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Post by neilm on May 2, 2022 15:37:56 GMT
I wonder why they mention that Leanne Wood's column is 'exclusive', it's not like she's a highly sought after commodity in the media world.
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Post by ππΎπΊππβπΆπΎππ on May 2, 2022 16:17:00 GMT
I wonder why they mention that Leanne Wood's column is 'exclusive', it's not like she's a highly sought after commodity in the media world. And she still comes across as a boring, bitter woman who has never matured from her students' union days. She has a unique gift for making me feel sympathy for Plaid Cymru's leadership. |
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Post by neilm on May 2, 2022 17:04:00 GMT
I wonder why they mention that Leanne Wood's column is 'exclusive', it's not like she's a highly sought after commodity in the media world. And she still comes across as a boring, bitter woman who has never matured from her students' union days. She has a unique gift for making me feel sympathy for Plaid Cymru's leadership. Talking of Plaid's leadership, Price isn't really any great shakes is he. Not the right thread admittedly, but when he answered my question about the Welsh economy on the Daily Politics (the day I won the mug), he came across as pretty balanced and thoughtful (he was at Harvard at the time so maybe he was in a thinking mindset) but now he comes across as one of those people who'd be OK in a ministerial role but can't quite get people to vote for him, a bit like some of the SDP leadership. |
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Post by ππΎπΊππβπΆπΎππ on May 2, 2022 17:48:39 GMT
And she still comes across as a boring, bitter woman who has never matured from her students' union days. She has a unique gift for making me feel sympathy for Plaid Cymru's leadership. Talking of Plaid's leadership, Price isn't really any great shakes is he. Not the right thread admittedly, but when he answered my question about the Welsh economy on the Daily Politics (the day I won the mug), he came across as pretty balanced and thoughtful (he was at Harvard at the time so maybe he was in a thinking mindset) but now he comes across as one of those people who'd be OK in a ministerial role but can't quite get people to vote for him, a bit like some of the SDP leadership. Yes, this. And it was similarly easy to laugh at his trailer for his gritty Carmarthenshire detective series. He's their IDS. It's just that that is a massive improvement in calibre for them. He's a great loss to a serious party. If he hadn't gone all parochial and instead picked either of the two main parties, he'd be on a front bench in Westminster. Instead he just gets savaged by his own nutjobs. Sad, really. |
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Post by carolus on Jun 26, 2022 11:12:18 GMT
Glasgow North. Patrick Grady, SNP to Independent.
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Jun 26, 2022 15:40:21 GMT
May I ask what people make of the reports that six Conservative MP's, fed up with waiting for Boris to do the decent thing, are going to defect from the Conservatives (as reported in the Sunday Times today behind a paywall)?
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Post by nodealbrexiteer on Jun 26, 2022 15:45:16 GMT
May I ask what people make of the reports that six Conservative MP's, fed up with waiting for Boris to do the decent thing, are going to defect from the Conservatives (as reported in the Sunday Times today behind a paywall)? I think it's bollocks |
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Post by Merseymike on Jun 26, 2022 16:22:04 GMT
May I ask what people make of the reports that six Conservative MP's, fed up with waiting for Boris to do the decent thing, are going to defect from the Conservatives (as reported in the Sunday Times today behind a paywall)? It's very rare that any of these rumours ever come to anything |
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Post by greatkingrat on Jun 26, 2022 17:03:01 GMT
According to tomorrow's Daily Telegraph, there are eight Conservative MPs considering defecting to the UK Independence Party: www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9703678/Exclusive-Eight-Tory-MPs-in-talks-about-defecting-to-Ukip.htmlGiven that their source is Stuart Wheeler, who might be said to be parti pris, I'm not giving it very much credence at the moment. And it might be a very easy way of relieving tension for Conservative MPs feeling under pressure to go to a UKIP person and launch a conversation on the subject of "I'm annoyed with the Tories and thinking of defecting". May I ask what people make of the reports that six Conservative MP's, fed up with waiting for Boris to do the decent thing, are going to defect from the Conservatives (as reported in the Sunday Times today behind a paywall)? Maybe these 6 are the same MPs (less Carswell and Reckless) referred to at the beginning of this thread? |
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Post by tonyhill on Jun 26, 2022 17:52:26 GMT
Where would they be defecting to I wonder? I suppose they could start their own Party - maybe call it Change UK?
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Post by greenhert on Jun 26, 2022 18:56:31 GMT
Where would they be defecting to I wonder? I suppose they could start their own Party - maybe call it Change UK? More likely that they would defect to the Liberal Democrats or to Labour, depending on their outlook, or if they were too far to the "right", Reform UK (one ex-Conservative MSP, Michelle Ballantyne, did). |
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Post by batman on Jun 26, 2022 19:50:18 GMT
If you're a Tory MP & you want to remove Boris Johnson, logically you're going to want to stay in the Conservative Party at the moment, and save any possible defections for if you fail. I agree it's almost certainly bullshit.
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Post by matureleft on Jun 26, 2022 20:10:17 GMT
There are a lot of bars in Westminster.
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Post by Chris from Brum on Jun 26, 2022 21:29:06 GMT
May I ask what people make of the reports that six Conservative MP's, fed up with waiting for Boris to do the decent thing, are going to defect from the Conservatives (as reported in the Sunday Times today behind a paywall)? Believe it when I see it. |
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Post by threecrowns on Jun 27, 2022 7:53:19 GMT
I think this story is bollocks, like most seem to. Are there any remotely likely candidates for this? I genuinely can't think of any.
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 27, 2022 9:38:30 GMT
I can think of at least one where I would be mildly surprised if they *didn't* defect to the LibDems at this point, actually.
But often these things *aren't* telegraphed in advance - who exactly saw Wakeford coming?
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 27, 2022 9:43:21 GMT
I can think of at least one where I would be mildly surprised if they *didn't* defect to the LibDems at this point, actually. But often these things *aren't* telegraphed in advance - who exactly saw Wakeford coming? I'll Go with Nokes.. (and if so good riddance but she should have been deselected before the last election) |
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 27, 2022 9:44:26 GMT
Yes, well deduced.
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Post by Daft H'a'porth A'peth A'pith on Jun 27, 2022 9:47:45 GMT
I can think of at least one where I would be mildly surprised if they *didn't* defect to the LibDems at this point, actually. But often these things *aren't* telegraphed in advance - who exactly saw Wakeford coming? I'll Go with Nokes.. (and if so good riddance but she should have been deselected before the last election) |
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 27, 2022 9:56:42 GMT
I'll Go with Nokes.. (and if so good riddance but she should have been deselected before the last election) I assumed some people would get the reference |
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