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Post by gwynthegriff on Feb 1, 2017 20:17:47 GMT
My info is that it's basically 3 bedrooms to rent with shared bathroom and kitchen, or similar. As I've already said - clearly MEPs aren't paid enough.
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Post by gwynthegriff on Feb 1, 2017 20:24:57 GMT
Pages of drivel on whether a candidate has or has not rented a property and whether he has or has not moved into it. What truly pathetic moronic activity by some of you. Just because he is the UKIP candidate. any bloody nonsense will do. get on the tail of the Kipper. Bloody idiots the lot of you. Calm down Carlton old chap. Who was "most local" was a big issue* in the C&N by-election. Nobody invented a local "home address". * I.e. the parties each tried to claim their person had the most local connection. The impact was marginal, but not "bloody nonsense".
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Post by Strontium Dog on Feb 1, 2017 20:37:23 GMT
In fairness, that qualifies as fully decorated if you're a bad Bootle meff.
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Post by spqr on Feb 1, 2017 20:40:42 GMT
Blair's actions after leaving office have also damaged his reputation a lot. In time he'll be seen as a complex figure with good and bad aspects (which would also be the accurate assessment) but we aren't there yet. Early-stage Blairism is more or less accepted now (it's not Corbyn's cup of tea, but most of his supporters would accept it without qualms), but that's largely because it isn't really identified with Blair these days. Whereas it's difficult to see what late-stage Blairism has to offer in the current political climate (and the content wasn't appealing to many even at the time). The problem is basically the name. From an outsider's point of view, Blairism in its final days seemed to be about demonstrating political virtue to the electorate by denigrating and isolating the party membership as often as possible. It's unsurprising that many aren't too keen on reliving these years and 'reviewing' Blair's achievements...
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Post by gwynthegriff on Feb 1, 2017 20:55:40 GMT
From this afternoon: POSTER COUNT: er, none*. One house, at the end of a cul-de-sac, had a leaflet in a window "Labour want to stay in the EU, only UKIP will take us ......" (presumably "out", it was folded over); one end-terrace had a "No to UKIP" sticker in the window. LEAFLET COUNT: Only saw one other leafleter (Lib Dem). Saw 4 copies of the same Labour leaflet (NHS - surprise) - two on the pavement, two in letterboxes. That's it. By-election fever has yet to break out. * I don't count the posters in the Lib Dem office window
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Post by carlton43 on Feb 1, 2017 21:49:41 GMT
Pages of drivel on whether a candidate has or has not rented a property and whether he has or has not moved into it. What truly pathetic moronic activity by some of you. Just because he is the UKIP candidate. any bloody nonsense will do. get on the tail of the Kipper. Bloody idiots the lot of you. Calm down Carlton old chap. Who was "most local" was a big issue* in the C&N by-election. Nobody invented a local "home address". * I.e. the parties each tried to claim their person had the most local connection. The impact was marginal, but not "bloody nonsense". Most of those posts on this theme were pure and applied bloody nonsense and you know it.
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Post by cefin on Feb 1, 2017 21:49:59 GMT
Cheers I'm well aware of how to post a link, for whatever reason it just wouldn't take. Anyway in regards to the EU staff expenses thing, a jilted EU were always going to go after UKIP but of course UKIP do no differently to any of the other British political parties in this regard so presumably they should all be in the dock. As regards Nuttall's residency I've always found the old false moving to an address in the constituency to be insulting and patronising to the local electorate, Everyone knows that Nuttal doesn't live in the area so why pretend that he's moved there?
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Post by andrew111 on Feb 1, 2017 22:35:03 GMT
From this afternoon: POSTER COUNT: er, none*. One house, at the end of a cul-de-sac, had a leaflet in a window "Labour want to stay in the EU, only UKIP will take us ......" (presumably "out", it was folded over); one end-terrace had a "No to UKIP" sticker in the window. LEAFLET COUNT: Only saw one other leafleter (Lib Dem). Saw 4 copies of the same Labour leaflet (NHS - surprise) - two on the pavement, two in letterboxes. That's it. By-election fever has yet to break out. * I don't count the posters in the Lib Dem office window [br You mean "the pub window" don't you?
