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Deltapoll
Jan 2, 2022 21:10:20 GMT
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Post by carolus on Jan 2, 2022 21:10:20 GMT
What was the BXP % in those Con gains? It seems to have been reweighed or distributed to Lab/Con, judging from the changes posted. BXP are now Reform UK (RUK).
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Deltapoll
Jan 3, 2022 11:14:29 GMT
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Post by casualobserver on Jan 3, 2022 11:14:29 GMT
What I, as a Conservative activist, took from this so-called “red wall” poll were the following points, which came as something of a surprise:
1. Relatively strong belief that the country will not become more unequal in the next 12 months.
2. Very strong lack of understanding of the levelling-up agenda.
3. Surprisingly strong net positives for compulsory vaccinations and for covid passports.
4. Astonishment that Prince Andrew’s net rating is so good. Was there only a 50% response rate on this question?
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Deltapoll
Jan 3, 2022 11:35:46 GMT
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Post by andrew111 on Jan 3, 2022 11:35:46 GMT
What I, as a Conservative activist, took from this so-called “red wall” poll were the following points, which came as something of a surprise: 1. Relatively strong belief that the country will not become more unequal in the next 12 months. 2. Very strong lack of understanding of the levelling-up agenda. 3. Surprisingly strong net positives for compulsory vaccinations and for covid passports. 4. Astonishment that Prince Andrew’s net rating is so good. Was there only a 50% response rate on this question? Explanation: 1) The country is already so unequal that further change would be hard to achieve. 2) Levelling up consists of cancelling railways in the North, refurbishing hospitals and saying they are "new", and giving money to destitute Richmond and Newark. What is not to understand? 3) don't forget being afraid to go on holiday next year 4) Well, yes, perhaps they think he is someone else?? It is the cost of living questions that are the most worrying for the Tories as a whole, not just Boris, I would say..
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Post by woollyliberal on Jan 3, 2022 11:42:43 GMT
What I, as a Conservative activist, took from this so-called “red wall” poll were the following points, which came as something of a surprise: 1. Relatively strong belief that the country will not become more unequal in the next 12 months. 2. Very strong lack of understanding of the levelling-up agenda. 3. Surprisingly strong net positives for compulsory vaccinations and for covid passports. 4. Astonishment that Prince Andrew’s net rating is so good. Was there only a 50% response rate on this question? Point 3 has been clear for some time. Most of the public are more strongly in favour of other people not infecting them. Covid Libertarians are the minority. On points 1 and 2, Boris has never really delivered on his promises. His words are only for the moment they're spoken. Levelling up was never serious. Scrapping HS2 is a symbol of government not being serious about spending money in the north. To Boris, promises are about winning not really about delivering. To red wall voters, they're about being delivered. People don't vote for promises of spending, but for spending. If you promise for votes and don't deliver, you don't get votes again.
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Post by andrew111 on Jan 3, 2022 13:00:35 GMT
What I, as a Conservative activist, took from this so-called “red wall” poll were the following points, which came as something of a surprise: 1. Relatively strong belief that the country will not become more unequal in the next 12 months. 2. Very strong lack of understanding of the levelling-up agenda. 3. Surprisingly strong net positives for compulsory vaccinations and for covid passports. 4. Astonishment that Prince Andrew’s net rating is so good. Was there only a 50% response rate on this question? Point 3 has been clear for some time. Most of the public are more strongly in favour of other people not infecting them. Covid Libertarians are the minority. On points 1 and 2, Boris has never really delivered on his promises. His words are only for the moment they're spoken. Levelling up was never serious. Scrapping HS2 is a symbol of government not being serious about spending money in the north. To Boris, promises are about winning not really about delivering. To red wall voters, they're about being delivered. People don't vote for promises of spending, but for spending. If you promise for votes and don't deliver, you don't get votes again. Johnson did get Brexit done. People think he kept his word on that and that has kept him going. Thatcher and Blair kept promises but in the end made mistakes that destroyed all that (took quite a while for the mistake to be clear in Blair's case. As soon as I saw the community charge I thought "that is a big mistake by Thatcher). I think Johnson has now passed his sell by date beyond the point of no return, unless a winnable and conclusive war like the Falklands turns up to save him..
