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Post by Admin Twaddleford on Jan 2, 2020 17:59:04 GMT
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Post by polaris on Jan 3, 2020 14:42:01 GMT
It will be interesting to compare Joe Anderson's vote with Steve Rotheram's, and the Labour PCC candidates.
I imagine the count will be a very slow process, with two Mayors, a PCC and 30 councillors to be elected.
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Post by Rose Tinted Lane on Jan 10, 2020 15:45:28 GMT
In 2016, Joe Anderson received 52.6% of the vote, compared to an average of 60.0% for Labour council candidates and 61.8% for Jane Kennedy across Merseyside (with, from memory, something like 67% in the Liverpool area). In fairness, there were a lot more choices standing for Mayor than PCC.
I'm led to believe the FPTP elections are being prioritised and done on the night, with counts for the SV elections waiting until the Saturday (as the Friday is a bank holiday)!
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Post by martinwhelton on Jan 15, 2020 9:05:52 GMT
In 2016, Joe Anderson received 52.6% of the vote, compared to an average of 60.0% for Labour council candidates and 61.8% for Jane Kennedy across Merseyside (with, from memory, something like 67% in the Liverpool area). In fairness, there were a lot more choices standing for Mayor than PCC. I'm led to believe the FPTP elections are being prioritised and done on the night, with counts for the SV elections waiting until the Saturday (as the Friday is a bank holiday)! The only problem is that they will have to a multiple verification first which will be for all ballot boxes. |
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Post by andrea on Feb 8, 2020 10:55:56 GMT
The trigger ballot for Anderson is taking place. Much less exciting than we could have hoped for.
Thanks to Liverpool Echo's Liam Thorpe, here is the round up of the ward branches
Allerton and Hunts Cross (4): reselect ( 21 to 3 votes)
Anfield (3): reselect (9 to 7 votes)
Belle Vale (3): reselect (4 to 0....huge turnout!)
Central (3): reselect
Childwall (3): trigger (10 to 4)
Church (3): reselect (15 to 8)
Clubmoor (3): reselect (14 to 6)
County (3): reselect (14 to 0)
Cressington (3): reselect (14 to 6)
Croxteth (3): reselect
Everton (3): reselect (20 to 6 votes)
Fazakerley (3): reselect (13 to 1)
Greenbank (3)
Kensington and Fairfield (3): reselect (4 to 3)
Kirkdale (3)
Knotty Ash (3): reselect
Mossley Hill (3): trigger (19 to 0)
Norris Green (3): reselect
Old Swan (3): reselect (12 to 3)
Picton (3): reselect (14 to 8)
Princes Park (3): trigger
Riverside (3):
St Michael's (3)
[/i]Speke-Garston (3): reselect (7 to 0)
Tuebrook and Stoneycroft (3)
Warbreck (3): trigger
Wavertree: reselect
West Derby (3): reselect
Woolton (3): reselect (9 to 7)
Yew Tree (3): reselect
So far he won 22 wards and lost 4 with only 4 wards outstanding. So he won the branch side.
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Post by andrea on Feb 12, 2020 13:43:22 GMT
Kirkdale: 26 to 1 for Anderson
St Michael's: trigger (21 to 2)
Riverside: 21 to 17 for Anderson
24 to automatically reselect, 5 to trigger.
Greenbank still to meet?
On the affiliate side, he lost Young Labour. Won Co-Op and something like 19 USDAW branches.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Dec 4, 2020 17:15:34 GMT
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Post by Strontium Dog on Dec 4, 2020 17:34:45 GMT
The article notes that a 72 year-old man from Aigburth has also been arrested. Not yet clear if said 72 year-old has the personalised number plate DEG 5Y.
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Post by Sibboleth on Dec 4, 2020 17:45:39 GMT
Such shocking news. Shocking.
