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Post by Tony Otim on May 15, 2019 20:22:43 GMT
By-Election:
NEATH PORT TALBOT UA; Resolven (Lab died) Candidates: FRANCIS, Mark Neal (Labour) HIPPSLEY, Andrew (Plaid Cymru) JONES, Jonathan Liam (Conservative) KINGSTON-JONES, Sheila (Liberal Democrat) LEWIS, Dean (Independent)
2017: Lab 461; Ind 388; PC 265 2012: Lab 729; PC 278 2008: Lab 611; PC 469 2004: Lab 729; PC 297
CURRENT COUNCIL: Lab 40 + this vacancy; PC 15; Ind 6 + 1 vacancy; LD 1
Deferred Election:
TENDRING DC, St Osyth (2 seats) Candidates: OSBEN, Tracey (Labour) SKEELS, Dawn Carole (Conservative) SKEELS, Mick (Conservative) TALBOT, Michael John (Independent) WHITE, John Frederick (Independent)
First election on new boundaries.
Results for old St Osyth & Point Clear Ward: 2015: Ind 1159, 1059; Con 635, 579, Lab 362, 273 2011: Ind 637, 633; Con 484, 394; Lab 361, 265 2007: Ind 507, 506; Con 507, 433; Lab 313, 308 2003: Ind 680, 655; Con 366
John White and Michael Talbot were elected in 2003, with White top. He then lost his seat in 2007 by 1 vote, before re-gaining it in 2011 and keeping it in 2015. Talbot has come top in every election since 2007. Tracey Obsen has stood here for Labour in every election since 2007.
Current Council: Con 16; Ind 8; Lab 6; UKIP 5; Tendring First 4; Holland on Sea & Eastcliff Matters 3; Tendring Independents 3; LD 2; 2 vacancies
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Post by timmullen1 on May 23, 2019 12:37:42 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 23, 2019 22:33:53 GMT
Resolven turnout 50.38%.
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Post by middleenglander on May 23, 2019 22:36:57 GMT
Does this give us a clue about the European election? Turnout in 2017 was 48%.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2019 22:37:01 GMT
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Post by greenhert on May 23, 2019 22:44:34 GMT
Does this give us a clue about the European election? A small clue, yes. However, the Independent's renown or lack thereof will also be a factor in terms of turnout.
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Post by middleenglander on May 23, 2019 22:46:24 GMT
Does this give us a clue about the European election? A small clue, yes. However, the Independent's renown or lack thereof will also be a factor in terms of turnout. Some 1,200 votes to count tonight.
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Chris from Brum
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Post by Chris from Brum on May 23, 2019 22:51:51 GMT
Does this give us a clue about the European election? Turnout in 2017 was 48%. Maybe, maybe not. They do have a wider choice of parties this time (eg. Tories and Lib Dems are standing unlike before) so more incentive to turn up and vote.
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Post by timmullen1 on May 23, 2019 22:56:12 GMT
Does this give us a clue about the European election? Turnout in 2017 was 48%. Maybe, maybe not. They do have a wider choice of parties this time (eg. Tories and Lib Dems are standing unlike before) so more incentive to turn up and vote. And just reading a thread on Twitter, Plaid seem to have put a fair amount of work in; whether or not that’s normal for them in that area I don’t know, but if, all of a sudden they’re visible, that again may bump an extra couple of percent on turnout.
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Post by andrew111 on May 23, 2019 22:59:52 GMT
Does this give us a clue about the European election? Turnout in 2017 was 48%. Maybe, maybe not. They do have a wider choice of parties this time (eg. Tories and Lib Dems are standing unlike before) so more incentive to turn up and vote. well, it would be a very unusual turnout for a local by-election so I think we can conclude it is Euro related but probably with all the local parties focusing their Euro campaign on these poor voters!
