Chris from Brum
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Post by Chris from Brum on Jun 20, 2019 5:58:47 GMT
Bere Alston (Devon), surely? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2019 9:10:10 GMT
Plymouth Drake. I like ducks.
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Post by John Chanin on Jun 20, 2019 9:31:53 GMT
Yeah, those are the best places Online for primary material. Best place in the real world would be the city archives, on the top floor of the Library of Birmingham. They have a huge map collection. I am fairly sure on investigating the map room, shorty after the opening of the new library, I actually found a map with these old constituencies on, something I was interested in, as I hadn't been able to make any sense of the changes in Birmingham just from electorates and present day maps, which is usually good enough. |
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Post by jacoblamsden on Jun 20, 2019 10:19:33 GMT
Bere Alston (Devon), surely? That's the one but both spellings have apparently been used. |
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 20, 2019 10:44:28 GMT
Barkston Ash would be a welcome return. Terrible name from a descriptive perspective, but sounds awesome. One of the old Wapentakes of the West Riding, as Langbaurgh was of the North Riding. In both cases, there are settlements of the same name - the former a small village and the latter a tiny hamlet. |
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Post by johnloony on Jun 20, 2019 13:01:27 GMT
Eye Rye Hythe Hyde South Molton Eton and Slough Isle of Thanet Isle of Ely Clay Cross Holland with Boston Ince The Hartlepools Houghton-le-Spring Barnard Castle Buckrose Barkston Ash Ross and Cromarty Biggleswade Cockermouth St Augustine's Osgoldcross East Looe St Germans Plympton Erle Beeralston Great Marlow Weobley That (with a bit of rearrangement) gives me an idea for a poem |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 20, 2019 13:12:06 GMT
oh no..
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Yaffles
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Post by Yaffles on Jun 20, 2019 13:18:30 GMT
Interesting to see which areas have roughly similar boundaries as they do today - Stoke and Hull spring to mind. |
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Post by Adrian on Jun 27, 2019 14:58:03 GMT
Indeed, although his final constituency was Birmingham Ladywood, and a seat of that name still exists today. The redrawn post-1970 seat, yes. The previous version's electorate had declined to one of the smallest figures of modern times (see the 1969 by-election for an illustration) The seat was won in 1969 and 1970 with 5,000 votes. Now I'm wondering how many examples there are since 1945 of English seats being won with less than 5,000 votes. |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 27, 2019 16:34:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2019 12:33:16 GMT
Barkston Ash
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Post by π΄ββ οΈ Neath West π΄ββ οΈ on Feb 22, 2020 14:55:09 GMT
You wonβt find many people in Bath who think it has the same vowel sound as trap. But crap isnβt crarp there must be some rule here unless it really comes down to where you grew up. It's an inconsistent rule, a nightmare for historical linguists, EFL students, and American actors trying to do British accents alike. Apart from where it precedes a silent letter (l as in calf, r (in non-rhotic dialects) as in farm), the broad a has only ever affected *some* of the words that have the phonetic environments in which it variably arises in English dialects, and the distinguishing feature is generally how common the word is. So we have: 1) words/syllables ending in -f, -th (-ΞΈ), or -s: - graph, but gaffe
- bath, but hath
- class, but crass
2) words/syllables ending in -f+stop (i.e. -ft) or -s+stop (i.e. -sp, -st, or -sk): - daft, but Taft
- clasp, but asp
- cast, but hast
- basket, but gasket
3) words/syllables ending in -n+dental consonant (i.e. -nt, -nd, -ns, or -nch (-ntΚ)) - slant, but scant
- slanders, but landers
- dance, but romance
- branch, but franchise
4) words ending in -mple (-mp(Ι)l)
5) words ending in -ther (-Γ°Ι(r))
6) the word "moustache"
Thankfully the similar fashion for some words defecting from having a short "o" to a broad "o" has more or less gorn orff now.
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Post by π΄ββ οΈ Neath West π΄ββ οΈ on Feb 22, 2020 15:45:56 GMT
Banffshire (because it was a totally ludicrous county anyway)
Bebington and Ellesmere Port
Bedwellty
Blaby (sod the Fifth Review, throwing out the Blaby with the bathwater)
Bothwell
Brighouse and Spenborough
Cambridgeshire (no compass points, because the Isle of Ely, Huntingdonshire, and the Soke of Peterborough are all counties)
Cannock (because more people live there than on Cannock Chase)
Christchurch and Lymington
Consett (because North West Durham sounds like it should be an area around Pity Me)
Dublin Rathmines
Erith and Crayford
East and West Flintshire (because the names Alyn and Deeside and Delyn are abominations)
"Kingston upon" in Hull constituency names
Londonderry City
Ormskirk
St Marylebone
Thornaby
Westminster Abbey
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Post by therealriga on Feb 25, 2020 19:23:07 GMT
Dublin Rathmines Londonderry City Both of which would likely be met with more than the usual pitchforks from the residents. Also, prior to restoring Dublin Rathmines, restoring the constituency of Dublin Harbour would be a more logical starting point. |
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Post by therealriga on Feb 25, 2020 19:31:33 GMT
Liverpool Scotland Manchester Wales Leeds Mongolia Sheffield Papua New Guinea Obviously, the last three never existed but, if going down that road, may I suggest renaming Stoke's southernmost two after constituent wards to give: (Stoke-On-Trent) Etruria. (Stoke-On-Trent) Dresden and Florence. |
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Post by bjornhattan on Feb 25, 2020 19:34:30 GMT
Liverpool Scotland Manchester Wales Leeds Mongolia Sheffield Papua New Guinea Obviously, the last three never existed but, if going down that road, may I suggest renaming Stoke's southernmost two after constituent wards to give: (Stoke-On-Trent) Etruria. (Stoke-On-Trent) Dresden and Florence. You could also have Rotherham Wales. |
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Post by froome on Feb 25, 2020 20:23:05 GMT
You wonβt find many people in Bath who think it has the same vowel sound as trap. Actually you will find quite a few. And as a resident, I certainly pronounce it with a short 'a'. |
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Post by Merseymike on Feb 25, 2020 20:39:45 GMT
You wonβt find many people in Bath who think it has the same vowel sound as trap. Actually you will find quite a few. And as a resident, I certainly pronounce it with a short 'a'. It's a long short A though . Baaaath but not Barth |
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Post by π΄ββ οΈ Neath West π΄ββ οΈ on Feb 25, 2020 22:11:38 GMT
Dublin Rathmines Londonderry City Both of which would likely be met with more than the usual pitchforks from the residents. Also, prior to restoring Dublin Rathmines, restoring the constituency of Dublin Harbour would be a more logical starting point. Oh, totally. And Rathmines was pretty much on the basis that its member was one of the few to bother to turn up in 1918. |
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Post by π΄ββ οΈ Neath West π΄ββ οΈ on Feb 25, 2020 22:13:12 GMT
Calais. Shocking omission so far.
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