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Post by jluk234 on Apr 16, 2018 11:40:30 GMT
I recently discovered that Wolverhampton South West has been made up of the same wards since 1974!
Are there any other examples of current seats being made up of the same wards for a long time?
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Apr 16, 2018 11:47:46 GMT
I'm not sure that 'the same wards' is all that relevant because there are frequent ward boundary changes so in that case the boundaries of the constituency have changed as recently as 2010. Great Grimsby on the other hand has had the same external boundaries since 1950 but does not include the same wards as then because wards have been redrawn. Sutton & Cheam is virtually an unchanged seat since it was created in 1945 (again there have been a few voters switched between it and Carshalton due to ward boundary changes)
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Post by mondialito on Apr 16, 2018 11:59:12 GMT
Isle of Wight? Ynys Mon? Western Isles?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 12:01:29 GMT
Isle of Wight? Ynys Mon? Western Isles? Old Sarum?
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Post by carlton43 on Apr 16, 2018 13:08:29 GMT
Orkney and Shetland Argyll? Caithness and Sutherland
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 13:41:13 GMT
East Fife? Hexham?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 14:07:54 GMT
As others have mentioned, malapportioned island constituencies are good candidates.
Brecon & Radnorshire, Montgomeryshire and Ceredigion seem to have had little to no change since 1918.
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Post by Chris from Brum on Apr 16, 2018 14:29:40 GMT
As others have mentioned, malapportioned island constituencies are good candidates. Brecon & Radnorshire, Montgomeryshire and Ceredigion seem to have had little to no change since 1918. Ceredigion was joined up with Pembroke(shire) North between 1983-1997.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 14:36:35 GMT
City of London and...?
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Post by Lord Twaddleford on Apr 16, 2018 15:39:00 GMT
Orkney & Shetland hasn't changed its name or boundaries since 1708 (pre-dating the Union to at least 1661) and has almost consistently voted Whig, Liberal or Liberal Democrat since 1807. Ynys Môn/Anglesey hasn't changed its boundaries since it was created in 1536, with a name change from Anglesey to Ynys Môn taking effect from 1983 onwards. I suspect that Montgomeryshire is the oldest continuous mainland constituency in the UK, which has existed since 1542 with a name change from Montgomery to Montgomeryshire taking effect from 1918 onwards. I believe that it has retained the same boundaries since 1542. Montgomeryshire did undergo some minor boundary changes in the 2000s when it accquired Mochnant from Clwyd South, with said change first taking effect in 2007 for the Welsh Assembly, and then in 2010 for Westminster.
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Post by warofdreams on Apr 16, 2018 16:35:07 GMT
Orkney & Shetland hasn't changed its name or boundaries since 1708 (pre-dating the Union to at least 1661) and has almost consistently voted Whig, Liberal or Liberal Democrat since 1807. Ynys Môn/Anglesey hasn't changed its boundaries since it was created in 1536, with a name change from Anglesey to Ynys Môn taking effect from 1983 onwards. I suspect that Montgomeryshire is the oldest continuous mainland constituency in the UK, which has existed since 1542 with a name change from Montgomery to Montgomeryshire taking effect from 1918 onwards. I believe that it has retained the same boundaries since 1542. Montgomeryshire did undergo some minor boundary changes in the 2000s when it accquired Mochnant from Clwyd South, with said change first taking effect in 2007 for the Welsh Assembly, and then in 2010 for Westminster. There were some earlier boundary changes; according to Wikipedia, Carreghofa was added to the county in 1844. But all appear minor. Lincoln has existed since 1265 and, although its boundaries have repeatedly changed, it's always covered a similar area.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Apr 16, 2018 16:44:03 GMT
Wigan hasn't changed since 1412.
The constituency was created in 1885.
