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Post by BossMan on Feb 12, 2017 16:05:25 GMT
Frank-Walter Steinmeier has been elected President of Germany by the Federal Convention on the first ballot. The result: | Frank-Walter Steinmeier | SPD | 931 | 81.96 | | Christoph Butterwegge | Die Linke | 128 | 11.27 | | Albrecht Glaser | AfD | 42 | 3.70 | | Alexander Hold | Free Voters | 25 | 2.20 | | Engelbert Sonneborn | Ind | 10 | 0.88 |
In addition to these figures, there were 103 abstentions and 14 invalid votes. |
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Post by Foggy on Feb 12, 2017 18:48:15 GMT
I estimate that the parties backing Steinmeier combined should have seen him home with 1,107 votes, so he's quite some way off that. That probably explains the unusually high proportion of abstentions and rejected ballots.
Die Linke should've only had 95 votes, so they perhaps got some extra support from dissident Greens?
The AfD held 35 seats in the Assembly and perhaps found a few additional votes from the CSU – plus one from Erika Steinbach?
The Free Voters in theory controlled just 11 seats, so Hold did very well to more than double his expected performance... maybe from FDP rebels??
The Pirates and Die PARTEI combined should've come to 11 votes as well, so somebody let their side down.
The first three assertions above are pure guesswork as it's a secret ballot.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Feb 12, 2017 19:43:25 GMT
Butterwegge might have had a better tally than expected because he was a long-term SPD activist, and is more a dull Marxoid rather than an apologist for totalitarianism like some former Die Linke/PDS candidates for the presidency.
Past candidates include Peter Sodann, an actor who makes some fairly dubious comments about the nature of democracy in Germany despite having been imprisoned by Die Linke's predecessors; the revolting Beate Klarsfeld, who doesn't like apologists for totalitarianism but happily sits with obvious totalitarians and fellow travellers; and Uta Ranke-Heinemann, a pacifist who ran for them despite their extremely questionable record in defending the invasion of other countries.
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Post by maxque on Feb 12, 2017 21:17:27 GMT
Butterwegge might have had a better tally than expected because he was a long-term SPD activist, and is more a dull Marxoid rather than an apologist for totalitarianism like some former Die Linke/PDS candidates for the presidency. Past candidates include Peter Sodann, an actor who makes some fairly dubious comments about the nature of democracy in Germany despite having been imprisoned by Die Linke's predecessors; the revolting Beate Klarsfeld, who doesn't like apologists for totalitarianism but happily sits with obvious totalitarians and fellow travellers; and Uta Ranke-Heinemann, a pacifist who ran for them despite their extremely questionable record in defending the invasion of other countries. Interesting, her son Arno was an adviser to Sarkozy and an UMP candidate in 2007 legislative election (in a disastrous campaign, where he claimed he wasn't a carperbagger, because he crossed the constituency he was running in during the Paris Marathon). |
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Feb 12, 2017 22:06:25 GMT
Butterwegge might have had a better tally than expected because he was a long-term SPD activist, and is more a dull Marxoid rather than an apologist for totalitarianism like some former Die Linke/PDS candidates for the presidency. Past candidates include Peter Sodann, an actor who makes some fairly dubious comments about the nature of democracy in Germany despite having been imprisoned by Die Linke's predecessors; the revolting Beate Klarsfeld, who doesn't like apologists for totalitarianism but happily sits with obvious totalitarians and fellow travellers; and Uta Ranke-Heinemann, a pacifist who ran for them despite their extremely questionable record in defending the invasion of other countries. Interesting, her son Arno was an adviser to Sarkozy and an UMP candidate in 2007 legislative election (in a disastrous campaign, where he claimed he wasn't a carperbagger, because he crossed the constituency he was running in during the Paris Marathon). Yes, he's a clownish version of his mother. Top fact- when she slapped Kiesinger, she engaged as her lawyer the infamous Horst Mahler. |
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