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Post by right on Mar 15, 2017 13:15:47 GMT
I've regarded the Lib Dems as fundamentally irrelevant to Brexit, but Andy Coulson thinks that with admittedly a massive shake up they could seriously derail Brexit: www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/how-to-stop-brexitThe first step is getting funding - which as the quarterly returns show them as already outstripping Labour on that front may not be too much of a stretch.
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 15, 2017 13:19:41 GMT
I've regarded the Lib Dems as fundamentally irrelevant to Brexit, but Andy Coulson thinks that with admittedly a massive shake up they could seriously derail Brexit: www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/how-to-stop-brexitThe first step is getting funding - which as the quarterly returns show them as already outstripping Labour on that front may not be too much of a stretch. So if they weren't who they are, and their leader wasn't who he is, and they received huge amounts of one off donations that they don't currently have they would be able to stop Brexit. Hmm. Oh, and Andy Coulson!
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Post by right on Mar 15, 2017 13:22:34 GMT
I've regarded the Lib Dems as fundamentally irrelevant to Brexit, but Andy Coulson thinks that with admittedly a massive shake up they could seriously derail Brexit: www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/how-to-stop-brexitThe first step is getting funding - which as the quarterly returns show them as already outstripping Labour on that front may not be too much of a stretch. So if they weren't who they are, and their leader wasn't who he is, and they received huge amounts of one off donations that they don't currently have they would be able to stop Brexit. Hmm. Well yes. But they are getting some new funding and there is definitely the feeling that there is more money waiting on the shelf from people such as those funding Gina Miller and with the Blair\Branson effort (that's got nowhere).
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Post by The Bishop on Mar 15, 2017 13:23:11 GMT
I've regarded the Lib Dems as fundamentally irrelevant to Brexit, but Andy Coulson thinks that with admittedly a massive shake up they could seriously derail Brexit: www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/how-to-stop-brexitThe first step is getting funding - which as the quarterly returns show them as already outstripping Labour on that front may not be too much of a stretch. Let's be clear about this - it was due to a single one-off mega donation.
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 15, 2017 13:24:32 GMT
So if they weren't who they are, and their leader wasn't who he is, and they received huge amounts of one off donations that they don't currently have they would be able to stop Brexit. Hmm. Well yes. But they are getting some new funding and there is definitely the feeling that there is more money waiting on the shelf from people such as those funding Gina Miller and with the Blair\Branson effort (that's got nowhere). see bish's comment below (above?). Also, the lib dems have a rather unfortunate history as far as one off donations are concerned (and yes, they are not alone in this).
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Post by right on Mar 15, 2017 13:49:40 GMT
I've regarded the Lib Dems as fundamentally irrelevant to Brexit, but Andy Coulson thinks that with admittedly a massive shake up they could seriously derail Brexit: www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/how-to-stop-brexitThe first step is getting funding - which as the quarterly returns show them as already outstripping Labour on that front may not be too much of a stretch. Let's be clear about this - it was due to a single one-off mega donation. True, but Coulson's point is that there is a lot more mega money looking for a way to disrupt Brexit. Guido at least implied that this was why this donation came in. So it might be a one off event or it might be a pattern of such donations.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Mar 15, 2017 16:40:42 GMT
"The LibDems need a new leader"... from a choice of eight, seven if you discount Clegg. "...who should be a woman"... so, down to a choice of one. "...with a business background, plenty of dosh"... so.... down to a field of zero?
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Post by right on Mar 15, 2017 17:15:28 GMT
"The LibDems need a new leader"... from a choice of eight, seven if you discount Clegg. "...who should be a woman"... so, down to a choice of one. "...with a business background, plenty of dosh"... so.... down to a field of zero? There was a picture of Gina Miller in the article
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Post by Strontium Dog on Mar 15, 2017 17:18:48 GMT
Even in these brave new times, I'm not sure Labour supporter Gina Miller is the ideal Lib Dem leader.
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Post by cherrycoffin on Mar 15, 2017 18:24:40 GMT
That article seemed like nothing more than clickbait to me. Offer no real solutions or strategies and hope enough people read it so he gets enough money from writing the thing...
