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Post by Georg Ebner on Nov 6, 2021 19:07:15 GMT
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Post by Toylyyev on Nov 6, 2021 21:57:59 GMT
Fribourg/Freiburg - last spring the town, this time the canton as a whole - will elect parliament&government tomorrow. The canton is usually praised/decried for being “so rural” and “so catholic (once)”. Less well-known is, that the canton was for centuries run by its capital – no city, but a formidable town - and was the earliest one, where an enclosed patriciate – the “bourgois secrets” – was formed. Since 1492 all these (sub)alpine towns had – despite being far away from being deprived - fallen into some sleep and the horizon was more limited than that of the peperzaks and this was in Freiburg even worse than in Bern or Basle. When those liberal republics were replaced by democracies (in the Jackson-years around 1830), the old liberal patriciate sided against the Democrats/Radicals with the Catholic&Conservative aristocrats&farmers (similar to Germany’s CentreParty, which hosted also not few liberals and regionalists alienated by the methods of v.BISMARCK) and exactly the Democrats’ democratization brought this alliance back into power few years later (similar to Turkey these days). Thus, FR participated 1846 on the side of the catholic&federalistic SonderBund (CH’s version of the ConFederates), lost and had to endure a “ReConstruction”. But as in the USA the second democratization brought the Cath.Cons. back into control. And in those days a lot of cath.&cons. specialities were tolerated by the federal Democratic governments, what would be today unthinkable. Fribourg had – contrary to all of its neighbours (Bern&Vaud, NeuChatel) - not taken over the Reformation and was as a result not only less cleanly than the selfrighteous Calvinists, but also now and again flooded by Catholic refugees: From St. P.CANISIUS (one of the most important Jesuits & CounterReformators) to those of Jacobinism, Hitlerism, Communism. Thus, when the plans to erect a Cath. university in my Salzburg failed, G.Python - who was leading the canton’s EducationDep. for over 40 (!) years - established a university, which is public, but partly financed by CH’s bishops. This ambitious&prestigious institution with reputable Catholic lecturers like G.v.REYNOLD and Python’s WelfarePrograms and “nationalizations” (=cantonalizations) of companies burdened a poor canton, which was&is per se settled – like the Aargau - between the big economies of Lausanne & Bern and where the old alliance of Cath.&Cons. and Liberals was since the late XIXth joined by the Radicals/DemoCrats in their fear of a SocialismSurge by industrialization. Yet, as FR is generally not encapsulated in the Alps like InnerCH the secularization began earlier and the collapse of the Church since Vaticanum II buried finally those old dreams of a “Catholic Republic” (a la Quebec, just with more intellectuality). Industry came with the RailWay (~1870ies), firstly mainly for food&wood. The economy has been diversifying, although in the public (self)image it is still “very rural” (albeit AgriCulture employing these days not more the usual 2% of the population). The capital had once in its lower area a proletariat, whose quartiers were perceived as one of the most deprived in CH, but on the other hand those were some kinds of “aristo-proles” (a la Cologne): Having a distinct identity, even their own MishMash of French&German. Apropos: The town Freiburg im ÜechtLand was once German-speaking, nowadays it’s 80%:20% and different to the university the town has no ambition to be biLingual. The university with its emphasis first on TheoLogy, then on Humanities, nowadays added by Technics/NatureSciences, hosts 10.000 students and 2.000 employees in a town of 40.000, so Fribourg is - a la OxBridge or Germany’s Tübingen/Marburg/Göttingen – dominated by this sector (unique in CH). It (has) had a reputation of being less progressistic than others, at least in TheoLogy, but as it is these days it’s certainly a major motor for the city’s & canton’s shift to the left. Another reason is, that while the canton’s