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Post by neilm on Dec 4, 2020 17:57:40 GMT
The article notes that a 72 year-old man from Aigburth has also been arrested. Not yet clear if said 72 year-old has the personalised number plate DEG 5Y. I wonder if keeps it in one of John Monk's car parks. |
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Dec 4, 2020 18:30:50 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Dec 4, 2020 18:30:50 GMT
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Post by timrollpickering on Dec 4, 2020 18:36:58 GMT
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Post by edgbaston on Dec 4, 2020 18:48:24 GMT
So what’s he actually done?
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Post by Merseymike on Dec 4, 2020 18:51:41 GMT
So what’s he actually done? The accusation appears to be linked to building contracts. Nothing very new in Liverpool and I'm no fan, but let's not convict him on social media. ... |
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Post by grahammurray on Dec 4, 2020 19:17:05 GMT
So what’s he actually done? The accusation appears to be linked to building contracts. Nothing very new in Liverpool and I'm no fan, but let's not convict him on social media. ... According to the BBC North West news the allegations go beyond that and involve witness intimidation. They even named the case. We should also remember that these are arrests not charges, let alone convictions. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Dec 4, 2020 22:36:08 GMT
The hashtag #chippytits is trending on twitter.
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Post by andrea on Dec 5, 2020 9:15:56 GMT
According to the Times, the other 3 arrested are
Derek Hatton
the council’s assistant director of highways and planning
Anderson's son
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Post by Merseymike on Dec 5, 2020 9:28:18 GMT
According to the Times, the other 3 arrested are Derek Hatton the council’s assistant director of highways and planning Anderson's son Hatton and Anderson weren't exactly political soul mates, but Liverpool politics has something of a history on all sides. It's what I refer to as the boss politics tradition, and Anderson has absolutely followed that blueprint without dissenting. I always found it odd how much loyalty he inspired from people who I thought should have known better, but then the alternatives tended to use similar styles of working without the power of patronage. |
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Post by matureleft on Dec 5, 2020 9:48:54 GMT
According to the Times, the other 3 arrested are Derek Hatton the council’s assistant director of highways and planning Anderson's son Hatton and Anderson weren't exactly political soul mates, but Liverpool politics has something of a history on all sides. It's what I refer to as the boss politics tradition, and Anderson has absolutely followed that blueprint without dissenting. I always found it odd how much loyalty he inspired from people who I thought should have known better, but then the alternatives tended to use similar styles of working without the power of patronage. I won't comment on the matter itself but would instead mount one of my hobby horses - elected mayors. I have always been concerned at the concentration of powers in a single person in a local authority. Of course there are governance constraints but we've seen in other cases (Johnson being an example) that a personal agenda can be pursued and not challenged.
That potential is particularly dangerous in "boss politics" cultures (and I should add that Johnson's mayoralty wasn't that!). Those exist where oppositions are weak and where the "controlling" group is servile or full of those only interested in their own patches. Those conditions can exist within traditional local authority models too, but an elected mayor carries a greater risk than an orthodox council leader. |
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Post by Merseymike on Dec 5, 2020 9:53:53 GMT
Hatton and Anderson weren't exactly political soul mates, but Liverpool politics has something of a history on all sides. It's what I refer to as the boss politics tradition, and Anderson has absolutely followed that blueprint without dissenting. I always found it odd how much loyalty he inspired from people who I thought should have known better, but then the alternatives tended to use similar styles of working without the power of patronage. I won't comment on the matter itself but would instead mount one of my hobby horses - elected mayors. I have always been concerned at the concentration of powers in a single person in a local authority. Of course there are governance constraints but we've seen in other cases (Johnson being an example) that a personal agenda can be pursued and not challenged.
That potential is particularly dangerous in "boss politics" cultures (and I should add that Johnson's mayoralty wasn't that!). Those exist where oppositions are weak and where the "controlling" group is servile or full of those only interested in their own patches. Those conditions can exist within traditional local authority models too, but an elected mayor carries a greater risk than an orthodox council leader. Agree completely. |
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