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Post by iainbhx on Jun 27, 2020 7:39:46 GMT
Perhaps donating a ward to Leominster is the better idea? Shrewsbury & Wenlock 75922 Bridgnorth 76070 Ludlow & Oswestry 75274 Wellington & Market Drayton 75465 Telford 74541 There are worse ways of doing it; I know, because I found them first. That map gives off very strong 'have you planned your funeral yet?' vibes. Personally, I'm going to make sure I wear a balaclava next time I have a fag outside Shrewsbury station whilst changing trains.  |
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Post by Sibboleth on Jun 27, 2020 17:25:02 GMT
That map gives off very strong 'have you planned your funeral yet?' vibes. Personally, I'm going to make sure I wear a balaclava next time I have a fag outside Shrewsbury station whilst changing trains. View AttachmentYou'd be fine at Shrewsbury station with that map, but be on your guard when people get on at Gobowen or Wem. |
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Post by greenhert on Jun 27, 2020 18:54:54 GMT
The Lancashire side of Merseyside is not affected all that much by this review on 2019 electorate figures:  Ward split in Picton between Liverpool Riverside and Liverpool Wavertree, and in Halewood North between St Helens South & Whiston (whose redrawn version contains no part of Prescot) and Garston & Knowsley South (a redrawn Garston & Halewood). Four constituencies (St Helens North, Bootle, Sefton Central and Southport) are unchanged. Liverpool Riverside and Liverpool Wavertree are marginally less monolithically Labour than before under this plan. |
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Post by greenhert on Jun 27, 2020 19:46:40 GMT
Cheshire & The Wirral is much easier on the 2019 electorate figures as well (no ward splits needed either!):  Birkenhead (ultra-safe Labour) Wallasey (ultra-safe Labour) Wirral & Neston (marginal Labour; succeeds Wirral West) Bebington (safe Labour; succeeds Wirral South) Ellesmere Port (marginal Labour) City of Chester (safe Labour) Widnes & Runcorn (ultra-safe Labour; renamed but unchanged Halton) Northwich (marginal Conservative; succeeds Weaver Vale) Nantwich & Winsford (very safe Conservative; succeeds Eddisbury) Crewe & Alsager (marginal Conservative; succeeds Crewe & Nantwich) Congleton (very safe Conservative) Macclesfield (very safe Conservative) Knutsford & Lymm (ultra-safe Conservative; succeeds Tatton) Warrington North East (ultra-marginal Labour, renamed but unchanged Warrington North) Warrington South West (ultra-marginal Labour, succeeds Warrington South) |
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Jun 27, 2020 20:14:21 GMT
Those strips of Warrington and St Helens look mad at first glance.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jun 27, 2020 20:15:41 GMT
Cheshire & The Wirral is much easier on the 2019 electorate figures as well (no ward splits needed either!): View AttachmentNantwich & Winsford (very safe Conservative; succeeds Eddisbury) Crewe & Alsager (marginal Conservative; succeeds Crewe & Nantwich) You realise that using the word Winsford in any naming is blazing wicker man stuff anywhere other than . . . Winsford? And that a seat stretching from Barthomley Blakenhall to Farndon is . . . large? |
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Post by greenhert on Jun 27, 2020 20:40:04 GMT
Cheshire & The Wirral is much easier on the 2019 electorate figures as well (no ward splits needed either!): Nantwich & Winsford (very safe Conservative; succeeds Eddisbury) Crewe & Alsager (marginal Conservative; succeeds Crewe & Nantwich) You realise that using the word Winsford in any naming is blazing wicker man stuff anywhere other than . . . Winsford? And that a seat stretching from Barthomley Blakenhall to Farndon is . . . large? Winsford is large enough to constitute a significant part of that constituency, therefore Nantwich & Winsford (rather than simply Nantwich) is justified. |
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Post by greenhert on Jun 27, 2020 20:41:10 GMT
