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Post by Merseymike on Dec 1, 2020 14:21:09 GMT
Probably about 30 years too late.. You’re probably right. They may have been more concerned about Hale End & Highams Park South (what a bloody mouthful). I’ve no idea how the Hale End Road area the controversy was about, votes compared to the areas south and north. But there’s plenty of nice middle-class housing in this part of Walthamstow, alongside the strip of Epping Forest. Having said that, this is no indication of Conservative voting in London.
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Post by Wisconsin on Dec 1, 2020 17:17:40 GMT
I’m sad to see that the LGBCE have yet again ignored my feedback that ‘Cathall’ is an ugly name.
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Post by John Chanin on Dec 1, 2020 18:18:38 GMT
I’m sad to see that the LGBCE have yet again ignored my feedback that ‘Cathall’ is an ugly name. What would you suggest instead? The Cathall Estate is the main component of the ward. Downsell? South Leyton? Langthorne?
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Dec 1, 2020 22:05:32 GMT
I see the Conservatives have won their case on Upper Walthamstow. Now of course they have to actually win the ward at the next council elections. And Labour have retained that weird-looking William Morris ward.
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 1, 2020 22:07:11 GMT
I see the Conservatives have won their case on Upper Walthamstow. Now of course they have to actually win the ward at the next council elections. And Labour have retained that weird-looking William Morris ward. That news came from nowhere.
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Post by 🏴☠️ Neath West 🏴☠️ on Dec 1, 2020 22:19:55 GMT
And Labour have retained that weird-looking William Morris ward. That news came from nowhere. It's the big-deal change from the original draft. I'm not quite sure why they want something that looks so odd, but presumably it must make some sort of sense.
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Post by carlton43 on Dec 1, 2020 22:39:17 GMT
And Labour have retained that weird-looking William Morris ward. That news came from nowhere. The ward of Erewhon is ever with us.
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Post by Peter Wilkinson on Dec 2, 2020 0:45:26 GMT
I see the Conservatives have won their case on Upper Walthamstow. Now of course they have to actually win the ward at the next council elections. And Labour have retained that weird-looking William Morris ward. I only know the area slightly, but from what I do know of it, the ward makes sense - Forest Road (very much the main road in that part of Waltham Forest) between Hoe Street/Chingford Road and Blackhorse Lane and a number of side streets, most of which run into it, largely (I think) built in the generation before the First World War. To the north-west, Higham Hill is a well-defined area, and the area to the south is very much focussed on Walthamstow High Street.
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Post by John Chanin on Dec 2, 2020 7:51:17 GMT
And Labour have retained that weird-looking William Morris ward. I only know the area slightly, but from what I do know of it, the ward makes sense - Forest Road (very much the main road in that part of Waltham Forest) between Hoe Street/Chingford Road and Blackhorse Lane and a number of side streets, most of which run into it, largely (I think) built in the generation before the First World War. To the north-west, Higham Hill is a well-defined area, and the area to the south is very much focussed on Walthamstow High Street. My own view as a former resident of Walthamstow (High Street ward) is that the ward is indeed a bit odd, but not outrageously so, and as Peter Wilkinson says, as always wards have to be considered in relation to their neighbours. But a Lloyd Park ward north of Forest Road would make perfect sense, and Forest Road is a major divide. I haven't dug into the detailed figures, but I suspect there is a numbers issue. And it's nice to have a ward named after a famous former resident. His old house now makes a very nice museum. In the long distant days when I was actively involved in making proposals to the LGBCE there was always a dialogue in relation to major roads and shopping centres. Should the boundary run along the major road? Or should it recognise the community clustered around the major road, and the boundary meander through side streets? The former looks much neater on a map, but the latter often better reflects people's sense of where they live.
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Post by yellowperil on Dec 2, 2020 8:38:08 GMT
I only know the area slightly, but from what I do know of it, the ward makes sense - Forest Road (very much the main road in that part of Waltham Forest) between Hoe Street/Chingford Road and Blackhorse Lane and a number of side streets, most of which run into it, largely (I think) built in the generation before the First World War. To the north-west, Higham Hill is a well-defined area, and the area to the south is very much focussed on Walthamstow High Street. My own view as a former resident of Walthamstow (High Street ward) is that the ward is indeed a bit odd, but not outrageously so, and as Peter Wilkinson says, as always wards have to be considered in relation to their neighbours. But a Lloyd Park ward north of Forest Road would make perfect sense, and Forest Road is a major divide. I haven't dug into the detailed figures, but I suspect there is a numbers issue. And it's nice to have a ward named after a famous former resident. His old house now makes a very nice museum. In the long distant days when I was actively involved in making proposals to the LGBCE there was always a dialogue in relation to major roads and shopping centres. Should the boundary run along the major road? Or should it recognise the community clustered around the major road, and the boundary meander through side streets? The former looks much neater on a map, but the latter often better reflects people's sense of where they live. I concur, both with the generic point about map neatness and the reality on the ground, and with the specifics of the William Morris ward. My knowledge of the latter on the ground is pretty out of date though - I was living and working in Waltham Forest once-but in the very early sixties!
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Dec 2, 2020 8:44:32 GMT
I wish I hadn't mentioned sodding Waltham Forest - its a shame @priceofdawn left..
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Post by John Chanin on Dec 2, 2020 8:49:55 GMT
I wish I hadn't mentioned sodding Waltham Forest - its a shame @priceofdawn left.. Now now Pete. You’ll just have to recruit more St Albans residents onto this site.
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Post by grahammurray on Dec 2, 2020 10:00:11 GMT
I wish I hadn't mentioned sodding Waltham Forest - its a shame @priceofdawn left.. Surely Waltham Forest is one of the last places that needs to be sodded.
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Post by andrewteale on Dec 2, 2020 10:26:58 GMT
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Post by Peter Wilkinson on Dec 2, 2020 15:19:43 GMT
Surely, an electoral changes order for Merton should introduce new ward boundaries for Merton council, not for Sutton.
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Dec 2, 2020 15:46:59 GMT
Surely, an electoral changes order for Merton should introduce new ward boundaries for Merton council, not for Sutton. I did get worried that the boundary was being moved meaning my football club's ground, which is just on the Merton side of the boundary, were to become part of the London Borough of Slutton. Although that borough does need a decent football ground in it, as Gangrene Lane is a dump.
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Post by greenhert on Dec 2, 2020 16:36:18 GMT
Surely, an electoral changes order for Merton should introduce new ward boundaries for Merton council, not for Sutton. And it does. Has Sutton undergone its own Electoral Changes Order for the 2022 elections yet?
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Post by andrewteale on Dec 2, 2020 17:28:30 GMT
Surely, an electoral changes order for Merton should introduce new ward boundaries for Merton council, not for Sutton. And it does. Has Sutton undergone its own Electoral Changes Order for the 2022 elections yet? Yes, Sutton's order has already gone through. I didn't change that word when I copied and pasted the text
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Post by andrewteale on Dec 2, 2020 17:29:31 GMT
Surely, an electoral changes order for Merton should introduce new ward boundaries for Merton council, not for Sutton. I did get worried that the boundary was being moved meaning my football club's ground, which is just on the Merton side of the boundary, were to become part of the London Borough of Slutton. Although that borough does need a decent football ground in it, as Gangrene Lane is a dump. u ok hun?
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Dec 2, 2020 17:35:05 GMT
I did get worried that the boundary was being moved meaning my football club's ground, which is just on the Merton side of the boundary, were to become part of the London Borough of Slutton. Although that borough does need a decent football ground in it, as Gangrene Lane is a dump. u ok hun? Lol I no wt u mn
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