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Post by tonygreaves on Jan 23, 2020 11:20:49 GMT
+1 Baroness Hallett (a top Lord of Appeal) introduced today. I assume she will be non-affiliated.
Correction - she is Crossbench.
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Post by pomofaced on Jan 23, 2020 22:33:58 GMT
+1 Baroness Hallett (a top Lord of Appeal) introduced today. I assume she will be non-affiliated. Correction - she is Crossbench. What is the difference? |
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Post by greatkingrat on Jan 23, 2020 22:49:41 GMT
As a general rule, the non-affiliated peers were previously part of party groups and then resigned or been suspended for various reasons. The crossbench peers are "neutral" and haven't any public political affiliation.
Having said that, there are some exceptions, for example Lord Alton and Lord Dykes are both former MPs and both sit in the crossbench group.
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Post by neilm on Jan 26, 2020 10:55:18 GMT
Hugh Dykes is one of those 'I'd forgotten about him' figures.
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Post by heslingtonian on Jan 26, 2020 12:35:16 GMT
Hugh Dykes is one of those 'I'd forgotten about him' figures. One of those former MPs I wasn’t sure was still with us. |
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Post by tonygreaves on Jan 29, 2020 21:07:44 GMT
Just had dinner with him (or at least next to him).
The Crossbench is an organised group with a Convenor which sends out information on business etc to its members, and holds a weekly meeting. It does not issue a whip.
Non-affiliated means "on your own". Both designations span the political spectrum and there is a certain amount of unofficial "soft whipping" by the parties of X-bench and Non-A members with appropriate political positions, some of it issue by issue.
Meanwhile... Crossbencher the Earl of Listowel has been granted leave of absence for the rest of this Parliament. There are rumours that there are going to be around 30 new peers appointed, around 20 Conservative and 8 Labour. So much for cutting the size of the House.
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Post by yellowperil on Jan 29, 2020 21:31:15 GMT
Hugh Dykes is one of those 'I'd forgotten about him' figures. One of those former MPs I wasn’t sure was still with us. Well he's not with you, is he? |
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Post by johnloony on Feb 1, 2020 5:59:20 GMT
Today the following affirmed or took the oath: Chelmsford, Bp. Chadlington, L. Prescott, L. The latter looked to have recovered physically from his stroke but to be experiencing aphasia. I didn't quite know what "aphasia" meant (I think I assumed it meant lopsided or asymmetric) but now that I have watched the relevant clip I see what you mean. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Feb 6, 2020 20:51:50 GMT
The not-yet-signed in Lords are now:
Armstrong of Ilminster, L. (XB)
Carter of Haslemere, L. (XB) - Not yet introduced
Christopher, L. (Lab)
Clarke of Stone-cum-Ebony, L. (XB)
Cope of Berkeley, L. (C)
Denham, L. (C)
Ely, Bp.
Elystan-Morgan, L. (XB)
Falconer of Thoroton, L. (Lab)
Feldman of Elstree, L. (C)
Graham of Edmonton, L. (Lab)
Hanningfield, L. (Non-afl)
Harris of Richmond, B. (L Dem)
Harrison, L. (Lab)
Haskins, L. (XB)
Howarth of Breckland, B. (XB)
Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lab)
Jones of Birmingham, L. (XB)
Lawson of Blaby, L. (C)
Lingfield, L. (C)
Morgan of Drefelin, L. (XB)
Norfolk, D. (Non-afl)
O'Neill of Bengarve, B. (XB)
Rogers of Riverside, L. (Lab)
Rooker, L. (Lab)
Sacks, L. (XB)
Selsdon, L. (C)
Smith of Leigh, L. (Lab)
Stoneham of Droxford, L. (L Dem)
Sugar, L. (XB)
Tomlinson, L. (Lab)
Williams of Oystermouth, L. (XB)
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Post by tonygreaves on Feb 6, 2020 23:01:41 GMT
Bness (Angie) Harris of Richmond is recovering from an operation.
Lord (Ben) Stoneham of Droxford is the LD chief Whip and has certainly signed in.
The Duke of Norfolk is the Earl Marshal of England and one of the two holders of genuinely hereditary positions in the House. Doesn't come except when he has to do so.
Lord (Richard) Rogers of Riverside is the architect, doesn't come much (last voted on the EU Withdrawal Bill last June and last spoke in 2015.
Some others I've not seen for a bit.
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Post by tonygreaves on Feb 6, 2020 23:02:46 GMT
Rumoured we are going to get Messrs Hammond and (Ken) Clarke among the expected influx of Tories.
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Post by timmullen1 on Feb 6, 2020 23:52:10 GMT
Rumoured we are going to get Messrs Hammond and (Ken) Clarke among the expected influx of Tories. And Ms Davidson |
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Post by tonygreaves on Feb 7, 2020 19:05:05 GMT
Well, rumours are 20ish Tories and 8ish Labour. So much for reducing the size of the Lords, and areal kick in the teeth for the people in the Lords who have been working hard to achieve a reduction in size.
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Post by neilm on Feb 7, 2020 20:23:28 GMT
Well, rumours are 20ish Tories and 8ish Labour. So much for reducing the size of the Lords, and areal kick in the teeth for the people in the Lords who have been working hard to achieve a reduction in size. Which peers have been campaigning for that? I didn't know it was a popular cause in their lordship's house. |
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Post by finsobruce on Feb 7, 2020 20:54:25 GMT
Well, rumours are 20ish Tories and 8ish Labour. So much for reducing the size of the Lords, and areal kick in the teeth for the people in the Lords who have been working hard to achieve a reduction in size. Which peers have been campaigning for that? I didn't know it was a popular cause in their lordship's house. It would be interesting to know the composition of this sleeper cell. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Feb 7, 2020 21:04:07 GMT
Well, rumours are 20ish Tories and 8ish Labour. So much for reducing the size of the Lords, and areal kick in the teeth for the people in the Lords who have been working hard to achieve a reduction in size. It would be good to clear out some of the dead wood. There's a way you can contribute to that goal of course, if you feel so strongly about it... |
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 7, 2020 21:23:34 GMT
Well, rumours are 20ish Tories and 8ish Labour. So much for reducing the size of the Lords, and areal kick in the teeth for the people in the Lords who have been working hard to achieve a reduction in size. Anything to oblige dear Sir! |
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 7, 2020 21:50:37 GMT
Well, rumours are 20ish Tories and 8ish Labour. So much for reducing the size of the Lords, and areal kick in the teeth for the people in the Lords who have been working hard to achieve a reduction in size. It would be good to clear out some of the dead wood. There's a way you can contribute to that goal of course, if you feel so strongly about it... That might be the most popular act by a LD for 10-years? |
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Post by finsobruce on Feb 7, 2020 22:07:20 GMT
It would be good to clear out some of the dead wood. There's a way you can contribute to that goal of course, if you feel so strongly about it... That might be the most popular act by a LD for 10-years? You are forgetting Lembit Opik losing his seat in 2010. |
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Post by Tony Otim on Feb 8, 2020 13:02:01 GMT
That might be the most popular act by a LD for 10-years? You are forgetting Lembit Opik losing his seat in 2010. Scarily, that's only a few months from being more than 10 years ago. How did that happen? |
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