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Post by goodoldcause on Mar 15, 2017 19:34:20 GMT
Well, that was a waste of 30 seconds of my precious life.
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 15, 2017 19:55:33 GMT
Well, that was a waste of 30 seconds of my precious life. I've never had you down as a slow reader goc.....
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Post by Khunanup on Mar 15, 2017 20:06:35 GMT
I've regarded the Lib Dems as fundamentally irrelevant to Brexit, but Andy Coulson thinks that with admittedly a massive shake up they could seriously derail Brexit: www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/how-to-stop-brexitThe first step is getting funding - which as the quarterly returns show them as already outstripping Labour on that front may not be too much of a stretch. Who are the idiots who pay Coulson to write this garbage? These media idiots pay all kinds of hasbeens and know nothings who gave nothing of any interest to say, Coulson is just one of a cast of thousands.
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Post by right on Mar 15, 2017 20:18:46 GMT
I've regarded the Lib Dems as fundamentally irrelevant to Brexit, but Andy Coulson thinks that with admittedly a massive shake up they could seriously derail Brexit: www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/how-to-stop-brexitThe first step is getting funding - which as the quarterly returns show them as already outstripping Labour on that front may not be too much of a stretch. Who are the idiots who pay Coulson to write this garbage? These media idiots pay all kinds of hasbeens and know nothings who gave nothing of any interest to say, Coulson is just one of a cast of thousands. It was trite, but there's a key point to it. If you have money and want to stop Brexit, where are you going to go? The judges won't touch it, Labour is going along with it, the SNP aren't interested and everyone else is even more ineffective than the Liberals. The Lib Dems can fight elections and can act as the vehicle of pro Europeans. Or at least that's Coulson's argument.
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Post by johnr on Mar 15, 2017 20:27:55 GMT
Even in these brave new times, I'm not sure Labour supporter Gina Miller is the ideal Lib Dem leader. Why not? Corbyn's office thought that a Lib Dem supporter was the ideal Copeland candidate.
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 15, 2017 20:30:13 GMT
Who are the idiots who pay Coulson to write this garbage? These media idiots pay all kinds of hasbeens and know nothings who gave nothing of any interest to say, Coulson is just one of a cast of thousands. It was trite, but there's a key point to it. If you have money and want to stop Brexit, where are you going to go? The judges won't touch it, Labour is going along with it, the SNP aren't interested and everyone else is even more ineffective than the Liberals. The Lib Dems can fight elections and can act as the vehicle of pro Europeans. Or at least that's Coulson's argument. I think everyone realises that the Lib Dems have positioned themselves at the vehicle of pro europeanism. That has been the case for decades to a greater or lesser extent. To jump from there to say they could derail the process is a stretch that Mr Fantastic would be proud of.
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Post by right on Mar 15, 2017 20:50:54 GMT
It was trite, but there's a key point to it. If you have money and want to stop Brexit, where are you going to go? The judges won't touch it, Labour is going along with it, the SNP aren't interested and everyone else is even more ineffective than the Liberals. The Lib Dems can fight elections and can act as the vehicle of pro Europeans. Or at least that's Coulson's argument. I think everyone realises that the Lib Dems have positioned themselves at the vehicle of pro europeanism. That has been the case for decades to a greater or lesser extent. To jump from there to say they could derail the process is a stretch that Mr Fantastic would be proud of. To play fantasy evil billionaire, who would you give £5 million to in order to stop Brexit?
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Post by finsobruce on Mar 15, 2017 20:53:06 GMT
I think everyone realises that the Lib Dems have positioned themselves at the vehicle of pro europeanism. That has been the case for decades to a greater or lesser extent. To jump from there to say they could derail the process is a stretch that Mr Fantastic would be proud of. To play fantasy evil billionaire, who would you give £5 million to in order to stop Brexit? I wouldn't give it to anyone, because I don't believe in throwing bad money after good. And then to the pub. anyone coming?
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Post by Strontium Dog on Mar 15, 2017 21:00:13 GMT
To play fantasy evil billionaire, who would you give £5 million to in order to stop Brexit? Carlos the Jackal.
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Post by joe on Mar 15, 2017 22:02:25 GMT
I don't believe in throwing bad money after good. Are you sure that you are a socialist!!
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