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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 16:41:13 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 10, 2019 16:54:28 GMT
My understanding (nothing more concrete) is that sentencing will be tomorrow. It's not on the Court Listing. |
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jan 10, 2019 18:00:18 GMT
We have a declared SDP candidate We have a handful of Liberals on the forum, do we have any SDP-ers? |
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Post by AdminSTB on Jan 10, 2019 18:24:24 GMT
We have a declared SDP candidate We have a handful of Liberals on the forum, do we have any SDP-ers? None that I've been made aware of. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 19:51:43 GMT
My understanding (nothing more concrete) is that sentencing will be tomorrow. Interesting. Anyone got any views on the duration of her stay at Holloway........Coz that's where she is going? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 20:01:57 GMT
David is right. It isn't listed.
I think that makes it pretty unlikely, unfortunately.
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Post by robert1 on Jan 11, 2019 6:34:29 GMT
David and armchaircritic, thank for your clarifying re sentencing. I'm afraid I would have no idea where to look. Given your apparent knowledge of the processes involved, how much notice is normally given in such cases?
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Post by lbarnes on Jan 11, 2019 13:37:30 GMT
It reads: "Very interesting comments from Sheffield Hallam Labour Party member: “The seat was not identified as a marginal that would be worth fighting for. The regional Labour Party had decided that all fire should be concentrated on supporting the right-winger Angela Smith (who has called for Corbyn’s resignation a number of times and will undoubtedly do so again) in another Sheffield seat and directed volunteers from across Sheffield to that area. Hallam was effectively written off. Jared O’Mara has a very low profile, to put it mildly. He is a disability campaigner with cerebral palsy, ran twice – unsuccessfully – for the local council and is treasurer of the Sheffield City branch. He was installed clearly with the hope of running him as a mere paper candidate. But once local Momentum members and others on the Labour left heard that a fellow Corbyn supporter had been selected as the candidate, we pulled out all the stops to make it a successful campaign. It was an uphill struggle against the Labour bureaucracy: For days after the election was called there were no leaflets, no web presence, hardly any official support for the campaign. It was Momentum members who first got together with Jared to take some photographs of him, plan the campaign, and discuss how to make it as vibrant as possible. At times, we had to organise almost a parallel campaign to go around the official Labour structures. Sometimes it felt the bureaucracy was hell-bent on sabotaging the election and get as low a vote as possible: Right until the end, even volunteers from Hallam were encouraged to campaign in other areas. We were told not to drive around with a megaphone, that we could not produce specific leaflets to hand out outside schools and that we could not organise any public meetings or even a fundraising event. But we did most of those things anyway and some were eventually adopted by the campaign. The left really started to get its act together at a crucial campaign meeting a week after the snap election was called. Over a hundred people turned up and it became clear that a majority was not happy with the official mantra being put out by most of the local leadership that “Hallam could not be won”. Momentum supporters in the meeting disagreed and encouraged others to at least try and run a campaign to win the seat. I think we really got the ball rolling when Momentum organised a canvassing training session in Hallam at the beginning of May with a campaigner from Bernie Sanders’ team. For three hours we spoke about how important it is to actually talk to people, to try and convince them to vote for Labour. That sounds like an obvious thing to do, but the election agent - who came to the end of our session for a Q&A and to hand out material for the first canvassing session of the campaign – insisted that “everybody has to stick to the script!”. Of course, the so-called national “script” consists of nothing more than asking people on the doorstep which party they will vote for and which one they voted for last time (it’s called “Voter ID”). It is a hangover from the Blair years and needs to be gotten rid off. Clearly, if you want to build a real party of the working class, then speaking to people is a pretty basic necessity. Momentum’s fact sheet provided people with the arguments necessary to take on the Liberal Democrats over their U-turn on tuition fees, their responsibility for austerity, as well as their role in privatising a lot of services across Sheffield when they were the largest party in the local council. The video of our session, which really inspired a lot of people to go beyond Voter ID, is here. After that, the left continued to organise, mainly via email and Facebook (all Labour Party meetings were of course suspended). After initial scepticism, many lefties from across the whole region who had - somewhat incredibly - campaigned for Angela Smith, eventually joined us in Hallam and on polling day more than 200 people crammed into the campaign headquarter. Despite our well-known criticism of the Lansman coup that took place in Momentum, I have to admit that Momentum nationally has been most helpful. Once we told them that Hallam is indeed a marginal seat, they really pushed for members to come out and help (and surprisingly went against the wishes of the local Labour Party). I personally had half a dozen of phone calls and text messages telling me to get involved. In that sense, Jared O’Mara really is Momentum’s first MP. Can you imagine what kind of impact an organisation like Momentum could make it if it were a democratic, members-led campaign?" Next Steps - Meeting next Tuesday 13th June, 7pm start at Spiders Web, Carr Lane (bus stop outside or if you need a lift get in touch) Clearly that was before they heard a cockerel crowing. |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jan 11, 2019 16:50:35 GMT