perCentage of the Swiss population fell from over 4% (C’1888) to under 3% (C’1960&1970) its share has been increasing since then and recently FR has had the largest growth within CH. Mostly in the west, i.e. by commuters to Lausanne (once again similar to Aargau, the canton should - from a planning point of view - be dissolved...), who are attracted by the low prices of houses/flats (&taxes). Meaning, that the FrenchSpeakers widen their 2/3-majority, what will surely hurt SVP. A small support for SPS has been, that their exPartyPresident Levrat and his buddy, federal minister Berset (Welfare&Health), come from this canton. The last cantonal election was held in 2016, so still overshadowed by the ImmigrantFloods of summer 2015, what explains the quite good results for the (mid)right. So, the trends and the exceptional condition of last time make it very plausible, that the (mid)left will receive drastic gains tomorrow. A few glimpses at the place did tend to leave me impressed with the local culture, even if i'd be hard pressed to spell out where that stems from so far. And on a side note as i used to have Radio Canada running in the background before they went off the satellite, on informal perception there was no lack of sharp thinking back then. If anything they were overdoing it, and at times it even seems like a common trait beyond the provincial realm, with the caveat that i don't get to see the actual village that often nowadays.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Nov 7, 2021 12:01:17 GMT
Fribourg/Freiburg - last spring the town, this time the canton as a whole - will elect parliament&government tomorrow. The canton is usually praised/decried for being “so rural” and “so catholic (once)”. Less well-known is, that the canton was for centuries run by its capital – no city, but a formidable town - and was the earliest one, where an enclosed patriciate – the “bourgois secrets” – was formed. Since 1492 all these (sub)alpine towns had – despite being far away from being deprived - fallen into some sleep and the horizon was more limited than that of the peperzaks and this was in Freiburg even worse than in Bern or Basle. When those liberal republics were replaced by democracies (in the Jackson-years around 1830), the old liberal patriciate sided against the Democrats/Radicals with the Catholic&Conservative aristocrats&farmers (similar to Germany’s CentreParty, which hosted also not few liberals and regionalists alienated by the methods of v.BISMARCK) and exactly the Democrats’ democratization brought this alliance back into power few years later (similar to Turkey these days). Thus, FR participated 1846 on the side of the catholic&federalistic SonderBund (CH’s version of the ConFederates), lost and had to endure a “ReConstruction”. But as in the USA the second democratization brought the Cath.Cons. back into control. And in those days a lot of cath.&cons. specialities were tolerated by the federal Democratic governments, what would be today unthinkable. Fribourg had – contrary to all of its neighbours (Bern&Vaud, NeuChatel) - not taken over the Reformation and was as a result not only less cleanly than the selfrighteous Calvinists, but also now and again flooded by Catholic refugees: From St. P.CANISIUS (one of the most important Jesuits & CounterReformators) to those of Jacobinism, Hitlerism, Communism. Thus, when the plans to erect a Cath. university in my Salzburg failed, G.Python - who was leading the canton’s EducationDep. for over 40 (!) years - established a university, which is public, but partly financed by CH’s bishops. This ambitious&prestigious institution with reputable Catholic lecturers like G.v.REYNOLD and Python’s WelfarePrograms and “nationalizations” (=cantonalizations) of companies burdened a poor canton, which was&is per se settled – like the Aargau - between the big economies of Lausanne & Bern and where the old alliance of Cath.