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Post by lbarnes on Jan 8, 2019 19:11:25 GMT
Actually the main point is that those disavowing O'Mara from Momentum and the hard left didn't do so before the scandals but have been desperate to since. In which case it's a bizarre point. What was there to disavow before the scandals? The most notable thing about him prior to those was his defeat of Nick Clegg, hardly something to disavow from any form of Labour perspective. i There was no attempt by Momentum to disassociate or distance their views from those of O'Mara before the scandals, now there's a queue. |
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Post by pragmaticidealist on Jan 8, 2019 19:33:16 GMT
In which case it's a bizarre point. What was there to disavow before the scandals? The most notable thing about him prior to those was his defeat of Nick Clegg, hardly something to disavow from any form of Labour perspective. i There was no attempt by Momentum to disassociate or distance their views from those of O'Mara before the scandals, now there's a queue. I'm starting to suspect that you might not pass the Turing test. |
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Post by Tony Otim on Jan 8, 2019 21:14:10 GMT
Yes, the main point is that O'Mara is not primarily known for his Momentumism or whatever, but for the unfortunate scandal. The post I initially replied to mentioned O'Mara, Onasanya and Williamson; only the third of those is best known for holding hard left views. Williamson is best known for being a fucking idiot. I thought he was best known for being the country's only unelected MP for 2 years... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 21:48:15 GMT
In which case it's a bizarre point. What was there to disavow before the scandals? The most notable thing about him prior to those was his defeat of Nick Clegg, hardly something to disavow from any form of Labour perspective. i There was no attempt by Momentum to disassociate or distance their views from those of O'Mara before the scandals, now there's a queue. youve clearly never been to Sheffield |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 21:49:20 GMT
Yes, the main point is that O'Mara is not primarily known for his Momentumism or whatever, but for the unfortunate scandal. The post I initially replied to mentioned O'Mara, Onasanya and Williamson; only the third of those is best known for holding hard left views. Williamson is best known for being a fucking idiot. that's a bit harsh I know a coalition with the blue team is idiotic but still |
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Post by lbarnes on Jan 9, 2019 1:10:49 GMT
i There was no attempt by Momentum to disassociate or distance their views from those of O'Mara before the scandals, now there's a queue. I'm starting to suspect that you might not pass the Turing test. I think I'd pass with flying colours. O'Mara stated in two sets of local elections that he supported Momentum. In turn they claimed him as a supporter in 2017. That seems to be pretty clear. They ferried people in, ran training sessions in his constituency for his campaign as well as a phone bank. But when he passes the true Momentum test by turning out to be a nasty little bigot they run a mile. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 10:50:29 GMT
I'm starting to suspect that you might not pass the Turing test. I think I'd pass with flying colours. O'Mara stated in two sets of local elections that he supported Momentum. In turn they claimed him as a supporter in 2017. That seems to be pretty clear. They ferried people in, ran training sessions in his constituency for his campaign as well as a phone bank. But when he passes the true Momentum test by turning out to be a nasty little bigot they run a mile. ofc you would. Have you tries the true momentum test? OMara along with other Labour candidates in Ecclesfield are the reason Labour lost seats to UKIP and everyone who knew OMara would tell you what he was like |
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Post by john07 on Jan 9, 2019 11:15:12 GMT
Williamson is best known for being a fucking idiot. That’s a tad unfair. He may look like an idiot and sound like an idiot, but don’t let that fool you, he really is an idiot. But only an ‘ordinary’ idiot, not a ‘fucking’ idiot. (With apologies to Groucho Marx) |
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Post by Rutlander on Jan 9, 2019 11:34:55 GMT
We have a declared SDP candidate To quibble, the Tweet says there will be a continuity SDP candidate, not that O'Flynn himself will be standing. (Also, a SDP candidate is standing in the aldermanic election for Billingsgate ward of the City of London on 31st January.) |
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Post by greenhert on Jan 9, 2019 11:38:37 GMT
We have a declared SDP candidate The first in any by-election since the Newbury by-election of 1993.
For the record, the SDP candidate in said Newbury by-election, Alan Page, polled a miserable 33 votes finishing third last out of 19 candidates.
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Post by lbarnes on Jan 9, 2019 16:13:02 GMT
I think I'd pass with flying colours. O'Mara stated in two sets of local elections that he supported Momentum. In turn they claimed him as a supporter in 2017. That seems to be pretty clear. They ferried people in, ran training sessions in his constituency for his campaign as well as a phone bank. But when he passes the true Momentum test by turning out to be a nasty little bigot they run a mile. ofc you would. Have you tries the true momentum test? OMara along with other Labour candidates in Ecclesfield are the reason Labour lost seats to UKIP and everyone who knew OMara would tell you what he was like What a pity that they didn't then. You now seem to be saying that they knew him for what he was and still supported him. I can definitely believe that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 16:24:38 GMT
ofc you would. Have you tries the true momentum test? OMara along with other Labour candidates in Ecclesfield are the reason Labour lost seats to UKIP and everyone who knew OMara would tell you what he was like What a pity that they didn't then. You now seem to be saying that they knew him for what he was and still supported him. I can definitely believe that. no they really didn't |
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Post by lbarnes on Jan 9, 2019 21:56:47 GMT
What a pity that they didn't then. You now seem to be saying that they knew him for what he was and still supported him. I can definitely believe that. no they really didn't First you say they did and now that they really didn't. It seems that they knew exactly what he was like but supported him despite/because of it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 22:11:45 GMT
First you say they did and now that they really didn't. It seems that they knew exactly what he was like but supported him despite/because of it. sorry I'm not aware I ever said they did. You did. |
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Post by lbarnes on Jan 9, 2019 23:00:15 GMT
First you say they did and now that they really didn't. It seems that they knew exactly what he was like but supported him despite/because of it. sorry I'm not aware I ever said they did. You did. "OMara along with other Labour candidates in Ecclesfield are the reason Labour lost seats to UKIP and everyone who knew OMara would tell you what he was like" Read more: vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/12019/peterborough?page=18#ixzz5c9cKngg9" |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 7:10:40 GMT
they knew him they didn't campaign for him |
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Post by lbarnes on Jan 10, 2019 14:39:32 GMT
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Post by robert1 on Jan 10, 2019 15:03:07 GMT
My understanding (nothing more concrete) is that sentencing will be tomorrow.
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