J.G.Harston
Lib Dem
Leave-voting Brexit-supporting Liberal Democrat
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jun 9, 2020 14:43:08 GMT
We have GEs in which the leaders are promoted as the party and people are asked to "Vote for Goblin" or whoever to be PM. TRhen the party that gets in changes their leader. Vote Cameron, get May. Vote May, get Johnson. Vote Johnson, get ?? Vote Swinson......
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 9, 2020 21:33:50 GMT
We have GEs in which the leaders are promoted as the party and people are asked to "Vote for Goblin" or whoever to be PM. TRhen the party that gets in changes their leader. Vote Cameron, get May. Vote May, get Johnson. Vote Johnson, get ?? Vote Swinson...... ................. Get the next Prime Minister.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2020 21:44:57 GMT
We have GEs in which the leaders are promoted as the party and people are asked to "Vote for Goblin" or whoever to be PM. TRhen the party that gets in changes their leader. Vote Cameron, get May. Vote May, get Johnson. Vote Johnson, get ?? That argument is cow sh*t and you know it. We do not have a presidential system. Prime Ministers changing between elections is part of the British political reality. Most of us vote in the knowledge that the Prime Minister could change at any time. I thought as a member of the HoL you would understand this. The 2011 Holyrood regional ballot read "Alex Salmond for first Minister" in the SNP box. I suppose you could argue that was more binding than any Conservative "leader based" campaigning He still resigned in 2014. Thank goodness the electorate are not as wilfully ignorant as you.
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Post by carolus on Jun 12, 2020 9:55:28 GMT
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Jun 12, 2020 10:13:11 GMT
Double figures!!
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Richard Allen
Banned
Four time loser in VUKPOTY finals
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Post by Richard Allen on Jun 12, 2020 16:24:19 GMT
You have benefited from the almost total absence of media coverage in recent months.
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Jun 12, 2020 18:43:14 GMT
You have benefited from the almost total absence of media coverage in recent months. I think I can guarantee almost total absence of media coverage for the next five years. Our march to victory is assured.
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Rural Radical
Labour
Now living in a Labour held ward at Borough level for the first time in many years
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Post by Rural Radical on Jun 12, 2020 19:09:25 GMT
You have benefited from the almost total absence of media coverage in recent months. I think I can guarantee almost total absence of media coverage for the next five years. Our march to victory is assured. Stay home and prepare yourself for Government 🤣
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 12, 2020 21:01:25 GMT
I think I can guarantee almost total absence of media coverage for the next five years. Our march to victory is assured. Stay home safe and prepare yourself for Government 🤣 FTFY.
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Rural Radical
Labour
Now living in a Labour held ward at Borough level for the first time in many years
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Post by Rural Radical on Jun 12, 2020 21:29:55 GMT
Stay home safe and prepare yourself for Government 🤣 FTFY. I was going to say “Stay Alert” but I thought it wouldn’t be as funny 😂
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Post by finsobruce on Jun 13, 2020 8:58:58 GMT
FTFY. I was going to say “Stay Alert” but I thought it wouldn’t be as funny 😂 They both work.
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Jack
Reform Party
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Post by Jack on Aug 6, 2020 14:17:45 GMT
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 6, 2020 18:23:16 GMT
Those are some very strange figures. You'd think Labour would capitalise on everything, but clearly people don't much like what they see at the moment. And the Green figure is odd too.
But these are strange times.
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Post by greenchristian on Aug 6, 2020 18:33:26 GMT
Those are some very strange figures. You'd think Labour would capitalise on everything, but clearly people don't much like what they see at the moment. And the Green figure is odd too. But these are strange times. We've been mostly polling in the 3-5% range for quite a while now. A jump from 3 to 5 in our polling probably indicates random variation around an accurate figure of 4%, and isn't very odd at all.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Aug 6, 2020 18:49:59 GMT
Those are some very strange figures. You'd think Labour would capitalise on everything, but clearly people don't much like what they see at the moment. And the Green figure is odd too. But these are strange times. We've been mostly polling in the 3-5% range for quite a while now. A jump from 3 to 5 in our polling probably indicates random variation around an accurate figure of 4%, and isn't very odd at all. I was thinking more that I'd have expected those drops in the Labour and LD share to have headed your way in larger numbers. Especially with the loud talk of Corbynistas leaving Labour.
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peterl
Green
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Post by peterl on Aug 6, 2020 19:15:30 GMT
Once the furlough scheme ends and the redundancies really start to pile up, the Tory figure will start to drop. Let's also not forget its summer, the weather is generally better, people are in a better mood. Another month or two, and I expect Labour to take the lead. As for the Green vote, the more talk there is of a Green recovery, and the more the government offers only crumbs, the more our support will grow.
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Post by greenhert on Aug 6, 2020 20:19:02 GMT
Those are some very strange figures. You'd think Labour would capitalise on everything, but clearly people don't much like what they see at the moment. And the Green figure is odd too. But these are strange times. Labour has been keeping the gap close since Sir Keir Starmer took office as Leader of the Opposition, though. However, the societal divisions exacerbated by Brexit still cut deeply when it comes to polling, which is why despite Boris Johnson's grossly inept handling of the coronavirus crisis the Conservatives' poll rating has not dropped below 40% so far this year.
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Post by No Offence Alan on Aug 6, 2020 20:36:56 GMT
Once the furlough scheme ends and the redundancies really start to pile up, the Tory figure will start to drop. Let's also not forget its summer, the weather is generally better, people are in a better mood. Another month or two, and I expect Labour to take the lead. As for the Green vote, the more talk there is of a Green recovery, and the more the government offers only crumbs, the more our support will grow. Mass unemployment due to fewer people flying, fewer people commuting. People will be getting a taste of what a greener world actually means and they won't like it.
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peterl
Green
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Post by peterl on Aug 6, 2020 20:45:38 GMT
A vast amount of redundancies are occuring in retail, restaurants, pubs, factories, all sorts of things the Green movement has no issue with. And some industries we actually support, such as public transport. A greener world will also lead to a lot of new jobs, from installing insulation and solar panels to making batteries for electric cars.
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J.G.Harston
Lib Dem
Leave-voting Brexit-supporting Liberal Democrat
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Post by J.G.Harston on Aug 6, 2020 20:50:44 GMT
Once the furlough scheme ends and the redundancies really start to pile up, the Tory figure will start to drop. Let's also not forget its summer, the weather is generally better, people are in a better mood. Another month or two, and I expect Labour to take the lead. As for the Green vote, the more talk there is of a Green recovery, and the more the government offers only crumbs, the more our support will grow. Mass unemployment due to fewer people flying, fewer people commuting. People will be getting a taste of what a greener world actually means and they won't like it. "Would you like to extend your free six-month taster trial of authoritarian socialism?"
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