&Cons. and Liberals was since the late XIXth joined by the Radicals/DemoCrats in their fear of a SocialismSurge by industrialization. Yet, as FR is generally not encapsulated in the Alps like InnerCH the secularization began earlier and the collapse of the Church since Vaticanum II buried finally those old dreams of a “Catholic Republic” (a la Quebec, just with more intellectuality). Industry came with the RailWay (~1870ies), firstly mainly for food&wood. The economy has been diversifying, although in the public (self)image it is still “very rural” (albeit AgriCulture employing these days not more the usual 2% of the population). The capital had once in its lower area a proletariat, whose quartiers were perceived as one of the most deprived in CH, but on the other hand those were some kinds of “aristo-proles” (a la Cologne): Having a distinct identity, even their own MishMash of French&German. Apropos: The town Freiburg im ÜechtLand was once German-speaking, nowadays it’s 80%:20% and different to the university the town has no ambition to be biLingual. The university with its emphasis first on TheoLogy, then on Humanities, nowadays added by Technics/NatureSciences, hosts 10.000 students and 2.000 employees in a town of 40.000, so Fribourg is - a la OxBridge or Germany’s Tübingen/Marburg/Göttingen – dominated by this sector (unique in CH). It (has) had a reputation of being less progressistic than others, at least in TheoLogy, but as it is these days it’s certainly a major motor for the city’s & canton’s shift to the left. Another reason is, that while the canton’s perCentage of the Swiss population fell from over 4% (C’1888) to under 3% (C’1960&1970) its share has been increasing since then and recently FR has had the largest growth within CH. Mostly in the west, i.e. by commuters to Lausanne (once again similar to Aargau, the canton should - from a planning point of view - be dissolved...), who are attracted by the low prices of houses/flats (&taxes). Meaning, that the FrenchSpeakers widen their 2/3-majority, what will surely hurt SVP. A small support for SPS has been, that their exPartyPresident Levrat and his buddy, federal minister Berset (Welfare&Health), come from this canton. The last cantonal election was held in 2016, so still overshadowed by the ImmigrantFloods of summer 2015, what explains the quite good results for the (mid)right. So, the trends and the exceptional condition of last time make it very plausible, that the (mid)left will receive drastic gains tomorrow. A few glimpses at the place did tend to leave me impressed with the local culture, even if i'd be hard pressed to spell out where that stems from so far. And on a side note as i used to have Radio Canada running in the background before they went off the satellite, on informal perception there was no lack of sharp thinking back then. If anything they were overdoing it, and at times it even seems like a common trait beyond the provincial realm, with the caveat that i don't get to see the actual village that often nowadays. I guess You referred to my comparison of Fribourg with Quebec? I meant, that in Quebec they too had a lack of a form-giving aristoCracy or grandBourgeoisie, but contrary to FR with its refugees&university the French Americans played - not dissimilar to their neighbours in the south - more on the simple, but pious&healthy farmers of Quebec betrayed by weak Versailles and the bribed intelligentsia.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Nov 7, 2021 12:12:09 GMT
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Post by Georg Ebner on Nov 7, 2021 12:14:38 GMT
A word to the minister-elections: 3/7 inCumbents retire (1 from each CVP/Mid, FDP, SPS), what makes the race quite open and unpredictable. The 4 inCumbents should get as usual easily reelected in round II.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Nov 7, 2021 16:44:17 GMT
Cantonal parliament: Ministers: Nobody was elected. While in the chamber the left (incl. GreenLib.) received not more than its usual 40% (in federal elections), they performed surprisingly strong in the ExecutiveElec.. Sure, they were quite united (SPS & GPS & left[ex]catholic CSP), but still. In the RunOff they won't be able to add many more votes (apart from the weak GreenLib. and a very small "Artisan"Party). Nevertheless they could prevail, if FDP & CVP won't manage to get SVP (or at least most of its 4 candidates' voters) on board.
