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Post by carlton43 on Oct 29, 2017 9:59:40 GMT
I used to assume that the constituency of Strangford contained the village of Strangford. The consitutency is, of course, named after the Lough. Did you mean Louth? Or are they just poor Lincs?
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Post by minionofmidas on Oct 29, 2017 11:09:45 GMT
How have we got this far into the thread without mentioning West Derby? Looking forward to a future commission adding a few wards outside the city and striking the "Liverpool" from the name a la Garston/Blackley/Wythenshawe (the only place among these where that made limited sense). Preferrably while a Derby West constituency is also in existence.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Oct 29, 2017 12:33:24 GMT
Unfortunately they wanted to put it outside my house! But with no easy access. How Great Missenden feels about HS2. Funnily enough I've got no problem with HS2 passing our 'ouse. well, c.200m away.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 13:32:45 GMT
I didn't know such a thing ever existed, that's genuinely bizarre The river used to be the boundary between Staffordshire and Warwickshire I think. Most of the old town centre is north of the river but these days something like 80% of the population of the town live south of the river. You've just destroyed my justification for supporting Warwickshire Ccc (father is from Tamworth North of the river, which I thought to be historically Warwickshire)
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Post by maxque on Oct 30, 2017 11:33:47 GMT
The consitutency is, of course, named after the Lough. Did you mean Louth? Or are they just poor Lincs? No, the Strangford Louth.
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Post by carlton43 on Oct 30, 2017 11:52:07 GMT
Oh dear! oh dear!
What a lot of humourless literalist nits you all are. Of course i know where every constituency is and i have visited most of them.
It was the original incorrect use of Bethan green and Bow that caused my posts. All lost on you lot!!!
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Post by Foggy on Oct 30, 2017 19:32:12 GMT
Oh dear! oh dear! What a lot of humourless literalist nits you all are. Of course i know where every constituency is and i have visited most of them. It was the original incorrect use of Bethan green and Bow that caused my posts. All lost on you lot!!! I got the reference... the second time round. Bethan Green sounds like an Assembly Member more than a Welsh constituency anyway.
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Post by ccoleman on Oct 30, 2017 19:53:19 GMT
Oh dear! oh dear! What a lot of humourless literalist nits you all are. Of course i know where every constituency is and i have visited most of them.It was the original incorrect use of Bethan green and Bow that caused my posts. All lost on you lot!!! Is this common knowledge? I don't know what parts of the country you have or have not been to, so my apologies. Anyway, I of course meant Bethnal Green and Bow. I have no idea how I ended up typing 'Bethan'.
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Post by froome on Oct 30, 2017 20:10:45 GMT
Gloucestershire also has a Leigh (not to mention a Barrow and Barnsley) I think I've heard of its Leigh and Barrow now that you mention it, but am not familiar with a Barnsley other than the Yorkshire one. The Gloucestershire Barnsley is a very pretty Cotswold village with one of the county's loveliest gardens that is open to the public. There are Leighs and Barrows in most counties. Bristol West could be argued to cover no part of western Bristol at all (which is all in Bristol North West), and should just be Bristol Central.
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Post by greenhert on Oct 30, 2017 22:15:51 GMT
Someone suggested that the current Bristol West be renamed Bristol Central in light of this back in 2006 when the last boundary review took place, but the BCE turned down that suggestion.
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Post by Adrian on Oct 31, 2017 0:32:28 GMT
The river used to be the boundary between Staffordshire and Warwickshire I think. Most of the old town centre is north of the river but these days something like 80% of the population of the town live south of the river. You've just destroyed my justification for supporting Warwickshire Ccc (father is from Tamworth North of the river, which I thought to be historically Warwickshire) The boundary went down Gungate and Church Street. maps.nls.uk/view/101584516
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Post by froome on Oct 31, 2017 10:56:19 GMT
Bristol West should, at the very least, not contain Easton ward, anything east of the M32 or anywhere to the north or east of railway stations on the Severn Beach line (and indeed given the shape of Bristol properit arguably isn't possible to put together a viable seat truly worthy of the name 'Bristol West' anyway). Taunton 'Deane' makes it sound like it must be some other Taunton, rather than the familiar county town of Somerset. Any seat with 'Deeside' in the name is provocatively ambiguous. Arundel and South Downs misses out the prettiest parts of said National Park. Banff of Banff and Buchan fame is clearly in Canada. Blackley and Broughton could be in lots of different places. Bootle is of course a safe Tory ward in Cumberland (same reason 'Egremont' should never be the name for a constituency). Skegness appears to be combined with the capital of Massachusetts. Bradford-on-Avon looked at first to have been allotted 3 seats to itself which seemed rather generous, but apparently there's some city in West Yorkshire that's considered more deserving. The Brent area of Somerset would be even luckier with its apportionment... if there weren't a London Borough of the same name. The Pavilion in Brighton shouldn't get a constituency all to itself. Castle Point could be almost anywhere. Charnwood sounds fictional. Christchurch is hit by earthquakes too frequently to be a proper British seat. Corby is only a make of trouser press and nothing more. 