Those strips of Warrington and St Helens look mad at first glance. They are definitely separate; I should have used more distinct shades of pink and purple. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jun 27, 2020 21:01:51 GMT
You realise that using the word Winsford in any naming is blazing wicker man stuff anywhere other than . . . Winsford? And that a seat stretching from Barthomley Blakenhall to Farndon is . . . large? Winsford is large enough to constitute a significant part of that constituency, therefore Nantwich & Winsford (rather than simply Nantwich) is justified. I will guarantee that any such proposal would attract more individual objections than any other naming in the country. It may be "justified". It still won't stop the head of the BCE being burnt in effigy in Nantwich, Audlem, Tarporley etc etc etc |
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Post by bsjmcr on Jun 27, 2020 22:18:23 GMT
Cheshire & The Wirral is much easier on the 2019 electorate figures as well (no ward splits needed either!): Birkenhead (ultra-safe Labour) Wallasey (ultra-safe Labour) Wirral & Neston (marginal Labour; succeeds Wirral West) Bebington (safe Labour; succeeds Wirral South) Ellesmere Port (marginal Labour) City of Chester (safe Labour) Widnes & Runcorn (ultra-safe Labour; renamed but unchanged Halton) Northwich (marginal Conservative; succeeds Weaver Vale) Nantwich & Winsford (very safe Conservative; succeeds Eddisbury) Crewe & Alsager (marginal Conservative; succeeds Crewe & Nantwich) Congleton (very safe Conservative) Macclesfield (very safe Conservative) Knutsford & Lymm (ultra-safe Conservative; succeeds Tatton) Warrington North East (ultra-marginal Labour, renamed but unchanged Warrington North) Warrington South West (ultra-marginal Labour, succeeds Warrington South) Yay, about time 'Eddisbury' was put out to grass! With the shape of yours "Cheshire South" probably would also make sense and prevent pitchforks more than anything. Sad to see Tatton go but there we are (IMHO I don't think Lymm would be too unhappy if it was in 'Tatton', but Knutsford probably was always the logical choice. Re: Liverpool - Please, please can 'Liverpool' precede Garston (and...). 'Liverpool South' would be my ideal as the Knowsley bits are Liverpool facing. The rest of Knowsley can be Huyton and Kirkby? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 4:42:32 GMT
I rarely make it to Liverpool/Merseyside because I can never finish Lancashire properly with seats being too large or too small, I don't get the chance to look elsewhere. As it goes, this attempt at Liverpool had to grind to a halt because the cross-Mersey seat I suggested earlier appears to knock the meeting point of Liverpool/Knowsley/St Helens, all of which go over quota no matter what you do with them, All seats here have their current names except, of course, Wallasey and Kirkdale, and Liverpool West Derby and Broadgreen. Sadly everything then goes wrong so I've stopped but for reference.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 8:07:21 GMT
I rarely make it to Liverpool/Merseyside because I can never finish Lancashire properly with seats being too large or too small, I don't get the chance to look elsewhere. As it goes, this attempt at Liverpool had to grind to a halt because the cross-Mersey seat I suggested earlier appears to knock the meeting point of Liverpool/Knowsley/St Helens, all of which go over quota no matter what you do with them, All seats here have their current names except, of course, Wallasey and Kirkdale, and Liverpool West Derby and Broadgreen. Sadly everything then goes wrong so I've stopped but for reference. Mersey Banks mark 2? |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Jun 28, 2020 9:34:56 GMT
Had a stab at Worcestershire (sorry haven't worked out how to copy maps yet).
Wyre Forest and Worcestershire East are slightly too big now. Redditch is significantly too small.
Unfortunately Redditch does not border Wyre Forest.
So, ward moves:
Wyre Forest Rural from Wyre Forest to Bromsgrove;
2 Alvechurch wards plus Tardebigge from Bromsgrove to Redditch;
Dodderhill from Worcs East to Redditch.
Worcs West and Worcester as you were.
