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Post by BossMan on May 8, 2017 18:36:46 GMT
It is amazing what you think about when on tour in India. I am non-aligned because, although basically a staunch Conservative, I was decidedly not a Cameroon, Osbornite etc, and getting out of Europe is/was crucial. UKIP therefore was a home for my vote for a bit. Now though there is only one sensible vote for me. Do I therefore "come clean" on the forum? In all honesty, I think I ought to make a reality of the blindingly obvious. Please, therefore, Mr iainbhxadmin turn me blue. Thank you. Paging BossManDone.
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Post by Vibe on May 8, 2017 20:07:02 GMT
It is amazing what you think about when on tour in India. I am non-aligned because, although basically a staunch Conservative, I was decidedly not a Cameroon, Osbornite etc, and getting out of Europe is/was crucial. UKIP therefore was a home for my vote for a bit. Now though there is only one sensible vote for me. Do I therefore "come clean" on the forum? In all honesty, I think I ought to make a reality of the blindingly obvious. Please, therefore, Mr iainbhxadmin turn me blue. Thank you. Welcome aboard. Suffolk is proud. What is the difference from Tory and Conservative?
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Post by mrpastelito on May 8, 2017 20:21:30 GMT
Welcome aboard. Suffolk is proud. What is the difference from Tory and Conservative? Tories on here are the Over-90s wing of the Conservatives.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 20:22:28 GMT
Welcome aboard. Suffolk is proud. What is the difference from Tory and Conservative? Nothing. It's merely how we prefer to be labelled. I'm a Conservative & Unionist. One of us is a Scottish Whig. Then you have Labour or Labour & Co-operative, or just plain Co-operative.
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Post by carlton43 on May 8, 2017 21:27:06 GMT
Welcome aboard. Suffolk is proud. What is the difference from Tory and Conservative? A vanity schtick. An historic reference. A definitive positional stance 'High Tory' Concerned originally with a certain religiosity, a certain ultra-monarchism. A class stance and standpoint. A support for the landed interest over the mercantile interest. Corn Laws supporter. More Naval than Military. Sound money, anti-inflation and high interest. Low tax faction. Imperialist. Anti-Europe. Anti-Commonwealth in Civil War. Anti Reform Act. Anti-globalization. Anti-multi-national.
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Post by Tangent on May 9, 2017 15:53:14 GMT
Hi iainbhxadmin - could you switch me back to Non-Aligned? While I will support the LDs in present circumstances, and wish them well for the moment, I sadly have to conclude that I am simply not one of them.
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Post by middyman on May 9, 2017 16:01:17 GMT
Hi iainbhxadmin - could you switch me back to Non-Aligned? While I will support the LDs in present circumstances, and wish them well for the moment, I sadly have to conclude that I am simply not one of them. Might I ask what it is that has led you to the conclusion that you are not one of the party you will continue to support?
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Post by Tangent on May 9, 2017 17:37:51 GMT
Hi iainbhxadmin - could you switch me back to Non-Aligned? While I will support the LDs in present circumstances, and wish them well for the moment, I sadly have to conclude that I am simply not one of them. Might I ask what it is that has led you to the conclusion that you are not one of the party you will continue to support? All good Liberal Democrats, I think, must share one thing: they must have a stronger belief in progressive values, and the benefits that change and social renewal, than I do. In practice, I don't differ very much from a sensible moderate progressive on policy - but my reasons for doing so are different. Continuity is what I fundamentally want to see, but I also want this to be preserved by continuous adaptation to change. The difference may abstruse to some, but it is there. I want LD success in the short-term, but only as a means to an end, not an end in itself.
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Post by Jack on May 9, 2017 18:01:08 GMT
Hi iainbhxadmin - could you switch me back to Non-Aligned? While I will support the LDs in present circumstances, and wish them well for the moment, I sadly have to conclude that I am simply not one of them. You can go back to Non-Aligned by leaving the Lib Dem group in your profile.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2017 18:04:18 GMT
Hi iainbhxadmin - could you switch me back to Non-Aligned? While I will support the LDs in present circumstances, and wish them well for the moment, I sadly have to conclude that I am simply not one of them. You can go back to Non-Aligned by leaving the Lib Dem group in your profile. Although that makes you a default dark blue non aligned. Only Iain can make you a grey non aligned.
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Post by Tangent on May 9, 2017 18:05:27 GMT
Hi iainbhxadmin - could you switch me back to Non-Aligned? While I will support the LDs in present circumstances, and wish them well for the moment, I sadly have to conclude that I am simply not one of them. You can go back to Non-Aligned by leaving the Lib Dem group in your profile. Danke! It's rather like returning to the office after a long holiday and then finding that your colleagues and processes have changed...