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Post by Richard Allen on Jan 3, 2022 15:37:49 GMT
4. Astonishment that Prince Andrew’s net rating is so good. Was there only a 50% response rate on this question? A net 50% negative rating probably means somethings like 22% approve 72% disapprove 6% don't know That strikes me as about right. There will be more than a few people who see Prince Andrew as innocent of any wrong doing, some will believe his absolute denials, some will assume that he is lying but reason that he was a single bloke who slept with an attractive 17 year old girl and think fair play to him. Others will conclude that the girls involved with Epstein largely knew what they were getting involved with and that attending lots of glamorous parties and living the high life was decent compensation for their labour.
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Deltapoll
Jan 3, 2022 20:36:19 GMT
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Post by mattbewilson on Jan 3, 2022 20:36:19 GMT
There's a lot anger amongst people i know who blame unvaccinated people for the current surge
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Deltapoll
Jan 4, 2022 12:00:08 GMT
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Post by andrew111 on Jan 4, 2022 12:00:08 GMT
4. Astonishment that Prince Andrew’s net rating is so good. Was there only a 50% response rate on this question? A net 50% negative rating probably means somethings like 22% approve 72% disapprove 6% don't know That strikes me as about right. There will be more than a few people who see Prince Andrew as innocent of any wrong doing, some will believe his absolute denials, some will assume that he is lying but reason that he was a single bloke who slept with an attractive 17 year old girl and think fair play to him. Others will conclude that the girls involved with Epstein largely knew what they were getting involved with and that attending lots of glamorous parties and living the high life was decent compensation for their labour. And getting $500k to keep quiet? (which doesn't look good in various ways depending on how you look at it)
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Post by woollyliberal on Jan 17, 2022 17:44:43 GMT
LAB: 41% (+1) CON: 32% (-3) LDM: 11% (+1) SNP: 5% (=) GRN: 5% (+1) RFM: 2% (-1) UKIP: 2% (+1)
12-16 Jan, Changes w/ 23-30 Dec.
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Post by batman on Jan 17, 2022 18:37:57 GMT
that's actually the best poll for the Tories for several days.........
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Post by The Bishop on Jan 31, 2022 11:43:53 GMT
New poll out, headline figures Lab 42 Con 32 but not sure if the rest has been released yet.
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Post by bridgyoldboy on Jan 31, 2022 12:56:04 GMT
Delta Poll Field work 25-27/1:
Labour - 42 (+1) Conservative 32 (nc) Lib Dem 10 (-1) Green 6% (+1)
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Post by clyde1998 on Jan 31, 2022 13:00:16 GMT
New poll out, headline figures Lab 42 Con 32 but not sure if the rest has been released yet. 25-27 January:Lab 42 (+1) Con 32 (nc) LDm 10 (-1) Grn 6 (+1) SNP 5 (nc) RUK 1 (-1) UKIP 1 (-1) PC 1 (nc) Oth 1 (nc) Very little movement since their previous poll from 12-16 Jan. Crosstabs are here.
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Post by willpower3 on Jan 31, 2022 13:10:05 GMT
Surely they should change their name to Omicronpoll now?
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Post by andrew111 on Jan 31, 2022 13:39:12 GMT
Surely they should change their name to Omicronpoll now? Enigma Variations?
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Post by John Chanin on Jan 31, 2022 15:59:37 GMT
Surely they should change their name to Omicronpoll now? Better to future proof by using Omegapoll….
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Post by finsobruce on Jan 31, 2022 16:19:10 GMT
Surely they should change their name to Omicronpoll now? Better to future proof by using Omegapoll…. Followed by further Booster polls.
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Deltapoll
Jan 31, 2022 16:38:55 GMT
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Post by andrew111 on Jan 31, 2022 16:38:55 GMT
I think anyone refusing to disclose their voting intention to a pollster shoukd be excluded from various things selected randomly, up to and including their job. (Polling could then double badge as a TV game show. Brave New World!)
And lie detector tests of course should be introduced..
Pollsters often seem to get things wrong and those shy Tories need sorting out once and for all
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Post by batman on Jan 31, 2022 16:47:41 GMT
Surely they should change their name to Omicronpoll now? Better to future proof by using Omegapoll…. or Omega3poll, and show a healthy scepticism towards their findings?
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Post by woollyliberal on Feb 7, 2022 13:25:27 GMT
Con 34% (+2) Lab 41% (-1) Lib Dem 10% (-) Other 15% (-1)
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