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Post by andrewteale on Apr 16, 2018 16:46:32 GMT
Orkney & Shetland hasn't changed its name or boundaries since 1708 (pre-dating the Union to at least 1661) and has almost consistently voted Whig, Liberal or Liberal Democrat since 1807. Ynys Môn/Anglesey hasn't changed its boundaries since it was created in 1536, with a name change from Anglesey to Ynys Môn taking effect from 1983 onwards. Ynys Môn only took on its current boundaries in 1885 when the Beaumaris District of Boroughs was abolished.
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Post by bjornhattan on Apr 16, 2018 18:03:32 GMT
Hexham is a good shout, at least out of the county constituencies in England. The only changes since 1885 appear to be losses to Berwick in the Rothbury area and gains from Morpeth/Wansbeck in Ponteland and surrounding areas of former Castle Morpeth. It helps that there aren't many boundaries to move - the north, west and south are county or national borders and Tynedale has quite a defined cultural orbit.
How similar are the boundaries of City of York and York Central? That'd surely be on par with Lincoln (albeit with a criminal name change)?
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Post by afleitch on Apr 16, 2018 18:19:43 GMT
In Scotland other than the Islands constituencies the only one unchanged since 1983 is East Renfrewshire.
If looking for continuity with the Holyrood seats rather than Westminster seats since 2005, North East Fife has been the same since 1983 except the loss of Lower Largo so we probably have to discount it.
Argyll and Bute and Dumbarton are effectively the same since 1983 barring a minor adjustment, likewise Cunninghame North and Cunninghame South.
However the ultimate survivor is Kilmarnock, unchanged since 1974.
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Post by Sibboleth on Apr 16, 2018 18:52:03 GMT
As others have mentioned, malapportioned island constituencies are good candidates. Brecon & Radnorshire, Montgomeryshire and Ceredigion seem to have had little to no change since 1918. The issues with Ceredigion have already been mentioned,* but Brecon & Radnor lost Brynmawr and the populated parts of the former Vaynor & Pederyn RD in 1983 (resulting in an important shift in the political balance) while Montgomery gained the Tanant Valley (historically in Denbighshire) at the last boundary review, which o/c is a less significant change than Brecon & Radnor's. *Apart from the minor issue wrt the boundaries of Cardigan town.
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Post by cherrycoffin on Apr 16, 2018 20:09:33 GMT
I think West Dorset would be up there. Dorchester and Sherborne, it’s largest towns, have been there since the late 19th century, as has much of the surrounding countryside
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Apr 16, 2018 20:48:07 GMT
As I understand it (Great) Grimsby hasn't had a boundary change since 1918? It has because it included Cleethorpes until 1950. It has been unchanged since that time (as I mentioned earlier in the thread)
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Post by Andrew_S on Apr 16, 2018 21:30:02 GMT
I don't think Putney has changed much over the decades.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 21:33:06 GMT
I think West Dorset would be up there. Dorchester and Sherborne, it’s largest towns, have been there since the late 19th century, as has much of the surrounding countryside It's not changed too much, but pre-1950 election maps show that it was clearly different - and Sherborne was in North Dorset! Since then, it doesn't seem to have changed much - Wikipedia suggests that there was minor changes to what part of West Dorset District is in South Dorset in 1983. Although technically, it could be argued that the two largest towns in West Dorset now have always been there since the 19th century - there are 3 urban parishes neighbouring the relatively small Bridport Parish, which brings Bridport from being slightly smaller than Sherborne to being a fair bit larger (population wise) - quite possibly hasn't always been the case though. The current proposals for boundary changes would take in the small village of Tincleton (within the WD district) in to the constituency from South Dorset - which is a completely non-controversial move. Parts of North Dorset would also be added (probably more controversial), whilst the village of Broadmayne and the Chickerell/Chesil Bank area would be removed in to South Dorset - the former makes sense to be in the same constituency as Dorchester (but such things aren't always possible), whilst Chickerell in particular and to a lesser extent the relevants parts of Chesil Bank make more sense to be in a constituency with Weymouth.
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