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Post by andrew111 on Feb 1, 2017 22:35:47 GMT
From this afternoon: POSTER COUNT: er, none*. One house, at the end of a cul-de-sac, had a leaflet in a window "Labour want to stay in the EU, only UKIP will take us ......" (presumably "out", it was folded over); one end-terrace had a "No to UKIP" sticker in the window. LEAFLET COUNT: Only saw one other leafleter (Lib Dem). Saw 4 copies of the same Labour leaflet (NHS - surprise) - two on the pavement, two in letterboxes. That's it. By-election fever has yet to break out. * I don't count the posters in the Lib Dem office window [br You mean "the pub window" don't you? [br 😉
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Post by gwynthegriff on Feb 1, 2017 22:55:54 GMT
From this afternoon: POSTER COUNT: er, none*. One house, at the end of a cul-de-sac, had a leaflet in a window "Labour want to stay in the EU, only UKIP will take us ......" (presumably "out", it was folded over); one end-terrace had a "No to UKIP" sticker in the window. LEAFLET COUNT: Only saw one other leafleter (Lib Dem). Saw 4 copies of the same Labour leaflet (NHS - surprise) - two on the pavement, two in letterboxes. That's it. By-election fever has yet to break out. * I don't count the posters in the Lib Dem office window [br You mean "the pub window" don't you? No.
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Post by greenhert on Feb 1, 2017 23:06:37 GMT
On the subject of other candidates in this by-election, who is Mohammed Akram?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Feb 1, 2017 23:13:42 GMT
On the TV right now. "You're supposed to put your home address"; resulting in me repeatedly shouting louder and louder "No! Correspondence addresss!" That is not the case. A candidate in a Parliamentary election must put their actual home address - the place where they actually live - on the home address form. It is not enough to put in a correspondence address. It is true though that if Nuttall had filled it in with 65 Oxford Street but elected not to make it public, then he would have appeared as a Stoke Central resident on the ballot paper, the home address form would have remained private and no-one would have been able to check it.
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Post by finsobruce on Feb 2, 2017 0:35:11 GMT
One of the problems with politicans these days is that they live longer after they lose office as they tend to be gaining it earlier (DT being an obvious exception to this). having lost empires, they find it difficult to find a role....and stay out of the limelight which they have grown to love. He is the healthiest individual to ever had held the presidency though, so could live for several decades... I didn't say he wasn't healthy....just that he isn't young. and how do you know he is the healthiest ever?
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Post by finsobruce on Feb 2, 2017 0:48:27 GMT
Well I suppose it makes a change from the campaign against UKIP coming from UKIP itself....
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Post by neilm on Feb 2, 2017 1:42:42 GMT
He is the healthiest individual to ever had held the presidency though, so could live for several decades... I didn't say he wasn't healthy....just that he isn't young. and how do you know he is the healthiest ever? His doctor said so in a letter last year, that totally wasn't written for him by Trump's staff.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Feb 2, 2017 2:43:28 GMT
On the TV right now. "You're supposed to put your home address"; resulting in me repeatedly shouting louder and louder "No! Correspondence addresss!" That is not the case. A candidate in a Parliamentary election must put their actual home address - the place where they actually live - on the home address form. It is not enough to put in a correspondence address. It is true though that if Nuttall had filled it in with 65 Oxford Street but elected not to make it public, then he would have appeared as a Stoke Central resident on the ballot paper, the home address form would have remained private and no-one would have been able to check it. Yes, you're right, I was thinking of the agent's form, but I've just got so used to the meeja getting most things about elections and politics wrong. Presumably he'd signed the tenancy before he submitted his forms otherwise he wouldn't have known what the address was. Though, there's nothing on the forms that states the definition of "home" address. When I was in Hong Kong for three years my home address was in Sheffield.
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Post by andrew111 on Feb 2, 2017 9:01:46 GMT
This business of Nuttall and his idiotic pretence to have moved to Stoke does raise serious issues of voting fraud with rolling registration. I would think you could find 100 houses to rent in Stoke Central for a month, at a cost of £30 to £40k. Pack each one with 6 activists from all over the UK and you have 600 votes! Then you all move on to Leigh, Walton etc. Since individuals would rent these houses, not the Party, it would be hard to pin down for expenses... Meanwhile Nuttall will be closely watched if he loses to see how long his desire to live in central Stoke lasts....
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Post by iainbhx on Feb 2, 2017 9:12:01 GMT
On the subject of other candidates in this by-election, who is Mohammed Akram? He appears to be a Community Leader.
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Post by Adam in Stroud on Feb 2, 2017 9:59:05 GMT
On the subject of other candidates in this by-election, who is Mohammed Akram? He appears to be a Community Leader. I've always wondered where they advertise those jobs. and who is on the selection panel.
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Post by iainbhx on Feb 2, 2017 10:28:44 GMT
He appears to be a Community Leader. I've always wondered where they advertise those jobs. and who is on the selection panel. You've not watched Citizen Khan? Seriously, his name comes up with a couple of Islamic charities in the area whose other trustees also appear to include some of his seconders on a very quick look.
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