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Post by lbarnes on Jan 7, 2019 23:43:09 GMT
As a member in Sheffield O'Mara as far as I'm aware wasn't associated with momentum or the left of the party t It seems odd that Momentum would claim him as one of their own then. They bussed loads of people in to help, ran a huge phone bank for him as well as lots of training sessions that were posted. Plus he's an ignorant racist, so fits the bill perfectly. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 0:04:56 GMT
As a member in Sheffield O'Mara as far as I'm aware wasn't associated with momentum or the left of the party t It seems odd that Momentum would claim him as one of their own then. They bussed loads of people in to help, ran a huge phone bank for him as well as lots of training sessions that were posted. Plus he's an ignorant racist, so fits the bill perfectly. Did they? I used Momentum's Nearest Marginal & their online phone bank. I was sent to Derby, Corby, Leicester, etc. I called people in Bristol, Crewe, Cambridge, etc. Never sent to help Jared though. Yes that's us we're all racists in Momentum... |
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Post by lbarnes on Jan 8, 2019 3:41:00 GMT
t It seems odd that Momentum would claim him as one of their own then. They bussed loads of people in to help, ran a huge phone bank for him as well as lots of training sessions that were posted. Plus he's an ignorant racist, so fits the bill perfectly. Did they? I used Momentum's Nearest Marginal & their online phone bank. I was sent to Derby, Corby, Leicester, etc. I called people in Bristol, Crewe, Cambridge, etc. Never sent to help Jared though. Yes that's us we're all racists in Momentum... |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jan 8, 2019 8:18:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 9:14:34 GMT
must not have been invited to that one. Clearly bused everyone in but me |
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 8, 2019 9:20:28 GMT
must not have been invited to that one. Clearly bused everyone in but me Try not to take it personally.  |
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Post by Merseymike on Jan 8, 2019 10:47:30 GMT
A lot of people claim a lot of things. Along with the majority he voted for Corbyn as leader but was not particularly associated with Momentum as he says himself. And we really didn't expect to win Hallam given our failure to do so in 2015. |
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Post by yellowperil on Jan 8, 2019 10:56:03 GMT
On Mike Leigh, I've been a fan of his since the days of Nuts in May (now there's a title to make the most of on this forum)through Abigail's Party and all the way to Turner and Peterloo ( my first visit to an actual cinema since Turner, I think). Agree with Carlton that the Spall performance as Turner was something of a tour de force, but as a whole liked it less than any other Leigh film I have seen because I thought the setting, allegedly Margate and looking more like somewhere in Cornwall, was pretty preposterous, and I found that distracting. Peterloo I thought reasonably politically balanced, rather to my surprise, but I wouldn't make it the basis of my political thinking in 2019.
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Post by The Bishop on Jan 8, 2019 11:37:07 GMT
A lot of people claim a lot of things This, basically. Other first-time MPs were elected at that GE who were much better known as confirmed Corbyn/Momentum supporters well in advance. "Claims" do not alter that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 12:22:38 GMT
must not have been invited to that one. Clearly bused everyone in but me Try not to take it personally. never  |
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Post by lbarnes on Jan 8, 2019 13:05:42 GMT
must not have been invited to that one. Clearly bused everyone in but me That's not the point. O'Mara says he was a Momentum supporter, in that link Momentum also say he was. You say he wasn't. I know who I believe. |
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Post by pragmaticidealist on Jan 8, 2019 13:26:41 GMT
A lot of people claim a lot of things This, basically. Other first-time MPs were elected at that GE who were much better known as confirmed Corbyn/Momentum supporters well in advance. "Claims" do not alter that. Yes, the main point is that O'Mara is not primarily known for his Momentumism or whatever, but for the unfortunate scandal. The post I initially replied to mentioned O'Mara, Onasanya and Williamson; only the third of those is best known for holding hard left views. |
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Post by Merseymike on Jan 8, 2019 13:34:33 GMT
This, basically. Other first-time MPs were elected at that GE who were much better known as confirmed Corbyn/Momentum supporters well in advance. "Claims" do not alter that. Yes, the main point is that O'Mara is not primarily known for his Momentumism or whatever, but for the unfortunate scandal. The post I initially replied to mentioned O'Mara, Onasanya and Williamson; only the third of those is best known for holding hard left views. And even he is something of a maverick - too much so to hold a shadow post. |
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Post by lbarnes on Jan 8, 2019 13:36:36 GMT
This, basically. Other first-time MPs were elected at that GE who were much better known as confirmed Corbyn/Momentum supporters well in advance. "Claims" do not alter that. Yes, the main point is that O'Mara is not primarily known for his Momentumism or whatever, but for the unfortunate scandal. The post I initially replied to mentioned O'Mara, Onasanya and Williamson; only the third of those is best known for holding hard left views. Actually the main point is that those disavowing O'Mara from Momentum and the hard left didn't do so before the scandals but have been desperate to since. |
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Post by casualobserver on Jan 8, 2019 13:49:08 GMT
Trying to getback on topic:
Helpful local press guide on how to get rid of Fiona Onasanya:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 13:50:17 GMT
must not have been invited to that one. Clearly bused everyone in but me That's not the point. O'Mara says he was a Momentum supporter, in that link Momentum also say he was. You say he wasn't. I know who I believe. Good for you mate |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 13:52:06 GMT
Yes, the main point is that O'Mara is not primarily known for his Momentumism or whatever, but for the unfortunate scandal. The post I initially replied to mentioned O'Mara, Onasanya and Williamson; only the third of those is best known for holding hard left views. Actually the main point is that those disavowing O'Mara from Momentum and the hard left didn't do so before the scandals but have been desperate to since. they did in Sheffield |
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Post by pragmaticidealist on Jan 8, 2019 14:01:27 GMT
Yes, the main point is that O'Mara is not primarily known for his Momentumism or whatever, but for the unfortunate scandal. The post I initially replied to mentioned O'Mara, Onasanya and Williamson; only the third of those is best known for holding hard left views. Actually the main point is that those disavowing O'Mara from Momentum and the hard left didn't do so before the scandals but have been desperate to since. In which case it's a bizarre point. What was there to disavow before the scandals? The most notable thing about him prior to those was his defeat of Nick Clegg, hardly something to disavow from any form of Labour perspective. |
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Post by maxque on Jan 8, 2019 15:13:14 GMT
Yes, the main point is that O'Mara is not primarily known for his Momentumism or whatever, but for the unfortunate scandal. The post I initially replied to mentioned O'Mara, Onasanya and Williamson; only the third of those is best known for holding hard left views. Actually the main point is that those disavowing O'Mara from Momentum and the hard left didn't do so before the scandals but have been desperate to since. Why would you disavow someone claiming to support you before the scandals? |
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Jan 8, 2019 16:26:10 GMT
This, basically. Other first-time MPs were elected at that GE who were much better known as confirmed Corbyn/Momentum supporters well in advance. "Claims" do not alter that. Yes, the main point is that O'Mara is not primarily known for his Momentumism or whatever, but for the unfortunate scandal. The post I initially replied to mentioned O'Mara, Onasanya and Williamson; only the third of those is best known for holding hard left views. Williamson is best known for being a fucking idiot. |
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