Wyre Forest 69642 Yes
Bromsgrove 74429 Yes
Redditch 73546 Yes
Worcestershire West 75099 Yes
Worcester 73930 Yes
Worcestershire East 75103 Yes
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Post by greenhert on Jun 28, 2020 9:42:58 GMT
Had a stab at Worcestershire (sorry haven't worked out how to copy maps yet). Wyre Forest and Worcestershire East are slightly too big now. Redditch is significantly too small. Unfortunately Redditch does not border Wyre Forest. So, ward moves: Wyre Forest Rural from Wyre Forest to Bromsgrove; 2 Alvechurch wards plus Tardebigge from Bromsgrove to Redditch; Dodderhill from Worcs East to Redditch. Worcs West and Worcester as you were. Wyre Forest 69642 Yes Bromsgrove 74429 Yes Redditch 73546 Yes Worcestershire West 75099 Yes Worcester 73930 Yes Worcestershire East 75103 Yes You surely mean "Mid Worcestershire". There has never been an East Worcestershire constituency, and Redditch is "East Worcestershire" in practice. |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Jun 28, 2020 9:59:50 GMT
Had a stab at Worcestershire (sorry haven't worked out how to copy maps yet). Wyre Forest and Worcestershire East are slightly too big now. Redditch is significantly too small. Unfortunately Redditch does not border Wyre Forest. So, ward moves: Wyre Forest Rural from Wyre Forest to Bromsgrove; 2 Alvechurch wards plus Tardebigge from Bromsgrove to Redditch; Dodderhill from Worcs East to Redditch. Worcs West and Worcester as you were. Wyre Forest 69642 Yes Bromsgrove 74429 Yes Redditch 73546 Yes Worcestershire West 75099 Yes Worcester 73930 Yes Worcestershire East 75103 Yes You surely mean "Mid Worcestershire". There has never been an East Worcestershire constituency, and Redditch is "East Worcestershire" in practice. Yes, sorry, Mid Worcestershire. East Worcestershire constituency was abolished in 1918. Aside: I used to work for the East Worcestershire Water Company. |
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 28, 2020 10:05:51 GMT
You surely mean "Mid Worcestershire". There has never been an East Worcestershire constituency, and Redditch is "East Worcestershire" in practice. Yes, sorry, Mid Worcestershire. East Worcestershire constituency was abolished in 1918. Aside: I used to work for the East Worcestershire Water Company. The last MP for East Worcestershire, Leverton Harris, was in the wartime coalition as private secretary to the Ministry of Blockade but still had his political career finished by allegations that his wife had been taking food parcels to an interned Austrian Baron. |
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Jun 28, 2020 10:05:54 GMT
I rarely make it to Liverpool/Merseyside because I can never finish Lancashire properly with seats being too large or too small, I don't get the chance to look elsewhere. As it goes, this attempt at Liverpool had to grind to a halt because the cross-Mersey seat I suggested earlier appears to knock the meeting point of Liverpool/Knowsley/St Helens, all of which go over quota no matter what you do with them, All seats here have their current names except, of course, Wallasey and Kirkdale, and Liverpool West Derby and Broadgreen. Sadly everything then goes wrong so I've stopped but for reference. I don't think you'll be able to draw seats in the rest of Wirral using whole wards now. |
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Jun 28, 2020 10:10:25 GMT
Yes, sorry, Mid Worcestershire. East Worcestershire constituency was abolished in 1918. Aside: I used to work for the East Worcestershire Water Company. The last MP for East Worcestershire, Leverton Harris, was in the wartime coalition as private secretary to the Ministry of Blockade but still had his political career finished by allegations that his wife had been taking food parcels to an interned Austrian Baron. It must have been grossly oversized by then, as it was replaced by three Birmingham constituencies (King's Norton, Moseley, Yardley), plus there were leftover bits that went into Kidderminster. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 11:27:33 GMT
I rarely make it to Liverpool/Merseyside because I can never finish Lancashire properly with seats being too large or too small, I don't get the chance to look elsewhere. As it goes, this attempt at Liverpool had to grind to a halt because the cross-Mersey seat I suggested earlier appears to knock the meeting point of Liverpool/Knowsley/St Helens, all of which go over quota no matter what you do with them, All seats here have their current names except, of course, Wallasey and Kirkdale, and Liverpool West Derby and Broadgreen. Sadly everything then goes wrong so I've stopped but for reference. I don't think you'll be able to draw seats in the rest of Wirral using whole wards now. I've kept Wallasey and Kirkdale and then tried working down Wirral and there are very very few options. It would require split wards. We'll have to wait for whichever direction the March electorate figures take us. This version has the two in bold over and under. Only by a thousand-ish each way, out of quota all the same. 1 Wallasey and Kirkdale 69128 Yes 2 Hoylake 77790 15473 Birkenhead 76146 Yes 4 Wirral South 70292 Yes 5 Ellesmere Port and Frodsham 67918 -1065
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Post by islington on Jun 28, 2020 11:29:30 GMT
Right, I've had a go with Eastern region. Here's Herts & Beds, all contiguous and legal but quite messy in places. Putting Bushey back in SW Herts is far from ideal but there is precedent.
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