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Post by gwynthegriff on Jan 6, 2019 18:36:49 GMT
So, you've not seen it either, you heartless bastard. I bet you went to Peterloo and cheered for the Yeomanry.Do you mean at the cinema or at the actual demonstration?  No cinema on the Ardnamurchan Peninsula, so ... |
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Post by gwynthegriff on Jan 6, 2019 18:39:28 GMT
Presumably, in the weird world of Corbynite Labour, getting one of your staff to post that you're "currently watching I Daniel Blake, a searing indictment of the Tory benefit regime" [even if you're actually catching up on parliamentary reading/ having a nice family dinner] = brownie points. Not watching IDB, or watching it but failing to make a fuss about it on your timeline, = no brownie points. It is creepy watching MPs being "scored" for doing the right thing, that film has become some kind of sacred text. |
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Post by johnloony on Jan 6, 2019 18:43:29 GMT
So, you've not seen it either, you heartless bastard. I bet you went to Peterloo and cheered for the Yeomanry.Do you mean at the cinema or at the actual demonstration? The actual, obviously |
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 6, 2019 18:45:40 GMT
Do you mean at the cinema or at the actual demonstration? The actual, obviously Does anyone else remember an American tv series from the 70s called "You are there"? Consisted of recreations of historic events with tv reporters interviewing the participants. IIRC |
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Post by Merseymike on Jan 6, 2019 18:52:01 GMT
Also a big no thanks to Chris Williamson. He's clearly unsuitable to be on the front bench. And TBH probably to be in the Labour Party at all. He's a Johnny-come-lately apparent convert to left-wing socialism and dallies with dangerous anti-Semites such as Vanessa Beeley & Scott Nelson. One more thing out of him & I'll be calling for him to be suspended, at least. There I've said it. Disagree entirely but then we have very fundamental disagreements on Israel. I don't support your stance at all. |
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Post by johnloony on Jan 6, 2019 18:52:26 GMT
I don't understand what that means. It looks like a perfectly normal statement but I can't fathom it. What is the point being made? The hystericalism of Twitter is that somebody has stated that they have checked various people's tweets to check whether they have watched a particular film, but then did not reveal the result of that search. The implication (which we are supposed to deduce by means of a complex process of thoughtcrime and doublethink) is that the abovementioned people have not stated that they watched the film, therefore they did not watch it (their ideological purity would have compelled them to say so explicitly if they had), therefore they are evil revisionist Blairite right-wing extremist saboteurs who are engaged in a secret conspiracy to exterminate all welfare claimants, instead of adhering to pure Corbynism. Twitter tends to be like that anyway, regardless of whether it's about Corbyn or whatever. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2019 18:59:30 GMT
Also a big no thanks to Chris Williamson. He's clearly unsuitable to be on the front bench. And TBH probably to be in the Labour Party at all. He's a Johnny-come-lately apparent convert to left-wing socialism and dallies with dangerous anti-Semites such as Vanessa Beeley & Scott Nelson. One more thing out of him & I'll be calling for him to be suspended, at least. There I've said it. He’s almost as awful as David Ward.  |
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Post by Merseymike on Jan 6, 2019 19:48:26 GMT
Twitter tends to be like that anyway, regardless of whether it's about Corbyn or whatever. Exactly. It's why I will never join it. It brings out the very worst sort of simplistic hysteria across ideological lines. Take the FBPE crowd who make centrism appear anything other than moderate. |
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Post by timmullen1 on Jan 6, 2019 20:37:58 GMT
Twitter tends to be like that anyway, regardless of whether it's about Corbyn or whatever. Exactly. It's why I will never join it. It brings out the very worst sort of simplistic hysteria across ideological lines. Take the FBPE crowd who make centrism appear anything other than moderate. It’s quite useful on a Thursday night for getting by-election results |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2019 21:10:56 GMT
