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Post by manchesterman on May 12, 2018 20:37:07 GMT
..of which I wasn't previously aware (although others may have been). I'm sure this could be put to use by some (including me if I ever had the free time!) mapchart.net/uk-election.html
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Post by hullenedge on May 13, 2018 20:22:41 GMT
Had a play:- (Swing to Con 2017 = Dark Blue - strong Leave, Blue - Leave, Light Blue - Remain) (Swing to Lab 2017 = Pink - strong Leave, Red - Leave, Dark Red - Remain)
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Post by Merseymike on May 13, 2018 22:31:50 GMT
Had a play:- (Swing to Con 2017 = Dark Blue - strong Leave, Blue - Leave, Light Blue - Remain) (Swing to Lab 2017 = Pink - strong Leave, Red - Leave, Dark Red - Remain) I don't know whether the figures for Remain and Leave by constituency were done officially but I've seen the Bootle and Southport figures as Leave and Remain respectively. They were the other way round.
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Post by johnloony on May 14, 2018 0:36:01 GMT
What is the minimum number of constituencies you have to travel through to reach the coast? (Colour code as in snooker (only Hampstead & Kilburn scores more than 7).)
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Post by LDCaerdydd on May 14, 2018 12:41:00 GMT
I've tried to make a map of where I've lived, stayed and visited which was easy - traveled though proved more difficult, so I'm sure there are a few blanks, it's also hard as I can't remember for the life of me which route a National Express bus may or may not have taken.
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Post by carlton43 on May 14, 2018 13:04:44 GMT
I've tried to make a map of where I've lived, stayed and visited which was easy - traveled though proved more difficult, so I'm sure there are a few blanks, it's also hard as I can't remember for the life of me which route a National Express bus may or may not have taken. Explain the borders between 'stayed in' and 'lived in'? Explain the borders between 'visited' and 'stayed in'. I assume the border between 'travelled through' and 'visited' is an overnight stay? In which case case what defines 'visited' and 'stayed in'?
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Post by LDCaerdydd on May 14, 2018 13:08:17 GMT
Stayed in as in spent the night in a hotel or friends house etc.
Visited means visited for the day but not overnight.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 6:23:16 GMT
I've tried to make a map of where I've lived, stayed and visited which was easy - traveled though proved more difficult, so I'm sure there are a few blanks, it's also hard as I can't remember for the life of me which route a National Express bus may or may not have taken. I'm not going to do that.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 16, 2018 8:01:23 GMT
I've tried to make a map of where I've lived, stayed and visited which was easy - traveled though proved more difficult, so I'm sure there are a few blanks, it's also hard as I can't remember for the life of me which route a National Express bus may or may not have taken. Explain the borders between 'stayed in' and 'lived in'? Explain the borders between 'visited' and 'stayed in'. I assume the border between 'travelled through' and 'visited' is an overnight stay? In which case case what defines 'visited' and 'stayed in'? I'd have thought the distinction between the first two is obvious, The third can get more tricky - it often depends on the mode of transport. Flying through somewhere on a train obviously wouldn't count, flying through somewhere on the motorway may not either. But driving through on minor roads, going through and engaging with one of the local towns would possibly count as visiting. Stop for a bite to eat and it surely does.
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Post by carlton43 on May 16, 2018 8:20:18 GMT
Explain the borders between 'stayed in' and 'lived in'? Explain the borders between 'visited' and 'stayed in'. I assume the border between 'travelled through' and 'visited' is an overnight stay? In which case case what defines 'visited' and 'stayed in'? I'd have thought the distinction between the first two is obvious, The third can get more tricky - it often depends on the mode of transport. Flying through somewhere on a train obviously wouldn't count, flying through somewhere on the motorway may not either. But driving through on minor roads, going through and engaging with one of the local towns would possibly count as visiting. Stop for a bite to eat and it surely does. I was born during WW2 and before the NHS. I was born in a private nursing home and spent my first few days there, but consider that counts as 'living there', even though it was days only. I have never spent another night in that county in my life. When working I frequently had a night away and that would of course be a 'a visit' albeit for work. But sometimes I would be there for a week or three weeks. Was that living there? For one period i was as it were 'on supply' and could be somewhere for 10-weeks or even 4-months. That surely is living there? One makes friends, becomes a regular at a pub, uses shops, joins library, visits the doctor and employs a laundry, etc. If I were to do one of these maps I would probably qualify for living in at least 25 constituencies and staying in another 30 to 40 and visiting another few hundred at least. But the qualifications are difficult.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 16, 2018 8:54:53 GMT
