Adrian
Co-operative Party
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Post by Adrian on Sept 25, 2016 0:08:08 GMT
Anyone booked to speak at any of the hearings yet? I've put my name down for Birmingham and Leamington, and I might speak at Derby and Northampton too. The hearings which aren't the lead hearings (i.e. the first one in each region, when the political parties present their proposals for the region) aren't so interesting though, so it depends how busy I am.
At the zombie review I went up to Chester but there isn't the same problems with the Cheshire seats this time. Manchester would be interesting but it's a long trip.
As usual there will be some hearings which hardly anyone will be at - really they should advertise the secondary hearings as one-day events and add the second day if it gets booked up.
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Khunanup
Lib Dem
Portsmouth Liberal Democrats
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Post by Khunanup on Sept 25, 2016 2:12:33 GMT
Yes, I'm booked into the Portsmouth hearing.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 25, 2016 10:12:27 GMT
I'm booked in for a slot at the hearing at Luton. Given what Adrian has said about the 'lead hearing' (which I hadn't considered) I might see if I can book onto the Chelmsford one. The date would suit me better as it happens though of course it would be further to travel
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Post by islington on Sept 25, 2016 10:40:56 GMT
If you don't want a speaking slot, but simply want to see what is proposed by others (especially the political parties), can you just turn up or do you still have to book?
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Adrian
Co-operative Party
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Post by Adrian on Sept 25, 2016 14:29:29 GMT
If you don't want to speak you can just turn up.
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 25, 2016 17:32:22 GMT
The date would suit me better as it happens though of course it be further to travel Seems like being in the Eastern region is starting to affect the way i speak. Perhaps I'd be better off going to the Norwich one!
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Post by greatkingrat on Sept 25, 2016 17:42:42 GMT
Anyone booked to speak at any of the hearings yet? I've put my name down for Birmingham and Leamington, and I might speak at Derby and Northampton too. The hearings which aren't the lead hearings (i.e. the first one in each region, when the political parties present their proposals for the region) aren't so interesting though, so it depends how busy I am. At the zombie review I went up to Chester but there isn't the same problems with the Cheshire seats this time. Manchester would be interesting but it's a long trip. As usual there will be some hearings which hardly anyone will be at - really they should advertise the secondary hearings as one-day events and add the second day if it gets booked up. Why would you want to speak at more than one hearing per region?
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Adrian
Co-operative Party
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Post by Adrian on Sept 25, 2016 18:19:00 GMT
Anyone booked to speak at any of the hearings yet? I've put my name down for Birmingham and Leamington, and I might speak at Derby and Northampton too. The hearings which aren't the lead hearings (i.e. the first one in each region, when the political parties present their proposals for the region) aren't so interesting though, so it depends how busy I am. At the zombie review I went up to Chester but there isn't the same problems with the Cheshire seats this time. Manchester would be interesting but it's a long trip. As usual there will be some hearings which hardly anyone will be at - really they should advertise the secondary hearings as one-day events and add the second day if it gets booked up. Why would you want to speak at more than one hearing per region? Well, for example in the case of Leamington, some of the local media, politicians and members of the public won't have been at the Birmingham hearing, and I'm as interested in communicating with those people as I am with the Commission.
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Post by finsobruce on Sept 25, 2016 18:37:23 GMT
The date would suit me better as it happens though of course it be further to travel Seems like being in the Eastern region is starting to affect the way i speak. Perhaps I'd be better off going to the Norwich one! 'Hev Yew Gotta Loight Boy?
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peterl
Green
Monarchic Technocratic Localist
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Post by peterl on Sept 25, 2016 19:06:20 GMT
Out of interest, Do people just go to speak on their own behalf or do people go on behalf of their party? Do councillors sometimes get sent to represent their council's views?
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Post by Pete Whitehead on Sept 25, 2016 19:13:37 GMT
All of the above.
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peterl
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Post by peterl on Sept 25, 2016 19:21:05 GMT
Right, in that case I may ask the town council I sit on if they would like me to attend the hearing to represent the council's views. We will be discussing the review at the next meeting.
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Harry Hayfield
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Oct 3, 2016 12:39:52 GMT
Just had my confirmation that I have been accepted to speak in Carmarthen next Wednesday, and will be putting forward proposals for five constituencies to replace the current seven in Powys and Dyfed. I have also asked them if I may make social media posts about them (and other contributions) and will let you know what they come back with.
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Post by lennon on Oct 3, 2016 12:54:42 GMT
Yes, I'm booked into the Portsmouth hearing. Interestingly, having just checked the dates, I am probably in Portsmouth on the 27th. (It's half term and I'm doing the Gt Sth Run on the Sunday). Won't look to speak but might well pop in briefly just to see how they work - do you have a time for when you are speaking or is it pretty random?
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Harry Hayfield
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Post by Harry Hayfield on Oct 4, 2016 14:01:44 GMT
People heading to these hearing, you might want to take your computers with you. I have just had a chat with the person who is organising the Carmarthen meeting next week and he told me that whilst my preserved Powys / Dyfed submission fitted the rules, the Commissioner would have ruled it out of order as it was not a whole Wales submission. I have explained that I can indeed create an all Wales submission but would like to present these suggestions as an initial point and then listen to the comments and points raised by the other people making submissions and then present a full Wales submission in writing before the end of the consultation. In other words, they are looking for WHOLE submissions, not bits
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Crimson King
Lib Dem
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Post by Crimson King on Oct 4, 2016 14:17:49 GMT
can they do that? What if you, say, want to swap two wards between constitueis
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Post by lennon on Oct 4, 2016 14:26:41 GMT
can they do that? What if you, say, want to swap two wards between constitueis Presumably you could just add "and all other constituencies in the region entirely unchanged from the BCE's most excellent proposal" The issue should be more those that want to submit proposals which impact elsewhere without describing the impact / dealing with it. Harry's suggestion presumably means keeping the borders of Dyfedd and Powys intact - but I don't quite see what he's going to do with North Wales in such a scenario, and presumably neither could the Commissioners.
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Crimson King
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Post by Crimson King on Oct 4, 2016 14:54:45 GMT
can they do that? What if you, say, want to swap two wards between constitueis Presumably you could just add "and all other constituencies in the region entirely unchanged from the BCE's most excellent proposal" The issue should be more those that want to submit proposals which impact elsewhere without describing the impact / dealing with it. Harry's suggestion presumably means keeping the borders of Dyfedd and Powys intact - but I don't quite see what he's going to do with North Wales in such a scenario, and presumably neither could the Commissioners. True. I suppose it's the difference between ruling something out of order, and accepting it but then saying 'we don't plan to do this because of unacceptable consequences elsewhere' I guess the former saves everyones time, even if it seems a little brusque
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Adrian
Co-operative Party
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Post by Adrian on Oct 4, 2016 17:10:21 GMT
whilst my preserved Powys / Dyfed submission fitted the rules, the Commissioner would have ruled it out of order as it was not a whole Wales submission. I'm sorry, but that's BS.
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YL
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Post by YL on Oct 4, 2016 17:24:40 GMT
whilst my preserved Powys / Dyfed submission fitted the rules, the Commissioner would have ruled it out of order as it was not a whole Wales submission. I'm sorry, but that's BS. I can't imagine "out of order" is right, but I suspect the point that the Commission won't take a Dyfed/Powys counterproposal very seriously if it doesn't address the knock-on effects in the rest of Wales is right. I'm certainly assuming that if I'm going to submit a counter-proposal for the Sheffield area I need to include something about the rest of Yorkshire, though I'd rather concentrate on the areas I know best.
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