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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Feb 9, 2020 18:42:56 GMT
In Meath East, a Sinn Féin surplus of 2,275 went:
927 to Aontú
555 to SD
278 to Green
239 to FG
184 to FF
81 to Renua
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Post by greenhert on Feb 9, 2020 18:43:37 GMT
Mayo, count 1:
Michael Ring (FG) 14,796 (elected)
Rose Conway Walsh (SF) 14,633 (elected)
Dara Calleary (FF) 9,163
Lisa Chambers (FF) 6,373
Michelle Mulherin (FG) 5,435
Alan Dillon (FG) 5,198
Saoirse McHugh (Green) 4,177
Paul Lawless (Aontu) 2,574
Joe Daly (Sol-PBP) 721
Gerry Loftus (Ind) 574
Kamal Uddin (Lab) 255
Daithi O Fallamhain (IFP) 246
Grainne de Barra (Ind) 84
Stephen Manning (Ind) 65
Sean Forkin (Ind) 59.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Feb 9, 2020 18:44:54 GMT
I presume the most likely outcome of these elections will be a coalition between FF and FG to keep SF out of office, but this will now look less like a Grand Coalition of the Big 2 and more like a shabby stitch up between 2nd and third (in popuar vote at least) to keep the actual winners out of office. Am I alone in thinking SF knew exactly what they were doing and rather than mess up by under-representing they have done exactly what they wanted for this time? Let FF/FG take charge of the mess for the moment and make themselves even more unpopular in the near future. That seems like too big a gamble. This could be a flash in the pan rather than a major long-term shift. Plus, all the indicators until quite recently were that they would collapse, so at the time they were nominating they probably thought they'd nominated a sensible number. Yes, i think so, too. FF&FG seem to be locked in another "Grand"-Coalition and thus DeathSpiral; the Irish might get (different to 2011) a viable&strong left party - until SF will have to participate in reigning one day (and will quite certainly disappoint expectations). |
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Post by right on Feb 9, 2020 18:44:57 GMT
We're about to find out, aren't we? PS: We now pause the election for a minute so RTÉ can embarrass an entire nation which thought it might have got over that sort of thing by still showing "The Angelus". Not quite my bag either, but I think it's rather sweet. Like Bells on Sunday or Thought for the Day. There are also some brilliant parodies of it on Youtube. Yes, but the Centrists only like diversity on their terms - not the idea that other cultures have legitimacy. One of the few fun things about the now ending Corbyn era was seeing them squeal when they got their own medicine force fed to them. |
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Post by greenhert on Feb 9, 2020 18:45:16 GMT
In how many constituencies did Sinn Fein not come first? I think I've seen two (Varadkar's and another one). They came second in Mayo. |
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Post by right on Feb 9, 2020 18:45:31 GMT
Any stitch up needs to be done with humility so it needs a fall guy Varadker As you were saying |
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Post by timrollpickering on Feb 9, 2020 18:46:53 GMT
Sinn Fein were also second in Dublin Bay South - the Greens came top with their leader Eamon Ryan elected on the first count.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Feb 9, 2020 18:48:07 GMT
Where do all these SF votes with no SF candidate to transfer to go? We're about to find out, aren't we? PS: We now pause the election for a minute so RTÉ can embarrass an entire nation which thought it might have got over that sort of thing by still showing "The Angelus". Is that actually more embarrassing than that this sorry excuse for a nation has just voted by a plurality for a bunch of murdering scumbags? |
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Post by edgbaston on Feb 9, 2020 18:48:43 GMT
Any stitch up needs to be done with humility so it needs a fall guy Varadker As you were saying LoL I hope they do end up in government with FF so they can be attacked from both the left and the right |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 18:49:10 GMT
Is there any chance that Sinn Fein + Greens + Labour + Social Democrats + People Before Profit + Independents could get enough TDs to have a majority and form an administration? Even if Sinn Fein win every seat they contest, the others would still need 39 between them, so probably not. |
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Post by greenhert on Feb 9, 2020 18:50:32 GMT
Dublin South-Central, count 1:
Aengus O Snodaigh (SF) 17,015 (elected)
Catherine Byrne (FG) 5,078
Catherine Ardagh (FF) 4,782
Brid Smith (Sol-PBP) 4,753
Patrick Costello (Green) 4,041
Joan Collins (I4C) 2,831
Rebecca Moynihan (Lab) 2,095
Tara Deacy (SD) 1,595
Serina Irvine (NP) 632
Richard Murray (Ind) 207
Alan Kerrigan (Ind) 146
Robert Foley (Ind) 78
Sean O'Leary (Ind) 38.
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Post by right on Feb 9, 2020 18:51:48 GMT
We're about to find out, aren't we? PS: We now pause the election for a minute so RTÉ can embarrass an entire nation which thought it might have got over that sort of thing by still showing "The Angelus". Is that actually more embarrassing than that this sorry excuse for a nation has just voted by a plurality for a bunch of murdering scumbags? To some deluded souls it is |
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Post by greenhert on Feb 9, 2020 18:52:21 GMT
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Post by right on Feb 9, 2020 18:54:58 GMT
TDs elected so far on first counts: Sinn Fein 18 Other Parties 3 Independents 2 12 first counts still to come |
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Post by timrollpickering on Feb 9, 2020 18:56:37 GMT
Mary Hanafin has been eliminated in Dún Laoghaire.
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Post by dizz on Feb 9, 2020 19:04:17 GMT
Mary Hanafin has been eliminated in Dún Laoghaire. I assume she will retire - especially coming second of the two FF candidates & out of the Dail since 2011 already. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 19:05:50 GMT
We're about to find out, aren't we? PS: We now pause the election for a minute so RTÉ can embarrass an entire nation which thought it might have got over that sort of thing by still showing "The Angelus". Is that actually more embarrassing than that this sorry excuse for a nation has just voted by a plurality for a bunch of murdering scumbags? the people have spoken, the bastards |
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Post by heslingtonian on Feb 9, 2020 19:06:21 GMT
Is there any chance that Sinn Fein + Greens + Labour + Social Democrats + People Before Profit + Independents could get enough TDs to have a majority and form an administration? Even if Sinn Fein win every seat they contest, the others would still need 39 between them, so probably not. They might get 30 between them aided by the SF transfers, 39 feels like too much of a stretch. |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Feb 9, 2020 19:08:55 GMT
So, will Mickey Martin be Angela Merkel or Franz von Papen?
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Post by timrollpickering on Feb 9, 2020 19:09:52 GMT
Dublin Mid West has once again said "Fuck you!" to Paul Gogarty.
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