Perrycrofts)
LibDems as strong as ever in Tamworth? |
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Post by greenrichard on Apr 8, 2021 19:15:27 GMT
Con 6 Lab 6 UKIP 6 Grn 2 (Amington, Stonydelph)
No Description 1 (Perrycrofts)
The 'no discription' candidate is a former Conservative Councillor I think. |
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