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Post by timrollpickering on May 27, 2019 9:30:35 GMT
In the Conservatives it's often delegated down to a constituency officer. I've seen posts in the past that suggested Labour did the same, though they may have changed after some communication cock-ups. Both parties have had problems with more than one officer being delegated the power in an area and two different authorised candidates being nominated, especially when a ward or division is split between constituencies.
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Post by timmullen1 on May 27, 2019 9:46:38 GMT
In the Conservatives it's often delegated down to a constituency officer. I've seen posts in the past that suggested Labour did the same, though they may have changed after some communication cock-ups. Both parties have had problems with more than one officer being delegated the power in an area and two different authorised candidates being nominated, especially when a ward or division is split between constituencies. Yes, it originally was the CLP Secretary and/or Agent. I think, from fuzzy memory, it was about eight years ago it was Regionalised here in Stoke, but we’ve been (are?) such a basket case we may not have been trusted not to stuff it up.
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Post by offshore on May 27, 2019 9:52:42 GMT
Thank you for your quick responses, everyone! So, if I understand this correctly, at a General Election, in my constituency, the Conservative, Green and Lib dem canddiates would be nominated by the authorised person from Tunbridge Wells Conservatives (Greens, LibDems), and the Labour candidate would be nominated by the South East Regional Director. And presumably the Brexit Party candidate would be nominated by Nigel Farage.
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Post by timrollpickering on May 27, 2019 10:17:12 GMT
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Post by timmullen1 on May 27, 2019 10:43:53 GMT
Thank you for your quick responses, everyone! So, if I understand this correctly, at a General Election, in my constituency, the Conservative, Green and Lib dem canddiates would be nominated by the authorised person from Tunbridge Wells Conservatives (Greens, LibDems), and the Labour candidate would be nominated by the South East Regional Director. And presumably the Brexit Party candidate would be nominated by Nigel Farage. Not nominated as such, that’s still done by getting the requisite number of electors to sign the traditional nomination form, but in order to use a Party name and logo the candidate has to submit signed authorisation on behalf of the Party; and that applies to many localist groups running as a ticket (e.g. the City Independents in Stoke).
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Post by jamie on May 27, 2019 11:33:41 GMT
Another turnout related request. Does anybody have the British Election Study turnout data by age group for the last few elections? I found a table at researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-8060%23fullreport but a quick Google shows the BES claim that 18-24 year old turnout was only around 45% in 2017 so the data seems to be from a different source. I am specifically looking for 18-24 year old turnout vs the population as a whole. Reupping this. Does anybody have any age related turnout figures for the last few general elections? I keep looking and can’t find anything that’s definitely right.
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Post by offshore on May 27, 2019 12:11:28 GMT
It was a joke
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Post by offshore on May 27, 2019 12:13:14 GMT
Thank you for your quick responses, everyone! So, if I understand this correctly, at a General Election, in my constituency, the Conservative, Green and Lib dem canddiates would be nominated by the authorised person from Tunbridge Wells Conservatives (Greens, LibDems), and the Labour candidate would be nominated by the South East Regional Director. And presumably the Brexit Party candidate would be nominated by Nigel Farage. Not nominated as such, that’s still done by getting the requisite number of electors to sign the traditional nomination form, but in order to use a Party name and logo the candidate has to submit signed authorisation on behalf of the Party; and that applies to many localist groups running as a ticket (e.g. the City Independents in Stoke). Yes, it's ambiguous terminology. I know you still need nominators, but the legal positron is, I think, called a nominating officer - so that's nomination too. Should be called certification, or authorisation, or something.
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Post by timmullen1 on May 27, 2019 12:21:41 GMT
Not nominated as such, that’s still done by getting the requisite number of electors to sign the traditional nomination form, but in order to use a Party name and logo the candidate has to submit signed authorisation on behalf of the Party; and that applies to many localist groups running as a ticket (e.g. the City Independents in Stoke). Yes, it's ambiguous terminology. I know you still need nominators, but the legal positron is, I think, called a nominating officer - so that's nomination too. Should be called certification, or authorisation, or something. As this this explanation from the Electoral Commission says it’s actually a bit of both: A candidate supported by a certificate of authorisation signed by the Nominating Officer of a political party (or someone on their behalf) may use the party name or a description allowed by that certificate and registered with the Electoral Commission.
