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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2013 16:43:13 GMT
I do not see why any Labour intending voter would switch to the Tories on the issue of Europe, makes no sense.
OK they may get back a few Ukippers but how many pro Tories may be tempted to go LD ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2013 19:45:29 GMT
I do not see why any Labour intending voter would switch to the Tories on the issue of Europe, makes no sense. I think you will get some churn between the parties over europe, but it is likely to be minimal, & will balance out.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2013 21:28:57 GMT
I do not see why any Labour intending voter would switch to the Tories on the issue of Europe, makes no sense. I think you will get some churn between the parties over europe, but it is likely to be minimal, & will balance out. exactly a few % here and there, no stellar impact at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2013 21:42:11 GMT
I think you will get some churn between the parties over europe, but it is likely to be minimal, & will balance out. exactly a few % here and there, no stellar impact at all. Which is why the euro-unenthusiasts are getting all tetchy about Labour not mimicking Cameron. The 2015 GE may well make a decision on europe, but by an electorate who don't share their sense of priority.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2013 21:46:55 GMT
it is what I keep saying time after time and they are so blinkered can not see it depsite all the evidence.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2013 21:51:44 GMT
it is what I keep saying time after time and they are so blinkered can not see it depsite all the evidence. I think they can see this perfectly, & they can see the potential outcome as well ..... hence tetchy. If they really thought this was the game changer that creates clear blue water between the Tories & Labour, leading to an overall majority in 2015, followed by a withdrawal vote in 2017 they would be a deal more happy with life ...
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Post by The Bishop on Feb 4, 2013 18:16:25 GMT
Latest survey - suggests any Tory "Euro-bounce" may be over??
Lab 41 Con 28 (-3) UKIP 11 (-1) LibDem 10 (+1)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2013 18:40:43 GMT
that was quick ha ha ha
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2013 11:58:31 GMT
Maybe, just maybe, the fact UKIP have fallen to 9 from 14 is the "bounce" you're so eager to see?
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Post by The Bishop on Feb 10, 2013 12:18:20 GMT
I do believe you are a denizen of Twitter, doc - if so you will surely be aware that some right wingers were predicting the Tories would be ahead in the polls after Dave's Big Speech?? Didn't happen......
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Post by East Anglian Lefty on Feb 10, 2013 12:20:33 GMT
And a dip in support for another party as a result of your actions isn't a "bounce" when it's not accompanied by a sustained rise in your own support, and it's particularly unimpressive when nobody seriously believes said party could achieve half of what it's now polling come a general election.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2013 13:30:26 GMT
Neither Twitter nor polls of fewer than 1,000 people should be used to prove a point.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 16:46:29 GMT
TNS-BMRB poll CON 31% (+3), LAB 41% (0), LD 10% (0), UKIP 10% (-1), OTHER 8% (-2)
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Post by Andrew_S on Feb 18, 2013 17:01:56 GMT
CON 29% (-2), LAB 38% (-3), LD 11% (+1), UKIP 12% (+2), OTH 10% (+2)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2013 17:15:46 GMT
Perhaps we should give a breakdown of the "others" when reporting polls here. 10% is surprisingly high. How are the Greens, SNP, PC and BNP etc doing?
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Post by arnieetc on Feb 18, 2013 17:19:03 GMT
4% SNP, 3% Greens, 1% Plaid, 1% BNP, 1% other Other.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2013 17:31:24 GMT
to put the SNP figure in context, in 2010 they got 491,000 votes and 1.7% of the UK vote and the Greens and Plaid under 1%
TOTAL others vote was 9.7% including UKIP so according to this poll the total other voter is more than double ...
That is not right.
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Post by Tony Otim on Feb 18, 2013 19:02:34 GMT
to put the SNP figure in context, in 2010 they got 491,000 votes and 1.7% of the UK vote and the Greens and Plaid under 1% TOTAL others vote was 9.7% including UKIP so according to this poll the total other voter is more than double ... That is not right. I may be wrong, but my impression is that the smaller parties tend to poll better mid-term with a number of pollsters than they actually do come election time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2013 19:05:00 GMT
and also small sample figures may simple mean the SNP in scotland get a bigger share in westminster terms than what they actually get.
Of course there is no question of UKIP doing better, the big question is where the voters will go back to
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Feb 18, 2013 19:21:23 GMT
and also small sample figures may simple mean the SNP in scotland get a bigger share in westminster terms than what they actually get. Of course there is no question of UKIP doing better, the big question is where the voters will go back to Would you like to bet £25 on that? (I think thats the usual going rate on here)
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