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Post by John Chanin on May 9, 2017 19:23:57 GMT
You can go back to Non-Aligned by leaving the Lib Dem group in your profile. Although that makes you a default dark blue non aligned. Only Iain can make you a grey non aligned. You can only be properly non-aligned if you are gray. Otherwise you are just a poser of no interest.
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Post by middyman on May 10, 2017 7:27:16 GMT
Might I ask what it is that has led you to the conclusion that you are not one of the party you will continue to support? All good Liberal Democrats, I think, must share one thing: they must have a stronger belief in progressive values, and the benefits that change and social renewal, than I do. In practice, I don't differ very much from a sensible moderate progressive on policy - but my reasons for doing so are different. Continuity is what I fundamentally want to see, but I also want this to be preserved by continuous adaptation to change. The difference may abstruse to some, but it is there. I want LD success in the short-term, but only as a means to an end, not an end in itself. Thank you for your reply
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Post by Adam in Stroud on May 10, 2017 8:41:45 GMT
Might I ask what it is that has led you to the conclusion that you are not one of the party you will continue to support? All good Liberal Democrats, I think, must share one thing: they must have a stronger belief in progressive values, and the benefits that change and social renewal, than I do. In practice, I don't differ very much from a sensible moderate progressive on policy - but my reasons for doing so are different. Continuity is what I fundamentally want to see, but I also want this to be preserved by continuous adaptation to change. The difference may abstruse to some, but it is there. I want LD success in the short-term, but only as a means to an end, not an end in itself. Hmm. Not so far away from my own position. I suppose it is a question of degree.
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Post by neilm on May 10, 2017 10:32:58 GMT
'Continuity but Continuous Change!' sounds like a slogan encouraging tractor production.
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Post by Antiochian on May 10, 2017 15:39:30 GMT
Might I ask what it is that has led you to the conclusion that you are not one of the party you will continue to support? All good Liberal Democrats, I think, must share one thing: they must have a stronger belief in progressive values, and the benefits that change and social renewal, than I do. In practice, I don't differ very much from a sensible moderate progressive on policy - but my reasons for doing so are different. Continuity is what I fundamentally want to see, but I also want this to be preserved by continuous adaptation to change. The difference may abstruse to some, but it is there. I want LD success in the short-term, but only as a means to an end, not an end in itself. You could switch to the Liberal Party!
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Post by curiousliberal on May 12, 2017 21:43:03 GMT
On request, I have just started an SDLP group, so we may see defections to that. Shouldn't this work similar to the 'Tory' group due to the party's alliance with Labour? (In terms of technically sharing a group subforum with a larger party, that is.) Of course, the same would go for the LDs/APNI in such a scenario (it's already the case for the Greens, I presume).
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Post by greenchristian on May 13, 2017 20:30:46 GMT
On request, I have just started an SDLP group, so we may see defections to that. Shouldn't this work similar to the 'Tory' group due to the party's alliance with Labour? (In terms of technically sharing a group subforum with a larger party, that is.) Of course, the same would go for the LDs/APNI in such a scenario (it's already the case for the Greens, I presume). Right now, there's just the one Green group on the forum. When asked during Swanarcadian's time as admin nobody particularly wanted to be listed as specifically GPEW or SGP (and we have no GPNI members anyway). If there had been, then they would have been sharing our party forum, similar to the way the Tory group has access to the Conservative forum and the Labour Co-Operative group has access to the Labour one.
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Post by froome on May 13, 2017 20:44:52 GMT
Shouldn't this work similar to the 'Tory' group due to the party's alliance with Labour? (In terms of technically sharing a group subforum with a larger party, that is.) Of course, the same would go for the LDs/APNI in such a scenario (it's already the case for the Greens, I presume). Right now, there's just the one Green group on the forum. When asked during Swanarcadian's time as admin nobody particularly wanted to be listed as specifically GPEW or SGP ( and we have no GPNI members anyway). If there had been, then they would have been sharing our party forum, similar to the way the Tory group has access to the Conservative forum and the Labour Co-Operative group has access to the Labour one. Actually I assume gaygael is a GPNI member.
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Post by greenchristian on May 13, 2017 20:48:56 GMT
Right now, there's just the one Green group on the forum. When asked during Swanarcadian's time as admin nobody particularly wanted to be listed as specifically GPEW or SGP ( and we have no GPNI members anyway). If there had been, then they would have been sharing our party forum, similar to the way the Tory group has access to the Conservative forum and the Labour Co-Operative group has access to the Labour one. Actually I assume gaygael is a GPNI member. I stand corrected. I guess that just shows how often I read the NI Constituency threads.
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