J.G.Harston
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jan 13, 2020 21:16:43 GMT
The district includes Ilkley as well as villages like Burley and Menston, but you’re not likely to find many people there who say they live in, or even near, Bradford. I used to work at the Royal Mail sorting post and you saw ‘Menston nr Leeds’ a lot, but never ‘Menston nr Bradford’. Ilkley doesn't "feel" like Bradford, it "feels" like Leeds, and is in a feeder valley into Leeds, you have to go up'n'over the moors to get into Bradford. |
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Post by Admin Twaddleford on Jan 13, 2020 21:24:24 GMT
The district includes Ilkley as well as villages like Burley and Menston, but you’re not likely to find many people there who say they live in, or even near, Bradford. I used to work at the Royal Mail sorting post and you saw ‘Menston nr Leeds’ a lot, but never ‘Menston nr Bradford’. Ilkley doesn't "feel" like Bradford, it "feels" like Leeds, and is in a feeder valley into Leeds, you have to go up'n'over the moors to get into Bradford. People who live in Baildon like me identify more closely with Shipley than with Bradford. I've never seen Baildon, Bradford or Shipley, Bradford in any address. |
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Post by greenhert on Jan 13, 2020 21:35:07 GMT
I wouldn’t exactly call Ilkley ‘straight taking Yorkshire’ - it’s exceedingly posh and pretentious in its own way.Besides, you shouldn’t be basing where to live on the political leanings of the residents. Within Yorkshire you could also be describing Harrogate of course, and within its traditional rival Lancashire you could also be describing Lytham-St Anne's.
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Merseymike
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Post by Merseymike on Jan 13, 2020 21:40:37 GMT
Ilkley doesn't "feel" like Bradford, it "feels" like Leeds, and is in a feeder valley into Leeds, you have to go up'n'over the moors to get into Bradford. People who live in Baildon like me identify more closely with Shipley than with Bradford. I've never seen Baildon, Bradford or Shipley, Bradford in any address. I think that's because Shipley is the post towns in its own right and Baildon has Shipley not Bradford as post town address |
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Post by hullenedge on Jan 13, 2020 22:04:30 GMT
There was a scheme (early 80s) to draw a Wharfe Valley district that would stretch from Ilkley to Wetherby. Came to nothing.
Another scheme to split Kirklees - Greater Huddersfield/Dewsbury, Batley & Spen. Came to nothing.
It was proposed in 1971 that Ossett be included in Kirklees. They opted for Wakefield.
This has nothing to do with Calderdale. Waiting for news about the 2020 candidates.
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Post by ccoleman on Jan 13, 2020 22:41:29 GMT
The district includes Ilkley as well as villages like Burley and Menston, but you’re not likely to find many people there who say they live in, or even near, Bradford. I used to work at the Royal Mail sorting post and you saw ‘Menston nr Leeds’ a lot, but never ‘Menston nr Bradford’. Ilkley doesn't "feel" like Bradford, it "feels" like Leeds, and is in a feeder valley into Leeds, you have to go up'n'over the moors to get into Bradford. The Wharfedale line is one the busiest commuter lines outside London. The trains from and to Ilkley on a morning/evening are always ridiculously packed. The Airedale line (Bingley etc) is similarly busy.  |
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Post by Admin Twaddleford on Jan 13, 2020 22:45:56 GMT
Ilkley doesn't "feel" like Bradford, it "feels" like Leeds, and is in a feeder valley into Leeds, you have to go up'n'over the moors to get into Bradford. The Wharfedale line is one the busiest commuter lines outside London. The trains from and to Ilkley on a morning/evening are always ridiculously packed. Same goes for Leeds to Skipton trains. Once it gets to 4pm, it's like the Sardine Express. |
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Post by neilm on Jan 18, 2020 19:17:40 GMT
Anyway, it's fair to say that the place suffered significant decline over the early years of my residence 'Senior Lib Dem admits role in destroying city' |
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Post by bjornhattan on Jan 18, 2020 19:48:48 GMT
