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Post by conservativeestimate on Feb 19, 2020 16:27:33 GMT
What was the GE vote in Greater Manchester?
The Tories won the popular vote in Greater Manchester in the 2008 local elections.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Feb 19, 2020 17:55:59 GMT
What was the GE vote in Greater Manchester? The Tories won the popular vote in Greater Manchester in the 2008 local elections. 48% Labour 35% Conservative |
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Post by owainsutton on Feb 19, 2020 18:17:42 GMT
What was the GE vote in Greater Manchester? The Tories won the popular vote in Greater Manchester in the 2008 local elections. Good question! Labour 48.3% Conservative 35.3% Lib Dem 7.9% Brexit 5.5% (absent in 4/27 seats) Green 2.4% (absent in 3/27 seats) Other 0.5% |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Feb 19, 2020 19:15:03 GMT
I wonder if any borough will not have a Labour plurality this time, given those results? You'd have to imagine that it'd be Stockport.
Although I think he will win every borough.
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Post by owainsutton on Feb 19, 2020 19:19:22 GMT
I wonder if any borough will not have a Labour plurality this time, given those results? You'd have to imagine that it'd be Stockport. Although I think he will win every borough. Can't see it in Stockport. FPTP on steroids, remember, most people putting their 'tactical' vote as first preference even though it makes more sense to put it second. |
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Post by neilm on Feb 19, 2020 20:01:55 GMT
I suspect Bolton and Wigan will be closer than Stockport, but Burnham will still win both handily.
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Post by neilm on Mar 1, 2020 20:21:55 GMT
Laura Evans for the Conservatives. I have no idea who she is.
EDIT: she's a former Trafford councillor who ran in Wirral West.
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Post by owainsutton on Mar 1, 2020 21:27:40 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Mar 2, 2020 14:12:38 GMT
In fairness, allegiance to Merseyside seems to be no barrier to becoming Mayor of Greater Manchester! |
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Post by CatholicLeft on Mar 2, 2020 14:18:25 GMT
In fairness, allegiance to Merseyside seems to be no barrier to becoming Mayor of Greater Manchester! Yes, but Andy was only...…...I refer the honourable gentleman to the last mayoral election. |
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Post by owainsutton on Mar 4, 2020 17:56:28 GMT
Present at the briefing session were the English Democrats, and the veteran independent Marcus Farmer. Both stood in 2017, and Farmer has stood in at least two GEs (Manchester Withington, 2010 and 2015).
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Post by bsjmcr on Mar 15, 2020 18:44:17 GMT
Present at the briefing session were the English Democrats, and the veteran independent Marcus Farmer. Both stood in 2017, and Farmer has stood in at least two GEs (Manchester Withington, 2010 and 2015). The man seems to have a lot money at the back of the sofa, isn't the deposit for Mayor elections £5,000, not the usual £500 for an MP election? Why bother? Having said that, at this rate, we could see Mohammed Aslam again, he was on the ballot in the Euro elections last year, which has the same deposit I believe! Same goes to him! I suggest to both of them this time around that they put their £5,000 to the Mayor's Homelessness Fund instead, much better use... The ED's amusingly beat UKIP in the 2017 mayor election, and without the Brexit Party, could well hold their deposit? |
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Post by owainsutton on Mar 15, 2020 19:25:24 GMT
Yep, £5k deposit for both. (The threshold for it in the Euros was 2.5% rather than 5%, which was why Tommy Robinson losing his was especially funny.) Farmer runs a big recycling/scrap metal business, hence having the cash to burn.
In 2017, the EDs were in the booklet sent to all households, but UKIP weren't. I've heard it said that the UKIP candidate had committed to paying for that himself (another £5k or so) and reneged.
Plus some very bad press coverage indeed. "Orthodox rabbi caught using BDSM dating website" competed with "UKIP candidate burns bible" for the top spot. I'm not joking.
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Post by David Boothroyd on Aug 6, 2020 22:16:55 GMT
Some quite bizarre things going on in Greater Manchester with the area's Conservative MPs attacking the Mayor for saying the lockdown must apply to all boroughs equally (a position urged by HM Government, which the MPs support). The Mayor hits back:  |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 7, 2020 9:14:00 GMT
It's quite impressive to watch Burnham and the Tory MPs both be completely bloody ridiculous, whilst opposing each other. Neither have covered themselves in glory throughout this whole story.
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Post by kvasir on Aug 7, 2020 9:26:36 GMT
It's quite impressive to watch Burnham and the Tory MPs both be completely bloody ridiculous, whilst opposing each other. Neither have covered themselves in glory throughout this whole story. The Tory MPs clearly come out far worse. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 7, 2020 9:35:31 GMT
It's quite impressive to watch Burnham and the Tory MPs both be completely bloody ridiculous, whilst opposing each other. Neither have covered themselves in glory throughout this whole story. The Tory MPs clearly come out far worse. They do in this instance, yes. But we'd be better off if Burnham had stuck to his dull managerialism of before rather than using the last few months to pick fights with individual councils, and indulge in his worst flaw: self-promotion. |
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Post by The Bishop on Aug 7, 2020 9:36:29 GMT
A transparent attempt by those MPs to "have their cake and eat it" in the most blatant fashion. And in this instance Burnham's brutal response was totally appropriate  |
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Post by neilm on Aug 7, 2020 10:21:31 GMT
The Tory MPs clearly come out far worse. They do in this instance, yes. But we'd be better off if Burnham had stuck to his dull managerialism of before rather than using the last few months to pick fights with individual councils, and indulge in his worst flaw: self-promotion. He needs to rein in Sacha Lord as well: he's an expert at self promotion. |
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Post by thirdchill on Aug 7, 2020 10:33:58 GMT
The Tory MPs clearly come out far worse. They do in this instance, yes. But we'd be better off if Burnham had stuck to his dull managerialism of before rather than using the last few months to pick fights with individual councils, and indulge in his worst flaw: self-promotion. The flaw being that they only criticised Burnham rather than both Burnham and the government. Am happy myself to criticise both, the government for pushing this approach and Burnham for agreeing to it, and if the MPs have a problem with the approach that's what they should be doing. In theory Greater Manchester could end up with restrictions for a very long time if they use 'Interconnectedness' reasoning to push restrictions on all the boroughs if one or two of them are very high. That includes wigan, that would be included under every one of these measures under this reasoning even if it had zero cases in the entire borough for a month. |
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