'Rainham' shouldn't be in a constituency name unless the one in Essex and the one in Kent can establish which is the 'real' one. For that matter, 'Ashford' could just as easily be the one in Middlesex. 'Don Valley' never contained the eponymous stadium. Easington lies in the south-eastern corner of East Riding, not in Durham. Eddisbury could've been anywhere. Edmonton is evidently in Alberta. The name 'Walton' shouldn't have the brass neck to turn up in both a Liverpool seat and a Surrey one! "Great" Grimsby must be some other Grimsby rather than the rubbish one in Lincolnshire, but Yarmouth is permitted a 'Great' to distinguish it from the one on the Isle of Wight. 'Hazel Grove' could be anywhere if you're not familiar with the area. Hemsworth is merely the surname of the actor who plays (the Marvel version of) Thor and clearly not an actual place. There are enough Middletons to go around without one laying claim to be worthy of forming part of the name of a parliamentary seat. The capital of Jamaica has no business being paired with Surbiton. Southam and Southport did not appear to lie sufficiently far south to justify their names. Leigh is blatantly a village in Dorset. West Derby can't possibly be located on the Mersey, can it? Meriden looked similar enough to 'meridian' (and indeed ITV Meridian) to feel like it should be found further south than it is as well. The southern part of Middlesbrough doesn't stretch to Lake Erie. Newark does not contain the airport in New Jersey that its name promises. There are plenty of other Normantons, with no reason for the one in West Yorkshire to take precedence. Rayleigh is a bicycle manufacturing company and a place in North Carolina. The English Rochester ceased to exist in 1996 so the only famous one is now in upstate New York. 'Ross' is in Herefordshire, not the far north of Scotland. As mentioned, Rother Valley is in the wrong part of the country as the proper river Rother flows through Sussex rather than Yorkshire. The central part of the village of Sefton is far too small for a seat on its own. 'South Holland' is a province of the Netherlands, although the Deepings aren't located abroad. St Ives is in Huntingdonshire. It wasn't obvious to me for years where Stone is (a sign that Bill Cash literally lives under a rock, perhaps?)... at least it's next to Stoke-on-Trent both geographically and alphabetically! Stratford-on-Avon is neither the correct Stratford (that's where the Olympic Park is) or on the right Avon. Cheam gives little clue as to which 'Sutton' is its neighbour. Vauxhall Motors FC don't play in Vauxhall constituency. 'Weaver Vale' is just plain silly. Here's a challenge for you. See if you can come up with names for all 635 constituencies which ensure there can be no confusion as to where they are at all. I suspect that would mean about half of the constituency names would have to be changed, and some would be difficult to find replacements for. For instance the two Swindon seats would have to go, as they could be confused with Swindon in Gloucestershire, so they may end up being called Highworth (for North) and Wroughton (for South). Kingswood would probably have to be renamed something like Hanham (and there may well be another of those somewhere so even that might not be suitable). Thornbury and Yate would have to change, as there are Thornburys elsewhere (and probably Yates elsewhere as well).
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Post by Foggy on Oct 31, 2017 17:37:57 GMT
On current boundaries, I would call Thornbury & Yate 'Pucklechurch' because it sounds more unusual than those two towns and because I used to live there. On the proposed boundaries, I would use that name for Kingswood.
It might not even be possible to come up with non-ambiguous names for all 650 seats, now that you mention it... but there certainly don't need to be as many questionable ones as there are at the moment.
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Post by YL on Oct 31, 2017 20:28:38 GMT
Was anyone in Sussex confused by the old Sheffield Park constituency?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 20:47:16 GMT
West Aberdeenshire & Kincardine actually covers the south of the council area.
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Post by yellowperil on Oct 31, 2017 20:51:48 GMT
Was anyone in Sussex confused by the old Sheffield Park constituency? No more than men of Kent confused by any of the Leeds constituencies.
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Oct 31, 2017 21:05:22 GMT
The one constituency that always used to muddle me (before I knew where they all were) was The Wrekin. When I lived in Welshpool, I could see the Wrekin from my house and yet when I found out it used to encapsulate Telford that made no sense at the time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 23:03:43 GMT
West Aberdeenshire & Kincardine actually covers the south of the council area. I hope you aren’t suggesting Kincardine is in Aberdeenshire *grabs pitchfork* Aberdeenshire council area yes.
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Post by Foggy on Nov 1, 2017 3:44:58 GMT
Was anyone in Sussex confused by the old Sheffield Park constituency? Before I looked it up, I thought it would've been the forerunner of Wealden.
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Post by timrollpickering on Nov 1, 2017 10:14:48 GMT
I hope you aren’t suggesting Kincardine is in Aberdeenshire *grabs pitchfork* Aberdeenshire council area yes. I didn't realise it stretched that far south. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kincardine
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