It reads: "Very interesting comments from Sheffield Hallam Labour Party member: “The seat was not identified as a marginal that would be worth fighting for. The regional Labour Party had decided that all fire should be concentrated on supporting the right-winger Angela Smith (who has called for Corbyn’s resignation a number of times and will undoubtedly do so again) in another Sheffield seat and directed volunteers from across Sheffield to that area. Hallam was effectively written off. Jared O’Mara has a very low profile, to put it mildly. He is a disability campaigner with cerebral palsy, ran twice – unsuccessfully – for the local council and is treasurer of the Sheffield City branch. He was installed clearly with the hope of running him as a mere paper candidate. But once local Momentum members and others on the Labour left heard that a fellow Corbyn supporter had been selected as the candidate, we pulled out all the stops to make it a successful campaign. It was an uphill struggle against the Labour bureaucracy: For days after the election was called there were no leaflets, no web presence, hardly any official support for the campaign. It was Momentum members who first got together with Jared to take some photographs of him, plan the campaign, and discuss how to make it as vibrant as possible. At times, we had to organise almost a parallel campaign to go around the official Labour structures. Sometimes it felt the bureaucracy was hell-bent on sabotaging the election and get as low a vote as possible: Right until the end, even volunteers from Hallam were encouraged to campaign in other areas. We were told not to drive around with a megaphone, that we could not produce specific leaflets to hand out outside schools and that we could not organise any public meetings or even a fundraising event. But we did most of those things anyway and some were eventually adopted by the campaign. The left really started to get its act together at a crucial campaign meeting a week after the snap election was called. Over a hundred people turned up and it became clear that a majority was not happy with the official mantra being put out by most of the local leadership that “Hallam could not be won”. Momentum supporters in the meeting disagreed and encouraged others to at least try and run a campaign to win the seat. I think we really got the ball rolling when Momentum organised a canvassing training session in Hallam at the beginning of May with a campaigner from Bernie Sanders’ team. For three hours we spoke about how important it is to actually talk to people, to try and convince them to vote for Labour. That sounds like an obvious thing to do, but the election agent - who came to the end of our session for a Q&A and to hand out material for the first canvassing session of the campaign – insisted that “everybody has to stick to the script!”. Of course, the so-called national “script” consists of nothing more than asking people on the doorstep which party they will vote for and which one they voted for last time (it’s called “Voter ID”). It is a hangover from the Blair years and needs to be gotten rid off. Clearly, if you want to build a real party of the working class, then speaking to people is a pretty basic necessity. Momentum’s fact sheet provided people with the arguments necessary to take on the Liberal Democrats over their U-turn on tuition fees, their responsibility for austerity, as well as their role in privatising a lot of services across Sheffield when they were the largest party in the local council. The video of our session, which really inspired a lot of people to go beyond Voter ID, is here. After that, the left continued to organise, mainly via email and Facebook (all Labour Party meetings were of course suspended). After initial scepticism, many lefties from across the whole region who had - somewhat incredibly - campaigned for Angela Smith, eventually joined us in Hallam and on polling day more than 200 people crammed into the campaign headquarter. Despite our well-known criticism of the Lansman coup that took place in Momentum, I have to admit that Momentum nationally has been most helpful. Once we told them that Hallam is indeed a marginal seat, they really pushed for members to come out and help (and surprisingly went against the wishes of the local Labour Party). I personally had half a dozen of phone calls and text messages telling me to get involved. In that sense, Jared O’Mara really is Momentum’s first MP. Can you imagine what kind of impact an organisation like Momentum could make it if it were a democratic, members-led campaign?" Next Steps - Meeting next Tuesday 13th June, 7pm start at Spiders Web, Carr Lane (bus stop outside or if you need a lift get in touch) Clearly that was before they heard a cockerel crowing. Good luck sorting out the Return of Election Expenses paperwork for such an arrangement ... |
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Jan 16, 2019 12:22:59 GMT
Was it her, or some Russian bloke?
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Post by Chris from Brum on Jan 16, 2019 13:55:44 GMT
Any news on sentencing?
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Post by LDCaerdydd on Jan 16, 2019 13:59:34 GMT
Was it her, or some Russian bloke? And how quick did she get in and out of the lobby? |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 16, 2019 14:25:17 GMT
Was it her, or some Russian bloke? Or Jesus? |
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Post by Rutlander on Jan 16, 2019 19:38:59 GMT
Local paper is reporting that Onasanya to be sentenced on January 29 at the Old Bailey
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 16, 2019 19:45:02 GMT
Local paper is reporting that Onasanya to be sentenced on January 29 at the Old Bailey Just had another e-mail from Peterborough Labour party asking for help this weekend... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 19:49:20 GMT
Local paper is reporting that Onasanya to be sentenced on January 29 at the Old Bailey Just had another e-mail from Peterborough Labour party asking for help this weekend... wheres mine  |
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 16, 2019 19:52:37 GMT
Just had another e-mail from Peterborough Labour party asking for help this weekend... wheres mine I can forward it on if you're desperate to go  . The constituency I live in is on a direct train line to Peterborough which is maybe why they are hitting us first. |
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Post by syorkssocialist on Jan 16, 2019 20:15:09 GMT
wheres mine I can forward it on if you're desperate to go . The constituency I live in is on a direct train line to Peterborough which is maybe why they are hitting us first. That could be it, I'm in Doncaster and have received the email. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 20:21:59 GMT
wheres mine I can forward it on if you're desperate to go . The constituency I live in is on a direct train line to Peterborough which is maybe why they are hitting us first. i do miss being on the Birmingham to Cambridge line |
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Post by mondialito on Jan 16, 2019 21:08:18 GMT
I got it too. I'm not planning to go.
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. The constituency I live in is on a direct train line to Peterborough which is maybe why they are hitting us first. 
