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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 7, 2018 22:44:28 GMT
MID DEVON Cranmore
KENNEDY, Lance (Conservative) 479 CRUWYS, Les (Liberal Democrats) 346 BUSH, Steve (Labour) 238
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Post by andrew111 on Jun 7, 2018 22:45:58 GMT
1983-style vote share changes there. How many places did the Liberals not stand in 1979??
I was going to say that it looks like an argument for a "progressive alliance"
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Post by swanarcadian on Jun 7, 2018 22:51:08 GMT
1983-style vote share changes there. How many places did the Liberals not stand in 1979??
I was going to say that it looks like an argument for a "progressive alliance"
The Liberals stood in 577 of the 635 seats in 1979.
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Post by Robert Waller on Jun 7, 2018 22:53:14 GMT
MID DEVON Cranmore KENNEDY, Lance (Conservative) 479 CRUWYS, Les (Liberal Democrats) 346 BUSH, Steve (Labour) 238 Cranmore (Mid Devon) result: CON: 45.1% (+13.3) LDEM: 32.5% (+32.5) LAB: 22.4% (+7.0) Conservative HOLD. No Ind(s) as prev. Compared with 2015
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 7, 2018 22:54:24 GMT
Anyone know if the two C / LD marginals are counting tonight? Marginals?
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Post by liverpoolliberal on Jun 7, 2018 22:58:11 GMT
Anyone know if the two C / LD marginals are counting tonight? Marginals? You’re right, South Oxon wasn’t marginal at all: LD 1048 Con 658 Lab 121
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Post by Khunanup on Jun 7, 2018 22:59:26 GMT
Anyone know if the two C / LD marginals are counting tonight? Marginals?
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Post by robbienicoll on Jun 7, 2018 23:01:53 GMT
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Post by greenhert on Jun 7, 2018 23:04:33 GMT
How many places did the Liberals not stand in 1979??
I was going to say that it looks like an argument for a "progressive alliance"
The Liberals stood in 577 of the 635 seats in 1979. 577 of 623 in practice. The three largest parties stopped standing in Northern Ireland from the February 1974 general election onwards. The majority of the gaps were in Scotland and Wales, with 10 more in England. Presumably it was down to a lack of resources (and possibly even willing candidates, as Butler & Kavanagh hinted at in their analysis of the October 1974 general election).
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Post by hempie on Jun 8, 2018 8:02:03 GMT
I can remember being amazed we managed to stand as many candidates as we did in 1979 after the difficult time surrounding the Lib-Lab pact. Remember the percentage to retain your deposit was 12.5% in those days - quite a lot of constituencies could barely manage to get the deposit sum together even though it was a lower amount than today (£150, equivalent to about £530 today).
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 8, 2018 9:58:52 GMT
The Liberals stood in 577 of the 635 seats in 1979. 577 of 623 in practice. The three largest parties stopped standing in Northern Ireland from the February 1974 general election onwards. The majority of the gaps were in Scotland and Wales, with 10 more in England. Presumably it was down to a lack of resources (and possibly even willing candidates, as Butler & Kavanagh hinted at in their analysis of the October 1974 general election). Though only three (Scottish) seats were without Liberal candidates then.
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Post by greenhert on Jun 8, 2018 21:47:20 GMT
Indeed, but Butler & Kavanagh reported that the Liberals apparently had to draft in "strangers" to fill the gaps-a considerable proportion of October 1974 Liberal candidates did not contest any other parliamentary elections.
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Post by bungle on Jun 10, 2018 8:43:33 GMT
Why is Crown so named? Perhaps it could be something to do with the fact that there are some Duchy of Lancaster woodlands in the area. Yes - lots of woodland, farms and arable land all under the banner of the Duchy of Lancaster, but locally still known as Needwood Estate. The A515 runs as a spine through the estate and there are signs up everywhere (usually with 'private land' underneath - hmmm). The estate historically included Tutbury Castle with its strong royal connections (Mary Queen of Scots was imprisoned there for a long time) and the site of RAF Fauld where the UK's largest accidental explosion happened in November 1944 when an underground arms storage depot went up The site of the crater is actually within Crown Ward as it is much closer to Hanbury than its eponymous village.
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Post by bigfatron on Jun 10, 2018 8:44:26 GMT
To give the %age swings (to top) for Benson & Crowmarsh:
LDem 1048 57.4% +27.2% Con 658 36.0% -10.6% Lab 121 6.6% - 4.0% Green - - -12.6%
Swing Con to LDem of 18.9% LDem gain
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Post by markf on Jun 10, 2018 20:54:01 GMT
I don't think there was a Liberal candidate in Barnsley in 1974
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Post by middleenglander on Jun 10, 2018 23:40:04 GMT
East Staffordshire, Crown - Conservative hold Party | 2018 votes | 2018 share | since 2015 | since 2011 | since 2007 | Conservative | 459 | 76.1% | -3.2% | -3.0% | +1.5% | Labour | 73 | 12.1% | -8.5% | -8.8% | -1.2% | Liberal Democrat | 71 | 11.8% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | BNP |
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| -12.1% | Total votes | 603 |
| 38% | 53% | 63% |
Swing Labour to Conservative ~ 2¾% since 2015, ~ 3% since 2011 and ~ 1¼% since 2007 Council now 25 Conservative, 12 Labour, 1 Liberal democrat, 1 Independent Mid Devon, Cranmore - Conservative hold Party | 2018 votes | 2018 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | since 2011 "top" | since 2011 "average" | Conservative | 479 | 45.1% | -1.5% | +0.6% | -6.8% | -5.3% | Liberal Democrat * | 346 | 32.5% | from nowhere | from nowhere | -15.6% | -17.0% | Labour ** | 238 | 22.4% | -0.1% | -3.0% | from nowhere | from nowhere | Previous Independents |
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| 45% | 52% | 76% | 83% |
* Liberal Democrat in by-election was "top" Independent in 2015, 35 votes behind 3rd place Conservative whose death caused the by-election ** Labour candidate was third placed Independent in 2015, 250 votes behind the leading Independent Swing, if particularly meaningful, Liberal Democrat to Conservative ~4½% / 5¾% since 2011 Council now 29 Conservative, 6 Independent, 5 Liberal Democrat, 1 UKIP, 1 Liberal South Oxfordshire, Benson & Crowmarsh - Liberal Democrat gain from ConservativeParty | 2018 votes | 2018 share | since 2015 "top" | since 2015 "average" | Liberal Democrat | 1,048 | 56.5% | +26.3% | +31.5% | Conservative | 685 | 36.9% | -9.6% | -11.5% | Labour | 121 | 6.5% | -4.1% | -5.4% | Green |
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| -12.6% | -14.6% | Total votes | 1,854 |
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New Councillor was a previous Liberal Democrat Councillor for the Benson ward, polling more than twice to votes of her running mate in 2015 Swing, if politically meaningful, Conservative to Liberal Democrat 18% / 21½% since 2015 Council now 32 Conservative, 2 Liberal Democrat, 1 Labour, 1 Resident
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Post by mattb on Jun 11, 2018 5:34:11 GMT
Benson swing is Con to LD not the other way round
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Post by yellowperil on Jun 11, 2018 5:49:33 GMT
Never mind, welcome back, middleenglander!
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 11, 2018 9:50:18 GMT
I don't think there was a Liberal candidate in Barnsley in 1974 Not in February no, but in the second 1974 GE there was (and they almost caught the Tories for second place)
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Post by markf on Jun 11, 2018 19:25:03 GMT
Right , thank you
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