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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2019 22:35:12 GMT
I was wondering when someone would say that. I disagree. I think that "Na h-Eileanan an Iar" captures the character of the constituency far better than the rather generic "Western Isles". It's not actually that difficult to pronounce either. Would you like to offer some guidance? Only if you tell me how to pronounce "Dwyfor Meirionnydd" in return
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 18, 2019 23:21:25 GMT
Lots of people mispronounce constituencies named in English - even simple names like Bath. (It rhymes with trap)
Also Newcastle upon Tyne - put the emphasis on the second syllable of Newcastle. But Newcastle-under-Lyme has emphasis on the first syllable.
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Post by yorkshireluke on Jun 18, 2019 23:33:59 GMT
Lots of people mispronounce constituencies named in English - even simple names like Bath. (It rhymes with trap) Also Newcastle upon Tyne - put the emphasis on the second syllable of Newcastle. But Newcastle-under-Lyme has emphasis on the first syllable. How on Earth do you mispronounce "Bath"??
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Post by syorkssocialist on Jun 19, 2019 0:14:33 GMT
Lots of people mispronounce constituencies named in English - even simple names like Bath. (It rhymes with trap) Also Newcastle upon Tyne - put the emphasis on the second syllable of Newcastle. But Newcastle-under-Lyme has emphasis on the first syllable. How on Earth do you mispronounce "Bath"?? 'Baath'
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Post by johnloony on Jun 19, 2019 0:25:30 GMT
Lots of people mispronounce constituencies named in English - even simple names like Bath. (It rhymes with trap) Also Newcastle upon Tyne - put the emphasis on the second syllable of Newcastle. But Newcastle-under-Lyme has emphasis on the first syllable. How on Earth do you mispronounce "Bath"?? David calls it "Bap", apparently
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Post by obsie on Jun 19, 2019 1:51:27 GMT
I was wondering when someone would say that. I disagree. I think that "Na h-Eileanan an Iar" captures the character of the constituency far better than the rather generic "Western Isles". It's not actually that difficult to pronounce either. Would you like to offer some guidance? Nə HELL-ən-ən an-EE-ərr, roughly, where ə is the unstressed schwa sound in butter, or, I think, y in Welsh.
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Post by londonseal80 on Jun 19, 2019 6:26:27 GMT
Dorking as Ashtead is in the Epsom and Ewell seat not Mole Valley so the seat isn’t really continuous with the Mole Valley district.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 19, 2019 7:23:37 GMT
Various names which have featured in constituency names in the past and which no longer do, which I would like to see at least have a mention: Wembley, Willesden, Paddington, Stepney, Chigwell, Sudbury, Woodbridge, Newmarket, Kings Lynn, Biggleswade, Gravesend, East Grinstead, Petersfield, Andover, Westbury, Tavistock, Torrington, Bodmin, Launceston, Cirencester, Evesham, Kidderminster, Leominster, Oswestry, Kingswinford, Oldbury, Bilston, Wednesbury, Smethwick, Aston, Bordesley, Sparkbrook, Stechford, Handsworth, Birmingham West, Burslem, Hanley, Leek, Ilkeston, Clay Cross, Carlton, Buckrose, Osgoldscross, Sheffield Neepsend, Dearne Valley, Elland, Barnard Castle, Whitehaven, Nelson & Colne, Ormskirk, Crosby, Huyton, Ince, Westhoughton, Farnworth, Droylesden, Knutsford, Northwich, Runcorn Widnes, Newton, Barry, Glasgow St Rollox, Forfarshire, Montrose district of burghs If we are restoring Clay Cross and Ilkeston how come no love for Belper? I couldn't be expected to remember everywhere - it was just a selection. Of course I'd bring back Belper. It would be a perfectly good name now for Mid Derbyshire
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Post by Antiochian on Jun 19, 2019 7:24:14 GMT
Various names which have featured in constituency names in the past and which no longer do, which I would like to see at least have a mention: Wembley, Willesden, Paddington, Stepney, Chigwell, Sudbury, Woodbridge, Newmarket, Kings Lynn, Biggleswade, Gravesend, East Grinstead, Petersfield, Andover, Westbury, Tavistock, Torrington, Bodmin, Launceston, Cirencester, Evesham, Kidderminster, Leominster, Oswestry, Kingswinford, Oldbury, Bilston, Wednesbury, Smethwick, Aston, Bordesley, Sparkbrook, Stechford, Handsworth, Birmingham West, Burslem, Hanley, Leek, Ilkeston, Clay Cross, Carlton, Buckrose, Osgoldscross, Sheffield Neepsend, Dearne Valley, Elland, Barnard Castle, Whitehaven, Nelson & Colne, Ormskirk, Crosby, Huyton, Ince, Westhoughton, Farnworth, Droylesden, Knutsford, Northwich, Runcorn Widnes, Newton, Barry, Glasgow St Rollox, Forfarshire, Montrose district of burghs Good to see Andover mentioned. Its bizarre that the much smaller Devizes has a seat named after it while Andover with nearly 50,000 people and the next largest population centre being 3-4,000 has to be inflicted with the bland NW Hants.