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Chris from Brum
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Post by Chris from Brum on May 23, 2019 23:01:24 GMT
Maybe, maybe not. They do have a wider choice of parties this time (eg. Tories and Lib Dems are standing unlike before) so more incentive to turn up and vote. And just reading a thread on Twitter, Plaid seem to have put a fair amount of work in; whether or not that’s normal for them in that area I don’t know, but if, all of a sudden they’re visible, that again may bump an extra couple of percent on turnout. Up until last time it had been a Labour v Plaid straight fight. Then an independent intervened and Plaid finished third. They may be sore about that, but it doesn't suggest a win for them.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 23, 2019 23:07:27 GMT
TENDRING St Osyth
TALBOT, Michael John (Independent) 856 WHITE, John Frederick (Independent) 850 SKEELS, Dawn Carole (Conservative) 437 SKEELS, Mick (Conservative) 430 OSBEN, Tracey (Labour) 177
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Post by timmullen1 on May 23, 2019 23:07:32 GMT
And just reading a thread on Twitter, Plaid seem to have put a fair amount of work in; whether or not that’s normal for them in that area I don’t know, but if, all of a sudden they’re visible, that again may bump an extra couple of percent on turnout. Up until last time it had been a Labour v Plaid straight fight. Then an independent intervened and Plaid finished third. They may be sore about that, but it doesn't suggest a win for them. To be fair the few people involved in the conversation I was lurking around weren’t really expecting a Plaid win, but were somewhat uncertain as it’s a very Brexit-y place, and there was a lot of “we’re voting for Farage” in the Euro election but those same people were undecided in the Council by-election.
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Post by andrea on May 23, 2019 23:09:04 GMT
Indy win in Neath. 699 votes out of 1179
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 23, 2019 23:10:47 GMT
If you use the averages method for St Osyth:
Ind 58.3% C 29.6% Lab 12.1%
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 23, 2019 23:20:31 GMT
NEATH PORT TALBOT Resolven
Said on Twitter to be:
LEWIS, Dean (Independent) 699 FRANCIS, Mark Neal (Labour) 293 HIPPSLEY, Andrew (Plaid Cymru) 121 JONES, Jonathan Liam (Conservative) 34 KINGSTON-JONES, Sheila (Liberal Democrat) 23
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Post by middleenglander on May 23, 2019 23:36:53 GMT
Neath Port Talbot, Resolven - Independent gain from LabourParty | 2019 votes | 2019 share | since 2017 | since 2012 | since 2008 | Independent | 699 | 59.7% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Labour | 293 | 25.0% | -16.3% | -47.4% | -31.5% | Plaid Cymru | 121 | 10.3% | -13.4% | -17.3% | -33.1% | Conservative | 34 | 2.9% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Liberal Democrat | 23 | 2.0% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | Previous Independent |
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| Total votes | 1,170 |
| 105% | 116% | 108% |
Swing not particularly meaning unless Independents are comparable; then Labour to Independent ~ 20% since 2017 Council now 40 Labour, 15 Plaid Cymru, 7 Independent, 1 Liberal Democrat (sitting with Independents), 1 Vacant Tendring, St Osyth - 2 Independents elected Party | 2019 "top" votes | 2019 "second" votes
| 2019 average votes | 2019 share | Independent | 856 | 850 | 853 | 58.3% | Conservative | 437 | 430 | 434 | 29.6% | Labour | 177 |
| 177 | 12.1% | Total votes | 1,470 | 1,280 | 1,464 |
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New seat Council now 16 Conservative, 8 Independent, 6 Labour, 5 UKIP, 4 Tendring First, 3 Tendring Independent, 3 Residents, 2 Liberal Democrat, 1 Foundation
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 24, 2019 11:46:03 GMT
Any news from St Mary's?
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Chris from Brum
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Post by Chris from Brum on May 24, 2019 11:57:21 GMT
Independent win, at a guess.
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Post by andrewp on May 24, 2019 11:58:35 GMT
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