CatholicLeft
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jul 23, 2020 22:12:09 GMT
Ireland Thinks Poll corrected from above: FG: 38% (+4) SF: 26% (-1) FF: 12% (-1) GP: 5% (-3) Lab: 4% (-) SD: 3% (-) Sol-PBP: 2% (-) Aontu: 2% (+2) Ind: 8% (-2) Will FF (as opposed to FG) at some point become the beneficiaries of leading the government? One would assume so, but who knows? I am one of those who, whilst having a dislike of Fianna Fail stitched into my DNA, recognise that they will never go gently into the night. It is easily forgotten that, pre-Corvid-19, Leo Varadkar was not universally popular and his party were well beaten in the recent General Election. Fine Gael have benefited from the 'pro-government in a crisis' bump and a gathering of the anti-Sinn Fein vote. All Taoiseach Martin has to do is keep himself in the media and FG out of it. Even the bad publicity is publicity. The Brian Cowen debacle will end up keeping FF faces in the news and, Irish politics being what it is, that will make the party relevant. Also, the good news will attach itself to Mr Martin, as, inevitably, some good news will come. Also, Fianna Fail have a strong campaigning base.
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CatholicLeft
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jul 23, 2020 22:25:07 GMT
Deputy Danny Healy Rae not supporting the new Government (but wishing them well). Enjoy: Just watched this - some people will be amused by it but listen carefully, amidst the stammering there is content/context and you can see this from the change in Micheal Martin's demeanour from the beginning to the end. The Healey-Rae's are nobody's fools and there really is a 'Healey-Rae Party' now in Kerry (see the local election results). The Healey-Rae's are gene-pool Fianna Fail and they, rather than FF's John Brassil, survived the Sinn Fein surge in Kerry, with Michael Healey-Rae topping the poll. Michael Martin need the likes of those who vote for the Healey-Raes to rebuild Fianna Fail's base.
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Richard Allen
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Post by Richard Allen on Jul 27, 2020 9:31:06 GMT
Deputy Danny Healy Rae not supporting the new Government (but wishing them well). Enjoy: Just watched this - some people will be amused by it but listen carefully, amidst the stammering there is content/context and you can see this from the change in Micheal Martin's demeanour from the beginning to the end. The Healey-Rae's are nobody's fools and there really is a 'Healey-Rae Party' now in Kerry (see the local election results). The Healey-Rae's are gene-pool Fianna Fail and they, rather than FF's John Brassil, survived the Sinn Fein surge in Kerry, with Michael Healey-Rae topping the poll. Michael Martin need the likes of those who vote for the Healey-Raes to rebuild Fianna Fail's base. I agree with your general point but the Kerry results this year were actually pretty good for FF. Their first preferences rose from 15.8% in 2016 to 20.7% while the Healey-Rae first preferences dropped from 38.3% to 32.8% with Danny only being elected on the 6th count in stark contrast to 2016 when Michael's surplus was enough to take him through on the 2nd count. John Brassil lost his seat to fellow FF candidate Norma Foley and not as the result of the SF surge.
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Jul 27, 2020 9:41:40 GMT
Just watched this - some people will be amused by it but listen carefully, amidst the stammering there is content/context and you can see this from the change in Micheal Martin's demeanour from the beginning to the end. The Healey-Rae's are nobody's fools and there really is a 'Healey-Rae Party' now in Kerry (see the local election results). The Healey-Rae's are gene-pool Fianna Fail and they, rather than FF's John Brassil, survived the Sinn Fein surge in Kerry, with Michael Healey-Rae topping the poll. Michael Martin need the likes of those who vote for the Healey-Raes to rebuild Fianna Fail's base. I agree with your general point but the Kerry results this year were actually pretty good for FF. Their first preferences rose from 15.8% in 2016 to 20.7% while the Healey-Rae first preferences dropped from 38.3% to 32.8% with Danny only being elected on the 6th count in stark contrast to 2016 when Michael's surplus was enough to take him through on the 2nd count. John Brassil lost his seat to fellow FF candidate Norma Foley and not as the result of the SF surge. FF's vote was static, but they clearly prioritised Foley over Brassil- I heard complaints that when Micheal Martin visited Kerry, he was always with Foley and ignored Brassil completely. They're both from the Tralee area- and given that local profile often matters more than political party in these areas, they would have been competing against each other as much as with other parties' candidates.