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Post by Antiochian on Jun 19, 2019 7:25:41 GMT
I would like to see Carnarvon Boroughs for obvious reasons...
How many boroughs did it have?
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Jun 19, 2019 7:43:14 GMT
If we are restoring Clay Cross and Ilkeston how come no love for Belper? I couldn't be expected to remember everywhere - it was just a selection. Of course I'd bring back Belper. It would be a perfectly good name now for Mid Derbyshire I like your principle but I might defend Cotswold over Cirencester; the Cotswolds does have a proper identity (unlike "Mid-Derbyshire" or "NW Hants") and as with Forest of Dean there are several similar-sized towns in it. I wouldn't die on Cleeve Cloud over it either way (especially as it's in Tewkesbury)
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Jun 19, 2019 7:45:14 GMT
How on Earth do you mispronounce "Bath"?? David calls it "Bap", apparently Confusing for bakers if he asks for a Bath bun, I imagine.
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Post by YL on Jun 19, 2019 8:00:16 GMT
Sheffield Attercliffe Edinburgh Pentlands district names in Glasgow Accrington Bridlington I like Isle of Ely, too, but as Lord Twaddleford said it doesn't really work for any current constituency. Liverpool Scotland Manchester WalesLeeds Mongolia Sheffield Papua New Guinea"Sheffield Wales" might actually be a possibility for a cross-borough constituency containing parts of the present Sheffield South East and Rother Valley.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 19, 2019 8:02:53 GMT
Lots of people mispronounce constituencies named in English - even simple names like Bath. (It rhymes with trap) Also Newcastle upon Tyne - put the emphasis on the second syllable of Newcastle. But Newcastle-under-Lyme has emphasis on the first syllable. How on Earth do you mispronounce "Bath"?? Some southerners think it's got an 'r' in it and say something like 'Barth'. All proper English speakers know it has the same vowel sound as 'trap'.
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Post by iain on Jun 19, 2019 8:13:56 GMT
You won’t find many people in Bath who think it has the same vowel sound as trap.
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Post by torremark on Jun 19, 2019 8:26:06 GMT
You won’t find many people in Bath who think it has the same vowel sound as trap. But crap isn’t crarp there must be some rule here unless it really comes down to where you grew up.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 19, 2019 9:19:19 GMT
I couldn't be expected to remember everywhere - it was just a selection. Of course I'd bring back Belper. It would be a perfectly good name now for Mid Derbyshire I like your principle but I might defend Cotswold over Cirencester; the Cotswolds does have a proper identity (unlike "Mid-Derbyshire" or "NW Hants") and as with Forest of Dean there are several similar-sized towns in it. I wouldn't die on Cleeve Cloud over it either way (especially as it's in Tewkesbury) Cirencester is considerably larger than any of the other towns in the district but I agree that Cotswold is a more acceptable name than some of the compass point ones
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Post by middyman on Jun 19, 2019 9:52:39 GMT
You won’t find many people in Bath who think it has the same vowel sound as trap. But crap isn’t crarp there must be some rule here unless it really comes down to where you grew up. No there doesn't! We are talking about English pronunciation here. As it happens, I use a long "a" (with the effect of a following "r") in "path". I would agree therefore that "Bath" and "path" have the same vowel sound, but not necessarily the same one.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2019 9:55:25 GMT
Bodmin Isle of Thanet
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Post by middyman on Jun 19, 2019 9:58:22 GMT
Eye.
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