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Post by syorkssocialist on May 27, 2019 15:57:50 GMT
Does anyone have a blank map of council areas across the whole UK? The only one I can find is somewhat outdated and doesn't include Orkney or Shetland.
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Post by john07 on May 28, 2019 8:11:11 GMT
It was a joke A Nigel Farage joke is no laughing matter.
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Post by timrollpickering on May 29, 2019 12:06:02 GMT
Which EU law requires this system, and is this requirement operated in all EU member states or is it one of those things that countries can opt into at their leisure but can't subsequently back out of? I saw this link on another discussion which has information on all EU member states: europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/elections-abroad/european-elections/index_en.htmNearly all reference a declaration system. Some incorporate it into registration and some seem to have a specific registration for the European Parliament (at least for EU citizens). I have seen people on social media making claims that this process isn't required in countries that have it, so either they didn't notice doing it (maybe the declaration lasts more than one election) or perhaps it was done within the registration form.
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Post by redvers on Jun 21, 2019 12:48:20 GMT
So the LGBC is planning a review of the Bracknell Forest ward boundaries. Some local members have expressed an eagerness that certain bits of one ward be moved into another, for reasons long to explain. The trouble is that one ward is in the Windsor constituency and the other is in the Bracknell one. Would the LGBC contenance adjusting a ward boundary so that one part of the ward is in one constiuency and the other not, or does that simply not happen?
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Jun 21, 2019 13:07:17 GMT
Ward boundary reviews and constituency boundary reviews are completely separate processes. When the ward boundary changes, the constituency boundary stays in the same place it used to be.
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Post by redvers on Jun 21, 2019 13:16:09 GMT
So I appreciate they're separate, but what I'm asking is would the LGBC be prepared to entertain a scenario where a ward boundary is adjusted so that one part of the ward ends up in X constituency and another in Y? Right now, the ward is entirely in one constituency alone.
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Post by John Chanin on Jun 21, 2019 13:30:11 GMT
So I appreciate they're separate, but what I'm asking is would the LGBC be prepared to entertain a scenario where a ward boundary is adjusted so that one part of the ward ends up in X constituency and another in Y? Right now, the ward is entirely in one constituency alone. Yes. This happens all the time.
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Post by redvers on Jun 21, 2019 13:39:48 GMT
So I appreciate they're separate, but what I'm asking is would the LGBC be prepared to entertain a scenario where a ward boundary is adjusted so that one part of the ward ends up in X constituency and another in Y? Right now, the ward is entirely in one constituency alone. Yes. This happens all the time. Ta, appreciated.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jun 21, 2019 16:53:26 GMT
Ward boundaries are infinitely flexible, you can redraw house by house as there are no building blocks below them.
Parliamentary reviews are almost infinitely inflexible, in the main they won't countanance anything other than using whole wards as building blocks, and even when you manage to lever them away from this they cling to using pre-existing polling districts to split a ward. It takes a lot of effort to get the Parliamentary reviewers to make a logical split of a ward.
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Post by J.G.Harston on Jun 21, 2019 17:02:37 GMT
Ward boundary reviews and constituency boundary reviews are completely separate processes. When the ward boundary changes, the constituency boundary stays in the same place it used to be. But, releated to this...
We are due to have a parish review across the borough, and we're going to use the opportunity to tidy up our town council numbers and warding. Nothing contentious.
However, across the borough there are loads of defaced boundaries (boundaries originally drawn along some feature that is no longer there, eg a demolished wall or a river that has moved, or development has spread over the line). Where these are with a borough ward they are similar in status to a polling district boundary, so can be moved by the borough council. However, a handful also form borough ward boundaries. At the borough review the LGBC were adamant that they had no powers to adjust parish boundaries, so the fixes couldn't be done at the same time as the borough review, and the borough review was forced to use the defaced boundaries.
Every now and then I see a post in the Boundaries subforum mentioning an order to move a ward boundary to take account of adjusted parishes. How is this done? Is this something the borough has power to do, and asks somebody "upstairs" to do the adjustment? How does the borough do: "redraw parish boundary between Parish X and Parish Y between point A and point B to follow Centre Of Road, and adjust ward boundary beween borough ward L and M to match" ?
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Post by carlton43 on Jun 29, 2019 14:06:40 GMT
I could not trace this using the quite awful 'index search' by inserting 'Ask the Forum' in the appropriate box when in the Off Topic general section. Do others have trouble finding threads? I often find it brings up just about anything other than the thread I want.
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