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Post by Toylyyev on Nov 7, 2021 20:29:25 GMT
Even if belated it seems worth mentioning this pretty good vote matcher smartvote.ch/fr/group/40/election/21_fr_exe/homesmartvote.ch/de/group/40/election/21_fr_exe/homeThe questions are in French/German, but the code does work with Google translate for me. Grand Conseil. Lists: 1. parti des artistes: 68% 2. Les VERT-E-S: 64% 3. Centre Gauche - PCS: 63%
I know nothing about the artists party, but said as is in French it would be anything but a compliment. Grand Conseil. Fribourg-Ville candidates: 1. Thierry Steiert: 72% - PS (Incumbant - Elected) 2. Diana Andrea: 70% - Vert·e·s 3. Jean-Thomas Vacher: 69% - Le Centre 4. Aurélie Cavin: 69% - Vert·e·s 5. Sabine Felder Michaud: 69% - CG-PCS 6. Inachi Marino Berner Bell: 69% - PA 7. Anne-Elisabeth Cattaneo Python: 68% - Le Centre 8. Simon Zurich: 68% - PS (Elected) 9. François Ingold: 68% - Vert·e·s (Incumbant - Elected) 10. Elisa Nobs: 68% - CG-PCS 11. David Ruffieux: 67% - Vert·e·s 12. Daniel Wismer: 67% - pvl 13. Simon Jordan: 66% - CG-PCS
The 13 best matches versus actually elected candidates by party Vert·e·s: 4 3 (Green) PS: 2 4 (Socialist) CG-PCS: 3 1 (Centre-Left - Christian Social) Le Centre: 2 2 (Centre) PLR: 0 2 (Liberal) PA: 1 0 (Artist) pvl: 1 0 (Green Liberal) UDC: 0 1 (Democratic Union of the Centre) (aka Swiss People's) Conseil d'État: 1. Sylvie Bonvin-Sansonnens: 73% - Les Verts ( 2. 30881 votes) 2. Alizée Rey: 69% - PS ( 6. 25402 votes) 3. Valérie Piller Carrard: 65% - PS ( 4. 30201 votes) 4. Claudio Rugo: 64% - PA (17. 3201 votes) 5. Nicole Ayer: 60% - DDSN (18. 1807 votes) 6. Sophie Tritten: 59% - CG-PCS ( 8. 24447 votes) 7. Michèle Courant: 57% - DDSN (19. 1589 votes)
The actual results of my matches are in brackets to the right and DDSN are Démocratie Directe Spiritualités et Nature: ( link - French) I'd tentatively call them Green Swiss People's.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Nov 8, 2021 1:24:27 GMT
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Post by Georg Ebner on Nov 8, 2021 1:26:26 GMT
2016, only german municipalities: 2016, only French municipalities: 2016, all: 2016-vs.-2021, german: 2016-2021, French: 2016-2021, all: 2021, german: 2021, French: 2021, all:
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Post by Georg Ebner on Nov 9, 2021 14:32:16 GMT
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Post by Georg Ebner on Nov 9, 2021 14:36:58 GMT
In FR the right lost, the left gained ~2% (many losses of the Others happened, because left parties had been included there 2016). OverView since the last federal election 2019:
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Post by Georg Ebner on Nov 9, 2021 14:39:35 GMT
Sudden&surprising reSurrection of FDP. The SVP-strategy to mobilise the land against the decadent-exploiting cities did not work in FR (but even the german minority there seems to be influenced by the dominant French).
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Post by Georg Ebner on Nov 27, 2021 18:23:02 GMT
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Post by Georg Ebner on Nov 28, 2021 14:49:03 GMT
Surprisingly, an united Right was able to fend off the attack of the Left, which had been united already in the first round (apart from GLP), for a third or even fourth minister. Very surprising, that the Right gained a fifth minister! For UDC/SVP!! But the a little bit panicing MidRight-voters carried the UDC-candidate through, too. Will be hard for them to defend 5/7 next time. Such things happen, especially in such rather open races, i mentioned Geneva 1993.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Nov 29, 2021 9:25:26 GMT
RunOff of the Minister-elections, FR split into its French ("Frz.FR") and german ("Dt.FR") districts (5 municipalities are situated in districts with a different language, hence the "~"): The French majority being nearly 5% to the left of the german minority. And would not have elected the UDC/SVP-man, whereas in the german part the 5 Righties were all ahead of the 4 Lefties.
