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Post by The Bishop on Jul 5, 2013 13:42:20 GMT
LOL at that TUSC score - it is consistent with their showings in local elections, though!
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Post by Devonian on Jul 6, 2013 8:22:39 GMT
Survation/Mirror poll (4 July '13): LAB 36.0%, CON 22.8%, #UKIP 21.6%, LDEM 9.6%, GRN 4.3%, SNP 3.0%, BNP 1.1%, PC 0.4%, RES 0.2%, TUSC 0.1% I had wondered how much of the recent dip in UKIP polling numbers had been due to a decline in their publicity, due to dropping off the front pages, followed by not being prompted for. Now it would be wrong to read too much into one poll but IF this is accurate then it suggests that most if not all of the recent dip is down to this factor. This would bode well for UKIP in future as it would mean that at the moment where there is real life prompting for UKIP (e.g. a European election campaign, other events etc) they can expect to start from their high point in the May polls. Also note, as Mike Smithson has pointed out, before adjustment was made for don't knows UKIP were actually second in the poll and the Conservatives third.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2013 8:55:21 GMT
say we trust those figures then it shows the Crosby effect has had no impact at all. Does dog whistle politics really work in this day and age ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2013 16:50:33 GMT
The Tories would get somewhere if they stopped banging on about Europe to try and outflank UKIP. They can't outflank UKIP over Europe, all they're doing is diverting attention to UKIP's strongest ground which surprise surprise helps UKIP.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2013 20:17:55 GMT
It is immigration, the polls all show that but same principle applies you can not outflank UKIP over it because they are proposing something so unworkable it would damage the economy.
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Post by Devonian on Jul 13, 2013 20:34:53 GMT
Voting Intention*: LAB 36% CON 28% UKIP 20% LD 9% Others 7%. *Change versus our last poll? We have introduced an additional household income weighting in this poll, and so as a policy we do not make comparisons to previous polls when a methodology has changed – even for a minor change such as this. Voting Intention by Socio-Economic Group: Survation/MOS July 14th ALL ==> LAB 36% CON 28% UKIP 20% LD 9% AB ===> LAB 38% CON 33% UKIP 11% LD 11% C1 ===> LAB 33% CON 30% UKIP 19% LD 9% C2 ===> LAB 32% CON 29% UKIP 27% LD 7% DE ===> LAB 42% CON 17% UKIP 25% LD 7% survation.com/2013/07/lynton-crosbys-barnacles/survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Royal-Baby-Poll-Tables.pdf
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Post by Andrew_S on Jul 13, 2013 20:55:39 GMT
Voting Intention*: LAB 36% CON 28% UKIP 20% LD 9% Others 7%. *Change versus our last poll? We have introduced an additional household income weighting in this poll, and so as a policy we do not make comparisons to previous polls when a methodology has changed – even for a minor change such as this. Voting Intention by Socio-Economic Group: Survation/MOS July 14th ALL ==> LAB 36% CON 28% UKIP 20% LD 9% AB ===> LAB 38% CON 33% UKIP 11% LD 11% C1 ===> LAB 33% CON 30% UKIP 19% LD 9% C2 ===> LAB 32% CON 29% UKIP 27% LD 7% DE ===> LAB 42% CON 17% UKIP 25% LD 7% survation.com/2013/07/lynton-crosbys-barnacles/survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Royal-Baby-Poll-Tables.pdfLabour doing best with ABs and DEs as we've come to expect in recent years.
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Post by Devonian on Aug 3, 2013 20:07:03 GMT
Survation for The Mail on Sunday – Voting Intention (Change since July 13th) CON 28% (NC) LAB 36% (NC) UKIP 18% (-2) LD 11% (+2) AP 7% (NC)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2013 19:25:45 GMT
Mike Smithson @msmithsonpb New Survation poll for Mail on Sunday Changes from Aug 4 CON 29% (+1) LAB 37% (+1) UKIP 17% (-1) LD 11% =
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2013 21:08:25 GMT
been ages since we had one, presume will have VI
Mike Smithson @msmithsonpb Looks like there a really interesting Survation poll coming out for the Mail on Sunday
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2013 22:20:26 GMT
The Staggers @thestaggers New Survation/Mail on Sunday poll: Lab 37%, Con 27%, UKIP 18%, Lib Dems 11%.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2013 22:25:47 GMT
George Eaton @georgeeaton European elections poll puts UKIP 13 points behind Labour: Lab 35%, UKIP 22%, Con 21%, Lib Dems 11%, Greens 5%
Not sure I believe either poll
The GE one Tories are too low and Europeans UKIP too low and I would be delighted if we got 30% in the Euros never mind 35%
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 12, 2013 22:32:27 GMT
George Eaton @georgeeaton European elections poll puts UKIP 13 points behind Labour: Lab 35%, UKIP 22%, Con 21%, Lib Dems 11%, Greens 5% Not sure I believe either poll The GE one Tories are too low and Europeans UKIP too low and I would be delighted if we got 30% in the Euros never mind 35% IIRC polls for the Euro election are not usually reliable until just a few weeks before the election itself. Until then they tend to be unduly influenced by Westminster voting intentions.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Oct 14, 2013 13:08:32 GMT
I suspect at the moment it's most useful as a proxy for the prcentage of the electorate who would currently be open to voting UKIP in a general election.
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Post by erlend on Oct 14, 2013 15:49:53 GMT
Are you saying that is a ceiling. While if so I would add that not necessarily all would vote that way at the same time. The comparison might be to the early 80s figure of ca 51% for the Alliance.
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Oct 14, 2013 16:01:07 GMT
I don't think it's a ceiling, I think it is the percentage who would like to vote UKIP but are unconvinced it would be worthwhile. That strikes me as a very fluid number, as we saw most strikingly in the Eastleigh campaign.
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Post by Devonian on Oct 26, 2013 21:44:43 GMT
Survation @survation
New Survation Westminster Voting Intention 24/10 (Change since 13/10) CON 29 (+2) LAB 37(nc) UKIP 16 (-1) LD 10 (nc) AP 8 (+1)
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Post by Devonian on Oct 26, 2013 21:46:49 GMT
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The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Oct 27, 2013 12:22:13 GMT
Slightly confused by the above posts - Survation took two seperate polls?
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Post by Devonian on Oct 27, 2013 12:31:32 GMT
Slightly confused by the above posts - Survation took two seperate polls? Apparently so. That confused me as well. When I saw the figures on the website I noticed the vote change figures didn't match up, then I saw a reference to a 24 Oct poll but no details given. Then I spotted a mention of the 24 Oct figures an Survation's twitterfeed at the side of the page. Follow the link and you'll see what I mean. Very curious.
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