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CatholicLeft
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jul 27, 2020 12:10:12 GMT
Just watched this - some people will be amused by it but listen carefully, amidst the stammering there is content/context and you can see this from the change in Micheal Martin's demeanour from the beginning to the end. The Healey-Rae's are nobody's fools and there really is a 'Healey-Rae Party' now in Kerry (see the local election results). The Healey-Rae's are gene-pool Fianna Fail and they, rather than FF's John Brassil, survived the Sinn Fein surge in Kerry, with Michael Healey-Rae topping the poll. Michael Martin need the likes of those who vote for the Healey-Raes to rebuild Fianna Fail's base. I agree with your general point but the Kerry results this year were actually pretty good for FF. Their first preferences rose from 15.8% in 2016 to 20.7% while the Healey-Rae first preferences dropped from 38.3% to 32.8% with Danny only being elected on the 6th count in stark contrast to 2016 when Michael's surplus was enough to take him through on the 2nd count. John Brassil lost his seat to fellow FF candidate Norma Foley and not as the result of the SF surge. Fair enough, but the slip in the Healey-Rae vote in the face of Sinn Fein wasn't that bad compared to nationally and, given ridiculous the opinion poll having Danny Healey-Rae on only 4% (as it did in 2016), the Healey-Rae is a remarkably resilient political foce.
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Post by cibwr on Jul 28, 2020 9:57:05 GMT
Where is the Dail meeting? Convention Centre Dublin OK why - they refurbishing the building?
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Post by Ghyl Tarvoke on Jul 28, 2020 10:42:54 GMT
OK why - they refurbishing the building? Social Distancing. The Dail chamber is too small to hold so many TDs with the present regulations in present.
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Post by thinwhiteduke on Oct 12, 2020 17:05:54 GMT
Northern Ireland Assembly : LucidTalk Poll
SF: 24% (-3.9) DUP: 23% (-5.1) AP: 16% (+6.9) SDLP: 13% (+1.1) UUP: 12% (-0.9) TUV: 6% (+3.4) GP: 3% (-0.7) PBP: 2% (+0.2) OTH: 1% (-2.7)
+/- 2017 Assembly Election 5-9 October 2020
Party Leader Approval Ratings: LucidTalk
Colum Eastwood (SDLP): 47% Naomi Long (AP): 42% Arlene Foster (DUP): 36% Jim Allister (TUV): 31% Steve Aitken (UUP): 23% Michelle O’Neill (SF): 22%
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CatholicLeft
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Post by CatholicLeft on Oct 12, 2020 19:23:36 GMT
Northern Ireland Assembly : LucidTalk Poll SF: 24% (-3.9) DUP: 23% (-5.1) AP: 16% (+6.9) SDLP: 13% (+1.1) UUP: 12% (-0.9) TUV: 6% (+3.4) GP: 3% (-0.7) PBP: 2% (+0.2) OTH: 1% (-2.7) +/- 2017 Assembly Election 5-9 October 2020 Party Leader Approval Ratings: LucidTalk Colum Eastwood (SDLP): 47% Naomi Long (AP): 42% Arlene Foster (DUP): 36% Jim Allister (TUV): 31% Steve Aitken (UUP): 23% Michelle O’Neill (SF): 22% Putting this on the Irish elections thread is really going to trigger some on this Forum.