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Post by Georg Ebner on Feb 18, 2022 23:31:29 GMT
The 2 cities in canton Zurich - ZurichCity and the other one, what's its name? - had elections last "sun"day: Winterthur, %: seats: ZurichCity, seats: CityMinisters: The reason, why local elections in the canton of Zurich are never totally unimportant, is, that the cantonal elections in spring 2023 will probably mirror the federal one in fall, as has happened often enough in the past:
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Post by Toylyyev on Feb 19, 2022 6:38:00 GMT
smartvote.ch/en/home cantonal election vote matchers for Nidwalden - 13/3: smartvote.ch/en/group/58/election/22_nw_leg/homeVaud - 20/3: smartvote.ch/en/group/53/election/22_vd_leg/homeBern - 27/3: smartvote.ch/en/group/52/election/22_be_leg/homeThe questions are in French or German, but the scripts work with google translate for me. My results for the 3 cantonal parliaments are as follows: State Council of Nidwalden - Lists
1. Grüne Nidwalden 70.5% 2. SP / JUSO 69.5% 3. Die Mitte Nidwalden 63.5%
State Council of Nidwalden - Stans constituency candidates
1. Lisa Heuberger - Die Mitte 79.5% 2. Steff Hürlimann - Grüne 74.5% 3. Verena Zemp - Grüne 69.5%
glp 5 Grüne 3 Die Mitte 1 SP 1 FDP 1
Grand Council of Vaud - Lists
1. Parti Pirate Vaudois 69.5% 2. Parti socialiste lausannois 67.5% 3. Les Vert.e.s et Jeunes Vert.e.s 66%
Grand Council of Vaud - Lausanne-Ville constituency candidates
1. Jean-Marc Béguin - PVL 76.5% 2. Andrea Münger - PS 75.5% 3. Lays Farra - POP 75%
PS 10 Vert.e.s 7 PVL 4 POP 3 Pirate 1 solid. 1
Grand Council of Bern - Lists
1. Sozialdemokratische Partei, JUSO und Gewerkschaften - Frauen (SP Frauen) 72% Sozialdemokratische Partei, JUSO und Gewerkschaften - Männer (SP Männer) 70.5% Jungsozialist*innen 69% 2. Junge Evangelische Volkspartei *jevp 70.5% Evangelische Volkspartei 67.5% 3. Junge Alternative JA! (Junge Grüne Stadt Bern) 70% Grünes Bündnis und Gewerkschafter*innen 70% Grüne Freie Liste Stadt Bern 70%
Grand Council of Bern - Bern constituency candidates
1. Rahel Steinmann-Marti - jevp 78.5% 2. Christoph Leuppi - GFL 78.5% 3. Barbara Streit-Stettler - EVP 77%
EVP+jevp 5+2 SP+JUSO 5+1 GFL 3 GB 1 jglp 1 AL 1 JA! 1
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Post by Georg Ebner on Mar 13, 2022 1:43:08 GMT
NidWalden&ObWalden, 2 small "cantons" (de iure they are only "semi-cantons" forming together 1 canton; de facto this means not more, than having just 1 seat in the Senate respectively, everywhere else they are independent from each other) will renew parliament&government. Both are in the Inner-CH, so once very cath.&cons. and also these days rather not, where a revolution would emerge first... Elec.res. for NidWalden (=LowerWalden): - NationalRat (=federal LowerHouse): - StändeRat (=Senate): - cantonal parliament: - cantonal government (7 directly elected ministers; above split into sexes): The same for ObWalden (=UpperWalden):
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Post by Georg Ebner on Mar 13, 2022 14:30:15 GMT
Dark day for the FDP: In both semiCantons they lost 1 ministra (and as a conSequence SVP&FDP their majorites in the governments); in ObWalden the GreenLiberals, who were founded not earlier than last year, gained the seat, in NidWalden TheMid (exCVP), who had nominated a second candidate more for avoiding an unopposed reElection of the inCumbents. ObWalden: - parliament, seats (in % SVP is ahead, though): - government: NidWalden: - government: - parliament: not fully counted so far
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Post by Georg Ebner on Mar 13, 2022 14:50:17 GMT
ObWalden, parliament, vote-%: Together with a second list (of its YouthAssoc.) TheMid remained ahead of the SVP.
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