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Post by finsobruce on Dec 16, 2019 7:07:19 GMT
The results are now coming thick and fast from 1838 Birmingham.
Hampton ward
Radical list
G V Blunt 159
J Meredith 159
H Jennings 157
Tory list
Pemberton 72
W H Bates 72
S Kempson 68
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 16, 2019 7:13:56 GMT
Birmingham Corporation elections December 26th 1838
St George's ward Radical listT C Salt 128 H Court 127 A Lawden 121 Tory list
R Hollis 109 J B Oram 106 Waddy 85 I have no idea if Mr Salt and Mr Waddy were relations of the famous Liberal MPs Titus Salt and Samuel Danks Waddy, but they were not from the same area of the country. |
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 16, 2019 7:16:18 GMT
Birmingham Corporation elections December 26th 1838St Paul's wardRadical listF Clark 162 J Hardman jnr 150 G Lucas 141 Tory listD Malins 129 Souter 128 Marshall 124
This is the one ward for which there is some commentary, the newspaper noting that the Tory Mr Malins was ahead at noon and hopeful of victory, but he was overtaken in the afternoon and all efforts to reverse the trend were unsuccessful.
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 16, 2019 7:34:14 GMT
Birmingham Corporation elections December 26th 1838
St Mary's ward
Radical list
S Beale 172
R C Mason 142
J H Cutler 140
Tory list
Phillips 35
S Allport 33
Here again a candidate was in both lists, in this case Mr Beale.
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 16, 2019 7:37:30 GMT
Birmingham Corporation elections December 26th 1838
Market Hall ward
Radical list
T Aspinall 173
T Clowes 163
T Bolton 163
Tory list
Warden 87
J B Payn 83
Thomas Perkins 78
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 16, 2019 7:53:37 GMT
Birmingham Corporation elections December 26th 1838St Peter's ward
Radical listR H Taylor 412 J Drake 283 W Schofield 282 W Harrold 281 C Geach 275 S Hutton 266 Tory listButler 218 Osborn 217 Westley Richards 210 W Phipson 210 Lucas 202
Mr Taylor seems to have been a very popular man running so far ahead of anyone else in this ward, but part of the explanation is that like Mr Beale and Mr Shakespeare he was on both the Radical and Tory lists.
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 16, 2019 8:06:22 GMT
Birmingham Corporation elections December 26th 1838
St Martin's ward
Radical list
J Rodway 110
T Phillips 108
T Weston 105
Tory list
T Hill 68
James James 66
F R Welsh 63
Let us pause for a minute to consider the cruelty of Mr James's parents.
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 16, 2019 8:09:00 GMT
Birmingham Corporation elections December 26th 1838
St Thomas's ward
Radical list
W Middlemore 199
J Sturge 144
W Pare 119
Tory list
Jos James 81
W Lucy 71
Once again the poll topper, in this case Mr Middlemore, was on both the Radical and Tory lists.
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 16, 2019 8:19:50 GMT
Birmingham Corporation elections December 26th 1838
Edgbaston ward
Radical list
C Sturge 180
C Schofield 179
H Van Wart 169
Tory list
R T Cadbury 109
S Halmes 100
J Ferreday 98
You'll have noticed a Cadbury in there, but perhaps surprisingly on the Tory list. This might be Richard Cadbury one of the two sons of the firm's founder George Cadbury.
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 16, 2019 8:26:08 GMT
Birmingham Corporation elections December 26th 1838
Deritend and Bordesley ward
Radical list
R Wigley 461
W Ingall 450
W Jenkins 446
J Hawkes 397
J Field 387
R Riley 385
Tory list
T Beilby 84
S Thornton 77
E Banks 68
I Marshall 26
W Sumner 24
T N Fuller 21
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 16, 2019 8:30:48 GMT
Birmingham Corporation elections December 26th 1838
Duddeston and Nechells wardRadical listJ Pierce 520 J Cornforth 512 Thomas Hickling 504 W Page 492 C Truman 496 F Page 489 Tory listW Gammon 452 J Haycock 444 Jos Robins 442 J Swingler 441 G J Green 427 W Cracklow 408 The paper noted for this ward that there was 'sharp running throughout the day'. Like you I noticed that the leading Tory candidate was a Mr Gammon. 