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Post by relique on Oct 12, 2020 19:33:41 GMT
Northern Ireland Assembly : LucidTalk Poll SF: 24% (-3.9) DUP: 23% (-5.1) AP: 16% (+6.9) SDLP: 13% (+1.1) UUP: 12% (-0.9) TUV: 6% (+3.4) GP: 3% (-0.7) PBP: 2% (+0.2) OTH: 1% (-2.7) +/- 2017 Assembly Election 5-9 October 2020 Party Leader Approval Ratings: LucidTalk Colum Eastwood (SDLP): 47% Naomi Long (AP): 42% Arlene Foster (DUP): 36% Jim Allister (TUV): 31% Steve Aitken (UUP): 23% Michelle O’Neill (SF): 22% Putting this on the Irish elections thread is really going to trigger some on this Forum. That was the only reason I liked this post even though the poll was already posted in another thread !
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Post by thinwhiteduke on Oct 12, 2020 19:58:21 GMT
Northern Ireland Assembly : LucidTalk Poll SF: 24% (-3.9) DUP: 23% (-5.1) AP: 16% (+6.9) SDLP: 13% (+1.1) UUP: 12% (-0.9) TUV: 6% (+3.4) GP: 3% (-0.7) PBP: 2% (+0.2) OTH: 1% (-2.7) +/- 2017 Assembly Election 5-9 October 2020 Party Leader Approval Ratings: LucidTalk Colum Eastwood (SDLP): 47% Naomi Long (AP): 42% Arlene Foster (DUP): 36% Jim Allister (TUV): 31% Steve Aitken (UUP): 23% Michelle O’Neill (SF): 22% Putting this on the Irish elections thread is really going to trigger some on this Forum. I didn't take into account of the fact that the placement of the post would be construed as a political statement.. lol.
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CatholicLeft
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Post by CatholicLeft on Oct 12, 2020 21:38:18 GMT
Putting this on the Irish elections thread is really going to trigger some on this Forum. I didn't take into account of the fact that the placement of the post would be construed as a political statement.. lol. As my Grandma Barry would have said: "Behind that angelic mask is the face of the devil himself".
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Post by thinwhiteduke on Oct 29, 2020 15:25:23 GMT
A rather disastrous 12 months for Elisha McCallion..
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Post by Khunanup on Oct 29, 2020 19:06:48 GMT
A rather disastrous 12 months for Elisha McCallion.. You have to have a heart of stone not to laugh... 😆😆😆
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Post by Chris from Brum on Oct 29, 2020 19:11:19 GMT
A rather disastrous 12 months for Elisha McCallion.. You have to have a heart of stone not to laugh... 😆😆😆 Hang on, aren't they supposed to be the squeaky clean ones, as opposed to FF, FG etc ... ?
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Oct 30, 2020 0:45:44 GMT
She looks like a Manc tart on a hen do rather than a member of the Irish senate.
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Post by yellowperil on Oct 30, 2020 9:54:45 GMT
She looks like a Manc tart on a hen do rather than a member of the Irish senate. I would not expect for one moment to be rushing to the defence of any member of SF, let alone one who is an arguably corrupt member of the Irish senate, but I have to say I do rather take exception to that sort of comment. I don't think we should judge any politician by their appearance or by their age or sex, and that sounds a pretty unaccptable comment. I take it you don't expect an Irish senator to be female and under forty. In fact I see nothing to link her to a Manc tart at a hen do other than maybe her age and sex.
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Post by thinwhiteduke on Jun 28, 2021 19:27:11 GMT
Dublin Bay South By-Election poll.
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CatholicLeft
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Post by CatholicLeft on Jun 28, 2021 19:58:27 GMT
Dublin Bay South By-Election poll. If the result is anything like that, it makes Bacik favourite on transfers. This is an awful poll for Boylan and undermines the two-horse race narrative that SF were trying to push against FG. Come the byelection, I don't expect the Green voters to swing behind their coalition partners. Fianna Fail will hope to do a bit better, though I would expect them to transfer to Fine Gael.
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 28, 2021 21:12:33 GMT
How interesting to note that "the two horse race narrative" still gets an outing even when in a preferential electoral system.
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