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Post by Adrian on May 24, 2019 18:35:17 GMT
North Scotland
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Post by afleitch on May 24, 2019 19:13:59 GMT
Kill it with fire.
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Post by pepperminttea on May 24, 2019 19:26:47 GMT
I don't know if it still works due to shifting electorate numbers but when I had a go at Kent for 18 seats I put the boroughs into groups and allocated a number of seats to each group and I came up with: Dartford (1 seat)
-Dartford (72,180) Gravesham (1 seat)-Gravesend (70,477) - I think 'Gravesham' is a stupid name. Medway, Tonbridge and Malling (4 seats)-Rochester and Strood (69,576) -Gillingham and Rainham (68,890) -Chatham and Aylesford (65,492) -Tonbridge and Malling (68,399) Sevenoaks, Tunbridge Wells, Maidstone (4 seats)-Sevenoaks (70,735) -Tunbridge Wells (67,635) -Paddock Wood and Mid Kent (65,551) - Open for a name change -Maidstone (66,758) Swale, Canterbury, Ashford (4 seats)
-Sittingbourne and Sheppey (69,577) -Faversham and Whitstable (71,153) -Canterbury (69,463) -Ashford (72,879) Thanet, Dover, Folkestone and Hythe (4 seats)
-Isle of Thanet (67,102) - Or 'Margate and Broadstairs' if you'd prefer -Ramsgate and Deal (64,595) -Dover (62,604) -Folkestone and Hythe (64,022) I prefer names to be easy direct and simple Dartford Gravesend (Gravesham is very silly indeed and cinfusing) Rochester (no one needs to know about Strood) Gillingham (Rainham is of no consequence) Chatham (no one has heard of Aylesford) Tonbridge (the Mallings are of no consequence) Sevenoaks Tunbridge Wells Mid Kent (not ideal but no one knows insignificant Paddock Wood) Maidstone Sittingbourne (drop the unknown Sheppey) Faversham (don't confuse with other place names) Canterbury Ashford Margate (don't confuse with Thanet or other places) Ramsgate (don't confuse with Thanet or other places) Dover Folkestone (don't confuse with other places) Faverham is really the 'Mid Kent' but that long low straggle could be named Tenterden or after another ancient village of substance? Perhaps Upper Weald or North Weald? Then perhaps not? In fact these difficulties suggest it is not right in structure? That Faversham, Maidstone, Ashford and Tonbridge should be re-drawn to leave a more central Mid-Kent? I agree with some of those name changes and the commission does make the name unnecessarily long in places. But in my opinion when you have a constituency with two comparably sized towns the constituency name needs to include both of them especially if the seat crosses borough lines. Obviously if one town is really well known and the other completely unknown it will probably suffice to just include the well known town. As for the seat I named 'Paddock Wood and Mid Kent' I was really struggling to come up with a name because it basically consists of the rural part of Maidstone Council area (basically not Maidstone itself or most of built up area around it) as well the west of the Tunbridge Wells council area (everything to the west of and including Paddock Wood). The constituency is deeply rural and is mostly made up of small villages with Paddock Wood being the largest town (though Bearsted is a close second). Tenterden won't work seen as that town is still in the Ashford constituency and most of the seat isn't in the High Weald either as it stretches too far north. I don't think the seat needs to redrawn because it's quite coherent; it's just hard to name due to the lack of large towns and the lack of an obvious compass point to add after Kent... |
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Post by Adrian on May 24, 2019 19:27:59 GMT
Fife, Perth, Stirling
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Post by Adrian on May 24, 2019 19:37:58 GMT
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Post by pepperminttea on May 24, 2019 19:52:48 GMT
Why do you need any cross between Aberdeenshire and Moray at all? Aberdeenshire and Aberdeen together are fine for 5 seats (when I had a go at Scotland ages ago I even put Mearns into Angus as from the figures I was using Dundee East was too small at 61,421), though obviously I can't see the rest of your map. Then if you do this Moray can stay intact and Badenoch and Nairn can go back in the Inverness seat. Keep the seat you've called 'The North' the same and the rest of the Highland Council can be paired with the northern part of Argyll and Bute council area whilst Helensburgh and Lomond go into a seat with Dumbarton. |
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Post by Adrian on May 24, 2019 21:51:06 GMT
Argyll & Dunbartonshire
In answer to Peppermint Tea, I've added Lochaber to Argyll & Bute. Are you using the 2011 Law? i.e. larger constituencies? I'm using the old law. With an average seat size of 67,000 I can't see how I can add Nairn and Badenoch to the Inverness & Ross seat.
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Post by Adrian on May 25, 2019 9:17:56 GMT
Lothian, Lanarkshire, South
If East Lothian is regarded as too big (in addition to the changes needed to the Falkirk/Livingston seats), and whole wards are used as building blocks, quite a lot of changes are required. This map is only meant to be indicative of that, and various other arrangements are possible, especially once you start splitting wards.
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Post by The Bishop on May 25, 2019 9:26:35 GMT
Sorry mate, but that split of Lancaster is an abomination  It is, but it is the current situation and has been for over 20 years now Ah so it is, it somehow looked worse on that map. And as you say its not great as things stand  |
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Post by Adrian on May 30, 2019 13:53:45 GMT
Wales. Unlike the other constituent nations, the number of seats in Wales needs to be changed. I'm suggesting 32 seats, giving a quotient of 69,691. I also think that parliament would prefer Anglesey to have a single seat, so I'm giving it one. That leaves a quotient of 70,315 for the rest of the country. The upper and lower 15% limits would be 80,144 and 59,237. I've made Monmouth and Torfaen coterminous with the council areas, and kept the Vale of Glamorgan and Cardiff South seats unchanged. No seats cross the boundary between Glamorgan and Mid/West Wales. I'm reasonably happy with the plan I've come up with, though it is only indicative. There are some bad features, the worst being splitting the Rhondda valleys into separate seats. Naming some of the seats is tricky.
(2018 review electorates)
Ynys Mon 49,287
Gwynedd 65,685
Conwy 63,927
Rhyl & Colwyn Bay 74,226
Denbigh & Flint 71,402
Alyn & Deeside 74,882
Wrexham 71,009
North Powys 67,143
South Powys 62,827
Ceredigion & Preseli 71,090
Pembroke 66,404
Carmarthen 68,654
Llanelli 65,233
Gower 61,339
Swansea W 63,829
Swansea E 65,159
Neath & Port Talbot 75,830
Ogmore & Rhondda Fawr 59,781
Bridgend 76,030
Pontypridd & Rhondda Fach 68,174
Vale of Glamorgan 69,676
Cardiff W & Llantrisant 61,039
Cardiff N 72,465
Cardiff C 66,435
Cardiff S & Penarth 72,305
Merthyr & Aberdare 77,307
Blackwood 73,320
Blaenau Gwent 72,958
Caerphilly & Newport W 71,338
Newport E 68,667
Torfaen 66,153
Monmouth 68,267
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