The Bishop
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Post by The Bishop on Feb 26, 2021 12:09:53 GMT
ComedyResults like to wait until everyone had finished laughing at their numbers. Careful now they might sue! It was established some time back that truth is a defence to libel
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Feb 26, 2021 12:24:34 GMT
Careful now they might sue! It was established some time back that truth is a defence to libel Well the comments Yougov got about them led me to read in a newspaper Peter Kellner saying something like 'if you put that in print we'll sue'
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Post by The Bishop on Feb 26, 2021 12:27:55 GMT
Though that was accusations about political bias rather than accuracy (or indeed lack of)? Understandable that pollsters get a bit touchy there.
(at least in this country, one of the strange things about the US is how they have lots of openly partisan pollsters and this is generally accepted as quite OK)
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Feb 26, 2021 13:31:01 GMT
Though that was accusations about political bias rather than accuracy (or indeed lack of)? Understandable that pollsters get a bit touchy there. (at least in this country, one of the strange things about the US is how they have lots of openly partisan pollsters and this is generally accepted as quite OK) I cant remember the reason I just wont repeat what was said! Yes the republicans had the very partisan Frank Luntz on their side
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Post by jollyroger93 on Mar 2, 2021 19:55:01 GMT
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Post by robert1 on Mar 10, 2021 8:46:56 GMT
5-7.3
Con 42 (-1) Lab 36 = LD 8 (+1) SNP 4 = Grn 4 (+1)
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Post by robert1 on Mar 17, 2021 9:56:31 GMT
Fieldwork 12.3-14.3
Con 39 (-3) Lab 37 (+1) LD 8 Grn 4 SNP 4
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Post by zoe on Mar 17, 2021 10:01:30 GMT
The vaccine bounce seems to have disappeared.
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Post by hullenedge on Mar 17, 2021 11:44:51 GMT
At least this poll adds up to 100%
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Post by hullenedge on Mar 26, 2021 14:32:22 GMT
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Post by Andrew_S on Apr 6, 2021 16:47:55 GMT
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Post by robert1 on Apr 14, 2021 16:51:13 GMT
Con 42= Lab 35= LD 7-1 SNP 5+1 Grn 4+1
Fieldwork 9th-11th April
Changes from 2nd-4th April
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Post by Andrew_S on Apr 20, 2021 15:55:19 GMT
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Post by johng on Apr 28, 2021 14:54:52 GMT
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Post by Clark on Apr 28, 2021 15:06:58 GMT
No matter what Johnson does, he never seems to pay for it in the polls. It's quite remarkable really. Of course, it helps when the opposition aren't up to much either.
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Post by hengo on Apr 28, 2021 15:29:43 GMT
Or maybe it’s this: when asked to be shocked at evidence of corruption which consists of a man seemingly asking if others could help pay for the refurbishment of a public building he is obliged to live in to do his job, but then agreeing to pay for it himself, the public decline to share the sham outrage of his political opponents. Or when invited to share the view that at the height of the pandemic , the priority shouldn’t have been securing ventilators, but ensuring that the paperwork was fully completed , they disagree. Or if someone uses colourful language to indicate their utter frustration at the prospect of ordering another lockdown when they know the damage it will do, but does so anyway when weighing the alternative, that is something more to be sympathised with , rather than condemned.
Or put more generally , people think that on the whole, the government and hence its leadership is currently in credit. In particular of course its success with the vaccination programme in stark contrast with the fiasco in Europe , which every other Party leader in Westminster and elsewhere would have had us share, however they try to spin it now.
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Post by Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith on Apr 28, 2021 15:55:10 GMT
Or to put it another way, people expect it of Boris Johnson, so its greeted with a shrug of the shoulders.
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Post by gibbon on Apr 28, 2021 16:11:03 GMT
What effect will the Electoral Commission's decision to investigate the cash for flat refurbishment and the remarks about bodies have on the next poll? Will Dominic Cummings next remarks create more issues? This may run and run. It may not affect next week's elections but will it affect the byelection at Chesham?
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Post by johng on Apr 28, 2021 16:37:05 GMT
What effect will the Electoral Commission's decision to investigate the cash for flat refurbishment and the remarks about bodies have on the next poll? Will Dominic Cummings next remarks create more issues? This may run and run. It may not affect next week's elections but will it affect the byelection at Chesham? Based on what we've seen in the polls recently, not much. A lot of stuff with Johnson is already priced in. Nobody expects him to be on top of every detail or not to make a gaffe or two.
The main issue he has is if this story runs and runs. Death by a thousand cuts as it were.
At the end of the day, facts really don't matter. Narrative is everything.
As e.g. in most of the media (and reading hengo 's post), you'd think all of the EU's vaccination woes were entirely down to the commission. That's certainly not the case as many countries across the EU share the blame for their abysmal programmes.
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Post by andrew111 on Apr 28, 2021 18:00:13 GMT
It depends whether anyone has the wit to brand him in a way that everyone understands.
I would go with "Del-boy Johnson" if I were Starmer and ask him at PMQ if he has stopped selling Peckham Spring water yet.
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