It's possible that the Mr Swingler here was some sort of ancestor of the Labour MP Stephen Swingler (Stafford 1945-50, Newcastle Under Lyme 1951-1969) - there are still Swinglers in Birmingham.
The newly elected councillors met the next day to decide how to appoint Aldermen. I can go into this if anybody really wants me to!
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Post by David Ashforth on Dec 16, 2019 9:52:59 GMT
Birmingham Corporation elections December 26th 1838St Paul's wardRadical listF Clark 162 J Hardman jnr 150 G Lucas 141 Tory listD Malins 129 Souter 128 Marshall 124 This is the one ward for which there is some commentary, the newspaper noting that the Tory Mr Malins was ahead at noon and hopeful of victory, but he was overtaken in the afternoon and all efforts to reverse the trend were unsuccessful.
Does this mean counting took place as the vote took place with interim results being declared? |
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 16, 2019 9:54:17 GMT
Birmingham Corporation elections December 26th 1838St Paul's wardRadical listF Clark 162 J Hardman jnr 150 G Lucas 141 Tory listD Malins 129 Souter 128 Marshall 124 This is the one ward for which there is some commentary, the newspaper noting that the Tory Mr Malins was ahead at noon and hopeful of victory, but he was overtaken in the afternoon and all efforts to reverse the trend were unsuccessful.
Does this mean counting took place as the vote took place with interim results being declared? Not officially - the voting would have been public, so people just recorded the totals as they went along. |
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Post by David Ashforth on Dec 17, 2019 19:06:44 GMT
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 22, 2019 9:38:32 GMT
It only just qualifies as it was listed in the London Evening Standard of 1st December 1900, and the elections would have taken place in November but ladies and gentlemen, for your delectation, here are the results for the 1900 elections to the London School Board.
The LSB was created as a result of the 1870 Elementary School Act and its main work was to provide primary schooling where provision did not currently exist, and to make sure that children were attending school with compulsion where necessary.
Interestingly the franchise included women. So in Inner London at least women did have the vote long before 1918, and were, from the beginning of the Board candidates for election and often elected as Board members. I might, work my way backwards from this one and do all of them at some point - it shouldn't be too difficult to find them.
That said my sister is dragging me to Oxford Street for some Christmas shopping so I might not get much done before I have to engage in the struggle against overwhelming odds. Back soon though!
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 22, 2019 9:59:17 GMT
1. London School Board Election 1900.
The London School Board had eleven districts at this point, electing five members each and going into this election the Progressives (basically the Liberals) had a majority over the Moderates (basically the Conservatives) with the usual support of some Independents and the odd Labour member : The Evening standard noted that the Labour nominee elected this time out "may be classed as a Progressive".
The City:
Mr W H Key (Moderate) 6,246
Canon Ingram (Moderate) 6,089
Mr T H Brooke-Hitching (Moderate) 5,953
Mr F W Buxton (Progressive) 4,404
Not elected:
Miss Ellen C McKee (Progressive) 4,327
Miss McKee actually lost her seat here "ungallantly left at the bottom of the poll", so the Moderates have made a gain of one straight off. The Standard also helpfully noted that the Progressive vote had halved and was also half the size of the moderate vote. It's possible that F W Buxton the successful Progressive candidate was Fowell Buxton one time Liberal MP for King's Lynn (1865-8) but he had only just returned from being Governor of South Australia so I don't think he could have been a sitting member at the time. I will investigate further.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 22, 2019 10:09:38 GMT
The School Board used the 'accumulative vote' system. Each elector had as many votes as there were seats in their district, but could choose to use multiple votes on individual candidates. This helped smaller groups because they would run only one candidate and still stand a chance of getting elected.