Exactly. It's why I will never join it. It brings out the very worst sort of simplistic hysteria across ideological lines. Take the FBPE crowd who make centrism appear anything other than moderate. It’s quite useful on a Thursday night for getting by-election results That's the only reason I ever visit it anymore, haven't tweeted in yonks. My 20 followers are very dedicated though. |
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Post by carlton43 on Jan 6, 2019 21:55:05 GMT
It is creepy watching MPs being "scored" for doing the right thing, that film has become some kind of sacred text. Oh dear again! I mentioned Mike Leigh above and should have written Ken Loach. not keen on either, but it was Loach I meant. |
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 6, 2019 21:58:35 GMT
"Ken Loach, Peace be upon him" Oh dear again! I mentioned Mike Leigh above and should have written Ken Loach. not keen on either, but it was Loach I meant. i did wonder. Mike Leigh has made some very enjoyable films, particularly "Topsy Turvey" about Gilbert and Sullivan. I also like the one about Turner, although I understand a lot of people didn't rate it. |
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Post by neilm on Jan 6, 2019 21:59:01 GMT
Out of interest, which Labour frontbenchers in 1997 had ministerial experience? I can think of Margaret Beckett, Jack Cunningham, Gavin Strang and Lord Gilbert. John Morris (Aberavon) Held office under Wilson too. I knew there was someone but couldn't remember. Anyone else? |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 6, 2019 22:04:05 GMT
Ivor Richard - appointed Lord Privy Seal and Leader of the House of Lords, had served in the Wilson government in 1969-70 as a junior Defence minister.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jan 6, 2019 22:07:11 GMT
There was one other member of the incoming Blair government in 1997 who had previously been a Minister: Alan Howarth.
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 6, 2019 22:10:58 GMT
i did wonder. Mike Leigh has made some very enjoyable films, particularly "Topsy Turvey" about Gilbert and Sullivan. I also like the one about Turner, although I understand a lot of people didn't rate it. I like 'Turner' and thought Spall was amazing in the role. A very leftist close friend was an extra in it. Did he do the wonderful 'Abigail's Party'? he did indeed. would you like a cheese and pineapple thing on a stick? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2019 22:13:52 GMT
Also a big no thanks to Chris Williamson. He's clearly unsuitable to be on the front bench. And TBH probably to be in the Labour Party at all. He's a Johnny-come-lately apparent convert to left-wing socialism and dallies with dangerous anti-Semites such as Vanessa Beeley & Scott Nelson. One more thing out of him & I'll be calling for him to be suspended, at least. There I've said it. He’s almost as awful as David Ward. the GenSec? |
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Post by neilm on Jan 6, 2019 22:14:25 GMT
There was one other member of the incoming Blair government in 1997 who had previously been a Minister: Alan Howarth. I'd forgotten him. One of the few people who's partner was also a peer (Baroness Hollis died recently). |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2019 22:14:50 GMT
Also a big no thanks to Chris Williamson. He's clearly unsuitable to be on the front bench. And TBH probably to be in the Labour Party at all. He's a Johnny-come-lately apparent convert to left-wing socialism and dallies with dangerous anti-Semites such as Vanessa Beeley & Scott Nelson. One more thing out of him & I'll be calling for him to be suspended, at least. There I've said it. Disagree entirely but then we have very fundamental disagreements on Israel. I don't support your stance at all. do you? |
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Post by No Offence Alan on Jan 6, 2019 22:15:00 GMT
i did wonder. Mike Leigh has made some very enjoyable films, particularly "Topsy Turvey" about Gilbert and Sullivan. I also like the one about Turner, although I understand a lot of people didn't rate it. I like 'Turner' and thought Spall was amazing in the role. A very leftist close friend was an extra in it. Did he do the wonderful 'Abigail's Party'? I haven't seen it, but on a DVD of it in the supermarket I noticed under the "guidance" section it said 'contains infrequent moderate sex'. Write your own punchlines. |
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