I've erred on the side of 'visited' rather than travelled through for those places I have mostly only driven through because you are in the constituency and seeing it face to face so to speak but I've excluded those i've only travlled through by train or on a motorway where you really aren't there and some where I am too young to have been aware of the journey (such as that to Tenby). Mostly the blue ones though include places I have specifically visited - under interrogation I could say 'I have been to this place', I have been to the town of Tonbridge, I didn't just pass through the constituency on the M20 Edit: I've added a few more where I've stayed which I'd forgotten. Probably a few others I've missed here or there. I clearly must have travelled through Leominster or West Worcestershire or both otherwise I could not have been in the Hereford seat (as I came from the West Midlands conurbation) and obviously transited some of those in the Scottish central belt eg Livingstone
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 16, 2018 9:05:32 GMT
I'd have thought the distinction between the first two is obvious, The third can get more tricky - it often depends on the mode of transport. Flying through somewhere on a train obviously wouldn't count, flying through somewhere on the motorway may not either. But driving through on minor roads, going through and engaging with one of the local towns would possibly count as visiting. Stop for a bite to eat and it surely does. I was born during WW2 and before the NHS. I was born in a private nursing home and spent my first few days there, but consider that counts as 'living there', even though it was days only. I have never spent another night in that county in my life. When working I frequently had a night away and that would of course be a 'a visit' albeit for work. But sometimes I would be there for a week or three weeks. Was that living there? For one period i was as it were 'on supply' and could be somewhere for 10-weeks or even 4-months. That surely is living there? One makes friends, becomes a regular at a pub, uses shops, joins library, visits the doctor and employs a laundry, etc. If I were to do one of these maps I would probably qualify for living in at least 25 constituencies and staying in another 30 to 40 and visiting another few hundred at least. But the qualifications are difficult. There are always going to be grey areas but it's hardly very important. I have included two constituencies that I lived in for very brief periods - Colchester for barely a month and Brighton Pavilion for not much longer. For the latter I was basically dossing in a flat my parent owned from when my brother had studied at Sussex, but it was my address for that time, I signed on there etc. On the other hand I almost certainly spent more nights in total than in both those places in Bracknell Forest as I was seeing a woman in Sandhurst and spent most weekends there over a period of two or three years. But I wouldn't say that I lived there because I didn't - my home was in Watford.
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Post by Andrew_S on May 16, 2018 10:02:13 GMT
I've erred on the side of 'visited' rather than travelled through for those places I have mostly only driven through because you are in the constituency and seeing it face to face so to speak but I've excluded those i've only travlled through by train or on a motorway where you really aren't there and some where I am too young to have been aware of the journey (such as that to Tenby). Mostly the blue ones though include places I have specifically visited - under interrogation I could say 'I have been to this place', I have been to the town of Tonbridge, I didn't just pass through the constituency on the M20 At first I was surprised you hadn't visited the Norfolk Broads, but about one second later I thought that just because I've been there many times isn't a reason why anyone else should have visited the area.
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Post by The Bishop on May 16, 2018 11:54:36 GMT
So you have never been to either Furness or the Forest of Dean, then. I know I'm biased, but I would recommend both
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Post by Arthur Figgis on May 16, 2018 12:42:50 GMT
Um...
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on May 16, 2018 16:44:06 GMT
I wonder if we ought to be posting these maps in the "Useless Travel Facts" thread? And by "Visited", this also includes constituencies that I have travelled through, but other not really stopped to take in the local ambience or whatnot. The "Unsure" category is for constituencies that on balance of probabilities I may have passed through on past trips, but I'm unsure as to the exact route I took.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on May 16, 2018 17:07:13 GMT
So you have never been to either Furness or the Forest of Dean, then. I know I'm biased, but I would recommend both Forest of Dean should be yellow as I was looking at the wrong Severn bridge and I would have been over the original one which goes through the constituency. Also seems likely that I passed through the northern edge of the constituency as the M50 is the likely route I took from the Midlands to Cardiff. Barrow I think I have not visited but I spent a number of summer holidays in the Sedbergh area in the 70s and I've no idea what areas we might have visited in the general region
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Post by Foggy on May 16, 2018 22:55:05 GMT
This may be slightly inaccurate in places due to laziness, forgetfulness and misremembering things, but here goes nothing: It occurs to me that one of the reasons I sometimes is that I do not seem to 'get' even my country could be that I have seen far too little of it, and that I know far too much of the rest only from the window of a train, car or coach. If I were to go by Lord Twaddleford's categories then I could add St Albans as somewhere that relatives live but I haven't visited yet.
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Post by johnloony on May 17, 2018 1:21:55 GMT
I wish I had had an app or an implant or something which could have recorded all my journeys in the UK throughout my life so that I could do a similar map for myself. I don't know how you lot remember all the details.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 10:39:11 GMT
Where I've groundhopped
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