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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 2, 2017 1:44:15 GMT
Poll by GMS:
39 CDU 23 SPD 10 FDP 08 AfD 08 Greens 08 Left 04 ...
49 for CDU&FDP 57 for MidRight
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Post by Georg Ebner on Jun 6, 2017 0:56:44 GMT
Hope for SPD is dawning?: EMNID polled an increase from 25% to 27%. Could be an OneOff, of course, nontheless the first up for weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 13:48:47 GMT
Infratest dimap 6-7 June
CDU/CSU 38% (nc) SPD 24% (-2) FDP 10% (+1) AfD 9% (nc) Die Linke 8% (+2) Greens 7% (-1) Others 4% (nc)
CDU/CSU+FDP 48% Red-Red-Green 39%
Schulzmentum has now completely evaporated.
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Post by Trab on Jun 13, 2017 2:02:42 GMT
The German left needs to start over, imo. Jesus Christ, what a horrible situation.
Anyway, I dislike Die Linke but obviously I'd vote for them in a heartbeat over the party of Merkel, a shitty third-way party, & a crypto-fascist party.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 13, 2017 7:39:43 GMT
The German left needs to start over, imo. Jesus Christ, what a horrible situation. Anyway, I dislike Die Linke but obviously I'd vote for them in a heartbeat over the party of Merkel, a shitty third-way party, & a crypto-fascist party. Given a choice of a would-be totalitarian far-right party and apologists for the terror of the DDR, I'd have to spoil my ballot.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 13, 2017 8:12:35 GMT
On an unrelated note, and one BossMan will surely have a view on, a discussion at work today- grimmest place in Germany you've been to. The front-running nominee, of which I've not had the dubious pleasure, is Duisburg.
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Post by mrpastelito on Jun 13, 2017 10:20:36 GMT
On an unrelated note, and one BossMan will surely have a view on, a discussion at work today- grimmest place in Germany you've been to. The front-running nominee, of which I've not had the dubious pleasure, is Duisburg. Riesa, although tbf that was back in 1991 and things will have changed a lot since then. But my... everything was just either black, or grey. The epitome of grim. Leipzig and Dresden were bright, cheerful cities in comparison.
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Post by BossMan on Jun 13, 2017 11:11:27 GMT
On an unrelated note, and one BossMan will surely have a view on, a discussion at work today- grimmest place in Germany you've been to. The front-running nominee, of which I've not had the dubious pleasure, is Duisburg. Essen was pretty bad back in the day, especially around Steele but is a lot better now. I was offered the job in 2013 of running the IT dept of Landkreis Märkisch-Oderland, whilst parts were very pretty, a lot of the housing and manufacturing plants looked abandoned which wasn't surprising given the the depopulation of the area after Die Wende. This might add rural charm in 20 years or so, but not at the moment. However, the absolute prize went to Eisenhüttenstadt. Grim and abandoned. Worst place I've seen in Germany.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 13, 2017 11:55:33 GMT
Gelsenkirchen is pretty bad. Worst single place I've been in Germany is Emmertsgrund outside Heidelberg. A classic "dump them in the countryside and it'll be great" affair. A "neue Heimat" estate if anyone is familiar with that.
When it started to get grim, Heidelberg dumped its problem families there.
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Post by maxque on Jun 13, 2017 12:10:20 GMT
Not being an Germany expert, I would assume they are all in the East?
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Post by The Bishop on Jun 13, 2017 12:27:01 GMT
Gelsenkirchen (maybe best known to many as the home of Schalke 04) certainly isn't. Nor is Essen come to that.
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Jun 13, 2017 12:41:11 GMT
On an unrelated note, and one BossMan will surely have a view on, a discussion at work today- grimmest place in Germany you've been to. The front-running nominee, of which I've not had the dubious pleasure, is Duisburg. I've been to Duisberg- it was just before the 2014 EU elections, and all the political parties had stalls along the main shopping street. The NPD's was 'guarded' by a couple of thugs in some kind of uniform, standing bold upright presenting flags. Suspect the party would not approve of what I was thinking.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 12:50:22 GMT
Not being an Germany expert, I would assume they are all in the East? Duisburg, Essen and Gelsenkirchen are all part of the Ruhr metropolis. I don't mind any of them, though I am fonder of postwar architecture than a lot of people. They're fairly smart and well maintained, not run down (at least not in the centres).
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 13, 2017 13:16:08 GMT
Not being an Germany expert, I would assume they are all in the East? Duisburg, Essen and Gelsenkirchen are all part of the Ruhr metropolis. I don't mind any of them, though I am fonder of postwar architecture than a lot of people. They're fairly smart and well maintained, not run down (at least not in the centres). I don't know the first two well- Gelsenkirchen is certainly grim further out. Duisburg is reputed to be very bad in the outer parts- Beeck especially.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 13, 2017 13:18:20 GMT
My favourite city in Germany is Düsseldorf. Brilliant place and not very much visited by Brits other than for work.
Especially on building sites with a couple of Geordies and several regional representatives including a dour Brummie and a big Bristolian.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Jun 13, 2017 13:42:25 GMT
I guess Hellersdorf but it wasn't that bad compared to estates I've seen in Paris, Amsterdam or several British cities. I've not been to that many places in Germany altogether though
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Post by BossMan on Jun 13, 2017 16:23:20 GMT
My favourite city in Germany is Düsseldorf. Brilliant place and not very much visited by Brits other than for work. Especially on building sites with a couple of Geordies and several regional representatives including a dour Brummie and a big Bristolian. Worked there for 9 months or so at the end of the 80's for DEMAG, lived just off Corneliusstraße, I quite enjoyed living there, but if I was going to live anywhere in Germany, it would probably be somewhere around München.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 13, 2017 16:59:13 GMT
My favourite city in Germany is Düsseldorf. Brilliant place and not very much visited by Brits other than for work. Especially on building sites with a couple of Geordies and several regional representatives including a dour Brummie and a big Bristolian. Worked there for 9 months or so at the end of the 80's for DEMAG, lived just off Corneliusstraße, I quite enjoyed living there, but if I was going to live anywhere in Germany, it would probably be somewhere around München. Last time I went I stayed on Luisenstrasse just off Corneliusstrasse. Personally I would live in or near Bonn, Heidelberg or Aachen.
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Post by Foggy on Jun 13, 2017 17:18:29 GMT
Given a choice of a would-be totalitarian far-right party and apologists for the terror of the DDR, I'd have to spoil my ballot. I'd probably do the same, but apologists for the DDR régime are so objectionable that I'd almost be tempted to vote for the former option. On an unrelated note, and one BossMan will surely have a view on, a discussion at work today- grimmest place in Germany you've been to. I haven't seen as much of Germany as I'd like, but the badly-rebuilt Pforzheim (where the AfD currently holds a Direktmandat in the Landtag) is only edged out by Fennpfuhl in East Berlin. All the towns in Saxony I've been to and the small part of urban NRW I visited 18 months ago were actually rather pleasant.
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Post by Devil Wincarnate on Jun 13, 2017 20:22:56 GMT
How did I forget Ludwigshafen and Mannheim? Mannheim is very rum.
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