Very sad. A 'Jewel of the North' 30 years ago and now...dump is too polite. Nice when your coinings come back to you  I moved to the Jewel in 84 so go back 36 years. Its worth remembering that the Bradford District covers a lot more than just the City - I believe it is the most rural metropolitan district or something. Anyway, it's fair to say that the place suffered significant decline over the early years of my residence but I honestly believe it has turned the corner. Broadway and the City park do seem to be bringing more people back into the centre. As pointed out above the architecture is brilliant, and just needs to be sympathetically exposed. And of course all the great bits of the wider district are there as always (and not just the Brontes) The most rural metropolitan district? I like to think my own borough is more rural, especially the western part. Blaydon is definitely a mainly rural seat with suburban areas. But the subject of this thread is probably more rural than both, as a trip on the bus from Keighley down to Hebden Bridge will prove. |
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Post by hullenedge on Mar 3, 2020 14:28:03 GMT
Labour's internal polling forecasting up to five losses and a chance of one gain (assume Skircoat):-
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Post by YL on Mar 4, 2020 8:38:50 GMT
Defending parties in split wards:
Brighouse: Ind elected as Con (other seats 2 Con)
Elland: Lib Dem (other seats 2 Lab)
Hipperholme & Lightcliffe: Con (other seats 1 Con, 1 Ind)
Ryburn: Con (other seats 1 Con, 1 Ind)
Skircoat: Con (other seats 2 Lab)
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Mar 4, 2020 8:40:56 GMT
The bloke in Brighouse is I think that weirdo who was a member of the CUK party for a while
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Post by YL on Mar 4, 2020 9:05:00 GMT
The bloke in Brighouse is I think that weirdo who was a member of the CUK party for a while I don't know if he is a weirdo, but yes he was a member of ChUK/TIG/whatever they were called. He stood in Colne Valley in the General Election as an Independent. |
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Post by hullenedge on Mar 4, 2020 20:01:26 GMT
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Merseymike
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Post by Merseymike on Mar 4, 2020 20:04:22 GMT
Hard not to be cynical. If the LibDems stood down in Greetland and Stainland, or Warley.... |
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Post by owainsutton on Mar 4, 2020 20:18:47 GMT
Arrrgggh. This does my head in. Back in GE2019 the local Greens went with "stand down and endorse Labour". Evidently, that worked out well enough to revive the idea.
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Chris from Brum
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Post by Chris from Brum on Mar 4, 2020 20:44:43 GMT
Arrrgggh. This does my head in. Back in GE2019 the local Greens went with "stand down and endorse Labour". Evidently, that worked out well enough to revive the idea. Perhaps the Greens have finally realised that Labour's green credentials are paper-thin, particularly under the leadership of Jeremy "reopen the coalmines" Corbyn |
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Post by European Lefty on Mar 4, 2020 22:08:03 GMT
Arrrgggh. This does my head in. Back in GE2019 the local Greens went with "stand down and endorse Labour". Evidently, that worked out well enough to revive the idea. Perhaps the Greens have finally realised that Labour's green credentials are paper-thin, particularly under the leadership of Jeremy "reopen the coalmines" Corbyn That must be why Friends of the Earth rated Labour's manifesto more environmentally friendly than all the others at the general election..... |
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Post by greenchristian on Mar 4, 2020 22:35:48 GMT
Perhaps the Greens have finally realised that Labour's green credentials are paper-thin, particularly under the leadership of Jeremy "reopen the coalmines" Corbyn That must be why Friends of the Earth rated Labour's manifesto more environmentally friendly than all the others at the general election..... If you read what FoE actually said, it turns out that they rated Labour on their manifesto plus a range of other statements that were not in the manifesto, whilst rating all the other parties solely on the contents of their manifesto. Then they had the cheek to portray the comparison as a fair comparison between the parties' stances on the environment. |
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Post by owainsutton on Mar 5, 2020 0:10:54 GMT
The brilliant move by FoE of going back to Labour and telling them where they were scoring badly, so that a few shadow cabinet people could make up some extra uncosted stuff, was something special.
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