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Post by finsobruce on May 6, 2019 21:27:27 GMT
Feel free to run with it Dok! I've been thinking of doing a rerun of the Best ward name though either would do. I'll need access to an up to date list of current wards and I've no idea where to get one... Or both!
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Post by poi on May 8, 2019 11:55:11 GMT
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Post by timrollpickering on May 9, 2019 11:23:26 GMT
Another mess are some of the county divisions that reference a mix of district names and settlement names, especially when the two are the same, but also a mixed approach across the county.
A by-election a few months back highlighted Kent's Canterbury divisions with separate "Canterbury North" and "Canterbury City North" and also "Canterbury South" and "Canterbury City South". As the whole district is "Canterbury City" or "City of Canterbury" it becomes rather confusing as to which is which (especially as there are parts of the city itself in both rural divisions). Just to add to the mess the divisions for Whitstable and Herne Bay namecheck the settlements not the district and there's a "Herne Village & Sturry" division where you'd expect to put the name "Canterbury North East".
Similarly "Dover North" and "Dover West" are rural hinterland around "Dover Town" yet "Folkestone West" and "Folkestone East" are Folkestone itself. By contrast Ashford, Maidstone and Tunbridge Wells all use the word "Rural" to distinguish hinterland areas.
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Post by jamie on May 11, 2019 16:49:03 GMT
Mansfield may win the award for overall performance. Most of the wards don't seem to be named after actual places but rather roads that start and begin in other wards. Sometimes a ward is named after a road that touches the edge of the ward where no one lives!
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 14:10:37 GMT
Any ward with the name 'without'. Such negative names.
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Post by hugh01 on May 12, 2019 18:33:32 GMT
Not a ward name as it’s included in Blaen Hafren electoral division on Powys CC,but the best named Community / Parish Council must be Llanidloes Without. It’s doughnutted around the town of Llanidloes but doesn’t include it,hence “without” www.llanidloeswithout.co.uk There must have been a better name for it somewhere |
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Post by timrollpickering on May 12, 2019 19:58:33 GMT
The first thing I saw was "Llanidloes Without Community".
Yes that's really inspiring me to go and visit.
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Post by casualobserver on May 13, 2019 5:27:25 GMT
Any ward with the name 'without'. Such negative names. "Without" was once usefully descriptive in placenames but is now something of an oddity, most unusually exemplified by the quaintly named City of London ward of "Bridge and Bridge Without": en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridge_Without .... Worth a read because of the number of strange facts about the old "Bridge Without" area - a ward that for its whole 349 years existence had no elections - a ward that for 79 years was geographically outside the jurisdiction of its own local authority - an area preserving to this day a plethora of otherwise extinct or near-extinct aspects of local administration: Court Leet; Manor; Bailiff; View of Frankpledge Jury with some superb surviving elected/appointed Officers such as the High Bailiff, Flesh Taster, Ale Conner, Affeeror, High Steward. A rare rural example of the survival of part of the ancient manorial system of local administration is to be found in Nottinghamshire: www.laxtonnotts.org.uk/Laxton%20manorial_system.htmTo get back on topic - some of our "strange" ward names give us a connection to our rich tapestry of local history - these are to be commended. Where, however, the LGBCE or its equivalent has just got it wrong, that is to be deprecated. |
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Post by Adrian on May 24, 2019 21:22:16 GMT
Yes, the "Without" names are great. Instead of "Without", some towns (eg. Kidderminster, Bloxwich) used the equally quaint "Foreign".
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Post by Sibboleth on May 24, 2019 21:23:59 GMT
Yes, the "Without" names are great. Instead of "Without", some towns (eg. Kidderminster, Bloxwich) used the equally quaint "Foreign". No, that's just what people in Kiddy and Bloxwich call anywhere more than a mile outside their respective towns. |
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Post by Andrew_S on May 24, 2019 21:25:01 GMT
I don't know if they still exist but there used to be some bizarre ward names in Cheshire a few years ago such as "Over One" and "Over Two". I never found out why they were named as such, or whether "Over" was a real place.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on May 24, 2019 21:26:51 GMT
Over is the name of a town (now subsumed in Winsford).
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Post by AdminSTB on May 24, 2019 21:32:24 GMT
I don't know if they still exist but there used to be some bizarre ward names in Cheshire a few years ago such as "Over One" and "Over Two". I never found out why they were named as such, or whether "Over" was a real place. Sounds suggestive. |
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Post by carlton43 on May 25, 2019 8:45:41 GMT
Yes, the "Without" names are great. Instead of "Without", some towns (eg. Kidderminster, Bloxwich) used the equally quaint "Foreign". There used to be a Rye Foreign in my youth. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 12:48:03 GMT
I've just realised how terrible a name "Kingswood" is in Stroud District. North Nibley is a much better known town in the same ward.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 13:05:32 GMT
Similar to 'without' and 'foreign', Romsey town in Hampshire is completely surrounded by the parish of Romsey Extra. Similarly, the rather quaintly named village of Ryme Intrinseca near Sherborne had a counterpart (nearer to Dorchester/Weymouth but part of the same manor) Ryme Extrinsica many hundreds of years ago.
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Post by Adam in Stroud on May 26, 2019 14:17:17 GMT
I've just realised how terrible a name "Kingswood" is in Stroud District. North Nibley is a much better known town in the same ward. It is not helped by the existence of Kingswood in South Glos. Surely North Nibley is in Wotton-Under-Edge? With Alderley and Tresham, and Hillesley in Kingswood ward. Not sure I can think of a good name for it, the main feature I associate with it is the long "secret valley" containing most of the villages - not sure what the stream is called. |
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Post by offshore on May 27, 2019 8:58:07 GMT
I've just realised how terrible a name "Kingswood" is in Stroud District. North Nibley is a much better known town in the same ward. It is not helped by the existence of Kingswood in South Glos. Surely North Nibley is in Wotton-Under-Edge? With Alderley and Tresham, and Hillesley in Kingswood ward. Not sure I can think of a good name for it, the main feature I associate with it is the long "secret valley" containing most of the villages - not sure what the stream is called. I would welcome a ward called Secret Valley. Part of Blyton District Council, I'd expect. |
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Post by jamie on Jun 1, 2019 19:13:56 GMT
Found a couple in Wakefield:
'Ackworth, North Elmsall and Upton' doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. 'Ackworth and Upton' would be fine.
'Wakefield Rural' is pretty awful. 'Crigglestone and Netherton' would be fine. Hell, 'Wakefield South West' would be an improvement.
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Post by londonseal80 on Jun 3, 2019 16:51:03 GMT
‘St Helier’ - Merton
Most of the Merton half of the St Helier Estate is in Ravensbury.
A more accurate name would be ‘Morden Park and St Helier West’
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