F.W. Buxton was Francis William Buxton, not Sir Thomas Fowell Buxton.
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Post by hullenedge on Dec 22, 2019 11:13:49 GMT
1. London School Board Election 1900. The London School Board had eleven districts at this point, electing five members each and going into this election the Progressives (basically the Liberals) had a majority over the Moderates (basically the Conservatives) with the usual support of some Independents and the odd Labour member : The Evening standard noted that the Labour nominee elected this time out "may be classed as a Progressive". The City:Mr W H Key (Moderate) 6,246 Canon Ingram (Moderate) 6,089 Mr T H Brooke-Hitching (Moderate) 5,953 Mr F W Buxton (Progressive) 4,404 Not elected:
Miss Ellen C McKee (Progressive) 4,327 Miss McKee actually lost her seat here "ungallantly left at the bottom of the poll", so the Moderates have made a gain of one straight off. The Standard also helpfully noted that the Progressive vote had halved and was also half the size of the moderate vote. It's possible that F W Buxton the successful Progressive candidate was Fowell Buxton one time Liberal MP for King's Lynn (1865-8) but he had only just returned from being Governor of South Australia so I don't think he could have been a sitting member at the time. I will investigate further. Brooke-Hitching is an 'interesting' character. Self-made man and...crook. Makes Sibthorp look pinkish. Made a speech during his 1906 campaign about the benefits of sending young children to work. Writs were flying back and forth. He splashed the cash and bombed. |
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 22, 2019 14:13:12 GMT
2. London School Board Election 1900 Chelsea:Prebendary Eardley-Wilmot (Moderate) 14,269 Mr S Black (Progressive) 13,751 Mrs Maitland (Progressive) 13,289 Hon F J N Thesiger (Moderate) 12,774 Mr W Thompson (Moderate) 12,008 not elected:Mr F G Jones (Progressive) 10,718 No change here; the two Progressives were sitting councillors, the three Moderates all apparently new. The Progressive who lost was put forward as a member of the Labour party. Prebendary Earnest Augustus Eardley-Wilmot was vicar of St Judes, South Kensington (1892-1919) and hilariousy to our eyes "Rural Dean" of Kensington in 1913. The parish no longer functions, parishoners being moved to St Mary the Boltons, while the church is one of the outposts of Holy Trinity,Brompton.
Thesiger became Lord Chelmsford in 1905 after the death of his father, and later the same year went to Australia following his appointment as Governor of Queensland, where he was involved in political controversy when the administration of William Kidston (who had formed a third party and taken most of the Labor members with him) had his programme defeated by the legislative council. Chelmsford refused to appoint extra members to overcome opposition, appointed the leader of the opposition, who was defeated and then granted a dissolution which saw Kidston returned to power. Chelmsford went on to become Governor of New South Wales in 1909, and Viceroy of India in 1919.
Jones appears to have been a member of the Social Democratic Foundation as he is recorded as speaking for Hyndman at public meetings.
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Post by finsobruce on Dec 23, 2019 0:43:28 GMT
3. London School Board Election 1900 Finsbury:Mrs Dibdin (Moderate) 13,759 Mr A J Mundella (Progressive) 11,725 The Revd E F Farrar (Progressive) 11,290 Miss Eve (Progressive) 11,155 The Revd R F Hosken (Moderate)10,873 Mr J W Sharp (Progressive)10,704 not elected:The Revd WH Thompson (Moderate)10,099 Mr A B Russell (Progressive)9,261 Mr W J Barwick (Ind) 4,617 Mr C Bowden (Ind Progressive) 405 The Evening Standard noted that a woman topped the poll for the second election running (previously it was Miss Eve). The A J Mundella here is the nephew of the famous Liberal MP for Sheffield, who had died in 1897.
Far from clerics being absent from politics as many these days apparently wish, they were all over the place in this election, and as much in the Moderate cause as the Progressive one.
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