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Post by Admin Twaddleford on Jan 1, 2020 14:26:50 GMT
Lab majority
Elects by thirds
Current composition: Lab 52, Con 22, LD 8, Green 2, Oth 6
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Post by hullenedge on Jun 2, 2020 17:03:58 GMT
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Post by swanarcadian on Aug 30, 2020 10:59:42 GMT
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Post by greenhert on Aug 30, 2020 11:42:37 GMT
Conveniently, most of them happen to be wards without Labour councillors and Keighley and Shipley are both marginal Conservative constituencies. There is clearly a partisan approach to many recent lockdowns-Trafford was not subjected to recent restrictions despite a higher R rate, and Trafford happens to contain the semi-marginal constituency of Altrincham & Sale West, which is leaning towards Labour in the long-term. |
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Post by bjornhattan on Aug 30, 2020 11:50:48 GMT
Conveniently, most of them happen to be wards without Labour councillors and Keighley and Shipley are both marginal Conservative constituencies. There is clearly a partisan approach to many recent lockdowns-Trafford was not subjected to recent restrictions despite a higher R rate, and Trafford happens to contain the semi-marginal constituency of Altrincham & Sale West, which is leaning towards Labour in the long-term. There's not much of a conspiracy about it, they're the wards outside the two main urban areas where the virus is most prevalent. In Calderdale, they allowed the Labour bastion of Hebden Bridge out of restrictions - there's not a partisan motive there. |
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Post by hullenedge on Aug 30, 2020 11:55:45 GMT
Conveniently, most of them happen to be wards without Labour councillors and Keighley and Shipley are both marginal Conservative constituencies. There is clearly a partisan approach to many recent lockdowns-Trafford was not subjected to recent restrictions despite a higher R rate, and Trafford happens to contain the semi-marginal constituency of Altrincham & Sale West, which is leaning towards Labour in the long-term. There's not much of a conspiracy about it, they're the wards outside the two main urban areas where the virus is most prevalent. In Calderdale, they allowed the Labour bastion of Hebden Bridge out of restrictions - there's not a partisan motive there. All of Huddersfield released as well. Hardly a Blue bastion. |
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Crimson King
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Post by Crimson King on Aug 31, 2020 21:41:25 GMT
My email etc has been busy with this. Basically people in Idle and Thackley are wondering why they are still restricted when next door Windhill and Wrose isnt. As bjornhattan points out in keighly constituency there is a distinction between the urban and more rural wards. This does not seem to be the case in Bradford East (and elswhere in the Bradford districts) where there is distinction between the urban centre and the villages on the edges. There seems to be a view that the MPs and Council leader didnt lobby for any relaxatiin in the low incidence wards |
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Post by swanarcadian on Aug 31, 2020 22:17:24 GMT
The district of course takes in places as far afield as Ilkley, Silsden, Oxenhope, Denholme, Addingham et cetera, and the rural areas in between. Their residents, including members of my family, were understandably very resentful of being tarred with the same brush as the more central wards. There has been a fair degree of lobbying in favour of breaking the Shipley and Keighley constituencies away from Bradford MDC to form their own local authority for some time - these are supported by the local MPs.
In addition, my own parents in Queensbury are wondering why their ward is still to be restricted, and Judith Cummins has expressed her disappointment that none of the Bradford South wards are having restrictions lifted. One wonders if this would have happened to Queensbury had it been incorporated into Calderdale in 1974 along with Shelf instead.
Bring back the UDCs!
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Post by neilm on Sept 1, 2020 13:12:45 GMT
Conveniently, most of them happen to be wards without Labour councillors and Keighley and Shipley are both marginal Conservative constituencies. There is clearly a partisan approach to many recent lockdowns-Trafford was not subjected to recent restrictions despite a higher R rate, and Trafford happens to contain the semi-marginal constituency of Altrincham & Sale West, which is leaning towards Labour in the long-term. How are you defining marginal and semi marginal? Davies' majority is bigger than Brady's, but his seat is marginal? You state that A&SW is leaning Labour long-term, which with the lower majority implies that it is in fact more marginal than Keighley. |
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Post by greenhert on Sept 1, 2020 20:14:43 GMT
Conveniently, most of them happen to be wards without Labour councillors and Keighley and Shipley are both marginal Conservative constituencies. There is clearly a partisan approach to many recent lockdowns-Trafford was not subjected to recent restrictions despite a higher R rate, and Trafford happens to contain the semi-marginal constituency of Altrincham & Sale West, which is leaning towards Labour in the long-term. How are you defining marginal and semi marginal? Davies' majority is bigger than Brady's, but his seat is marginal? You state that A&SW is leaning Labour long-term, which with the lower majority implies that it is in fact more marginal than Keighley. It is more complicated than just numbers; political history and trends have to be taken into account as well. I am not implying Altrincham & Sale West is more marginal than Keighley, because it most certainly is not. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 3, 2020 9:48:30 GMT
There's not much of a conspiracy about it, they're the wards outside the two main urban areas where the virus is most prevalent. In Calderdale, they allowed the Labour bastion of Hebden Bridge out of restrictions - there's not a partisan motive there. All of Huddersfield released as well. Hardly a Blue bastion. And Bury, with its two Tory-Lab marginals remains in. As does Heywood & Middleton. Trafford was briefly let out and is a Labour-run council with a swathe covered by two Labour MPs. The problem here is that Greater Manchester's political leaders of all stripes are allergic to targeted action and seem oblivious to the fact that other areas are able to develop a nuanced approach. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Sept 3, 2020 9:50:40 GMT
Conveniently, most of them happen to be wards without Labour councillors and Keighley and Shipley are both marginal Conservative constituencies. There is clearly a partisan approach to many recent lockdowns-Trafford was not subjected to recent restrictions despite a higher R rate, and Trafford happens to contain the semi-marginal constituency of Altrincham & Sale West, which is leaning towards Labour in the long-term. Trafford was subject to the recent restrictions- do you mean that it was released from them despite a higher R rate? |
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Post by greenhert on Sept 3, 2020 13:37:51 GMT
Conveniently, most of them happen to be wards without Labour councillors and Keighley and Shipley are both marginal Conservative constituencies. There is clearly a partisan approach to many recent lockdowns-Trafford was not subjected to recent restrictions despite a higher R rate, and Trafford happens to contain the semi-marginal constituency of Altrincham & Sale West, which is leaning towards Labour in the long-term. Trafford was subject to the recent restrictions- do you mean that it was released from them despite a higher R rate? Yes I do. |
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