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Post by middleenglander on Dec 2, 2016 14:41:25 GMT
Angus, Carnoustie & District due to the death of SNP Councillor Helen Oswald who was first elected in 1999 and represented current ward since 2007
2012: Independent Boyd 1,750, SNP 1,029 / 582, Independent Bowles 483, Labour 274, Conservative 271, Liberal Democrat 41 - 2 Independent, 1 SNP elected
2011 by-election: SNP 1,289, Independent Boyd 1,252, Labour 258, Conservative 217, Liberal Democrat 93 - Independent elected
2007: SNP 1,837 / 639, Labour 1,160, Conservative 863, Liberal Democrat 748, Solidarity 62 - 2 SNP, 1 Labour elected
5 candidates:
David Cheap - Independent
Mark McDonald - SNP
Beth Morrison - Liberal Democrat
Derek Shaw - Conservative
Ray Strachen - Labour
The count will take place Tuesday morning.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 15:36:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 19:19:53 GMT
I understand if SNP retain the seat they gain control of the council thanks to last weeks gain... correct?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 2, 2016 19:24:35 GMT
I understand if SNP retain the seat they gain control of the council thanks to last weeks gain... correct? I think so too. |
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Post by Sharon on Dec 2, 2016 23:17:45 GMT
I understand if SNP retain the seat they gain control of the council thanks to last weeks gain... correct? I think so too. Given current numbers are: SNP 14, Inds 8, Tories 4, and 1 apiece for Labour & LDs, that's a definite yes. |
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Post by andrewteale on Dec 5, 2016 22:08:29 GMT
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Dec 6, 2016 11:08:31 GMT
ANGUS Carnoustie and District
David Cheape (Independent) 1,401
Mark McDonald (Scottish National Party) 1,033
Derek Shaw (Conservative) 568
Ray Strachen (Labour) 141
Beth Morrison (Liberal Democrat) 75
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Post by philipchandler on Dec 6, 2016 11:44:35 GMT
As with last week, the excellent reports on the preferences and transfers are on the council website.
| | Stage 1 | Stage 2 | Stage 3 | Stage 4 | | David Cheape | Independent | 1401 | 1420 | 1477 | 1637 | | Mark McDonald | SNP | 1033 | 1043 | 1078 | 1117 | | Beth Morrison | Lib Dem | 75 | |
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| | Derek Shaw | Conservative | 568 | 586 | 606 |
| | Ray Strachan | Labour | 141 | 151 |
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I also note that they have a 'preference profile report' for last week's by election, basically showing exactly what was on each ballot paper. That's quite interesting, and I'm sure will be prepared for this election too. |
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Post by maxque on Dec 6, 2016 11:50:34 GMT
Under normal circumstances these results would most likely produce 2 Ind 1 SNP. It will be interesting to see what happens next year, as the ward has 3 Independent councillors now. |
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Post by timrollpickering on Dec 6, 2016 12:01:14 GMT
Change from 2012: Independent -6.9 Are there any known links between this independent and the existing two, or are they all just benefiting from anti-SNP voting? And did anyone demand more services for Golf Street and Barry Links? |
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Post by The Bishop on Dec 6, 2016 12:17:40 GMT
Under normal circumstances these results would most likely produce 2 Ind 1 SNP. It will be interesting to see what happens next year, as the ward has 3 Independent councillors now. Presumably at least one of those will revert to a political party (most likely the SNP)? |
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Post by Tony Otim on Dec 6, 2016 13:34:08 GMT
It is worth noting that in both Angus by-elections the Labour vote has broken slightly more for the SNP than the Conservatives. The tactical unionist preferencing seeming not to be much of a factor.
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Post by timrollpickering on Dec 6, 2016 13:45:06 GMT
Although in both cases, if I've read the transfer report sheet clearly, Labour went out before independents and broke more for them than anyone else.
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Post by Tony Otim on Dec 6, 2016 14:00:30 GMT
True. Although in last weeks election we know (I've gone through the preferences, but not guaranteeing no mistakes) that the number of voters who first preferenced labour and then gave the SNP a higher preference than the Conservatives (at any preference level) was 34 compared with 24 who first preferenced Labour and gave the Conservatives a higher preference than the SNP.
Considering the number of Labour 1st preferences was 177, that's a very high proportion who didn't give a preference to either!
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Post by timrollpickering on Dec 6, 2016 14:08:11 GMT
You can navigate that site and understand those sheets? I can't spot them.
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Post by Tony Otim on Dec 6, 2016 14:40:29 GMT
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Post by middleenglander on Dec 6, 2016 16:04:56 GMT
Angus, Carnoustie & District - Independent gain from SNP- based on first preferences | Party | 2016 votes | 2016 share | since 2012 | since 2011 B | since 2007 | Independent | 1,401 | 43.5% | from nowhere | from nowhere | from nowhere | SNP | 1,033 | 32.1% | -4.3% | -9.4% | -14.5% | Conservative | 568 | 17.7% | +11.5% | +10.7% | +1.4% | Labour | 141 | 4.4% | -1.8% | -3.9% | -17.5% | Liberal Democrat | 75 | 2.3% | +1.4% | -0.7% | -11.8% | Independent Boyd |
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| -39.5% | -40.3% |
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| -10.9% |
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| -1.2% | Total votes | 3,218 |
| 73% | 104% | 61% |
Swing not particularly meaningful apart from possibly SNP to Independent ~6¼% since 2011 by-election Council now 14 SNP, 9 Independent, 4 Conservative, 1 Labour, 1 Liberal Democrat
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