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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 10:11:46 GMT
"Worth a look" - really? ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Well if only for "I am forming a new party called the United World Government Party...."
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Post by neilm on Oct 25, 2014 10:36:59 GMT
Loon.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 11:40:07 GMT
Aye. Galloway missed a trick there didn't he?
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 25, 2014 13:02:29 GMT
An interview with the Conservative candidate:
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Post by independentukip on Oct 25, 2014 14:48:35 GMT
If she was the best of the two how bad was the other one?
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Post by Devonian on Oct 25, 2014 17:39:33 GMT
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Post by troubadour on Oct 25, 2014 20:38:16 GMT
It always used to be thought that a By Election candidate needed to be more politically accomplished than the general run of candidates. Then interest in By Elections declined and the sensitivity about not having a below par candidate appeared to decline too. This R and S election is more like the excitable battles of the 1980s and the candidates could be vulnerable. First impressions of the Tory candidate are that she is going to need a lot of protection and a lot of quick coaching. This is a long by election campaign and she doesn't appear to be a strong candidate.
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Post by Richard Allen on Oct 25, 2014 20:40:57 GMT
One could almost think that the Conservative Party are actually trying to lose both this by election and the next general election.
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Post by Andrew_S on Oct 25, 2014 20:51:04 GMT
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Post by psephos on Oct 25, 2014 20:59:04 GMT
And? (putting apart it's from the so very unbiased 'Breitbart' website?) It was not an all-women shortlist, but the list was whittled down to two before going out to an all-postal primary. The last two happened to both be women. The last paragraph is bullshit. I presume if the Tory Party had instead had a closed members-only selection meeting in a church hall Kippers would have no complaints whatsoever?
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Post by psephos on Oct 25, 2014 21:03:34 GMT
One could almost think that the Conservative Party are actually trying to lose both this by election and the next general election. You want Miliband PM, you have him mate. Tories like me will emigrate, 'recent' Labour voters will 'go forth and multiply', and leave you to your dreams of absolutist purism in politics. And yes I ken well ye're not a member of UKIP any more, but still your call. No one in politics is perfect, not David Cameron, but also not as you know (but most of your ex-colleagues haven't fathomed) the Ever-Pint-Supping Dear Leader & crew either. But Miliband's chance of living up to perfect? Slim.
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Post by No Offence Alan on Oct 25, 2014 21:06:01 GMT
It always used to be thought that a By Election candidate needed to be more politically accomplished than the general run of candidates. Then interest in By Elections declined and the sensitivity about not having a below par candidate appeared to decline too. This R and S election is more like the excitable battles of the 1980s and the candidates could be vulnerable. First impressions of the Tory candidate are that she is going to need a lot of protection and a lot of quick coaching. This is a long by election campaign and she doesn't appear to be a strong candidate. Presumably, since we are relatively close to the GE, all the main parties will have already selected their "best" candidates in their target seats by now, and just have to make do when a by-election comes along?
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Post by Richard Allen on Oct 25, 2014 21:59:45 GMT
One could almost think that the Conservative Party are actually trying to lose both this by election and the next general election. You want Miliband PM, you have him mate. Tories like me will emigrate, 'recent' Labour voters will 'go forth and multiply', and leave you to your dreams of absolutist purism in politics. No, I don't want Miliband as PM but the Cameron led Conservative Party offers so little to me that I can't bring myself to care that much. I have never sought "absolute purism" and on leaving UKIP I did seriously reconsider rejoining the Conservative Party but whenever I even started to inch towards doing so they did something that pushed me away. The final straw was this summer's reshuffle. To replace Owen Paterson and Michael Gove with Elizabeth Truss and Nicky Morgan confirmed what I had always thought about David Cameron; he is a shallow PR man and unfit to be PM. The "vote for us to stop Ed" line has some pull but by itself it isn't enough. The Cameron led Conservative Party has not only repeatedly insulted large swathes of its core support but it has revelled in doing so. At the next election it will pay the price. However you may rest assured that I will do my little bit to prevent Ed being PM. I will vote for John Hemming in order to try and keep Birmingham Yardley out of the Labour Party's hands.
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Post by Devonian on Oct 25, 2014 23:45:29 GMT
And? (putting apart it's from the so very unbiased 'Breitbart' website?) It was not an all-women shortlist, but the list was whittled down to two before going out to an all-postal primary. The last two happened to both be women. The last paragraph is bullshit. I presume if the Tory Party had instead had a closed members-only selection meeting in a church hall Kippers would have no complaints whatsoever? Firstly every news site has is own biases, Breitbart isn't neutral but neither is anyone else. Secondly how do you know that the final 'shortlist' was one that just happened to be two women, rather than that being a deliberate policy? You might be right (the Breitbart story is based only on a single source) but what is your source of information that makes you certain you are right? Finally I've never heard UKIP complain once about the Tory party selecting people in closed meetings. What people are complaining about is not the principle of holding a primary. What people are complaining about is a farcical 'primary' with a veryshortlist of only two, not one single primary hustings and with no proper reporting of the results which is being used as a very transparent dodge of campaign spending limit laws.
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Post by timokane on Oct 26, 2014 10:13:55 GMT
The Britain First candidate giving us a taste of her debating skills.
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Post by neilm on Oct 26, 2014 10:33:12 GMT
Google tells me that the mega mosque is to be to built in Gillingham. No one else seems to use the term 'mega mosque.' Why does she repeatedly say that the people of Rochester voted against it? Was there a local poll which then got ignored by the council?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 12:43:58 GMT
Mike Barker has posted this on UKPolling.
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Post by Tony Otim on Oct 26, 2014 13:55:14 GMT
Statement of Persons Nominated Mike BARKER (Independent) Christoper JustQCharley CHALIS (Independent) Hairy Knorm DAVIDSON (OMRLP) Jayda Fransen (Britain First) [Will appear on the ballot as "Vote British!" Stephen GOLDSBROUGH (Independent) Clive GREGORY (Green) [Will appear on the ballot as "Green Party - Say No To Racism"] Geoff JUBY (Liberal Democrat) Naushabah Parveen KHAN (Labour Party) Nick LONG (People Before Profit) Dave OSBORN (Patriotic Socialist Party) Mark RECKLESS (UK Independence Party (UKIP)) Charlotte ROSE (Independent) Kelly TOLHURST (The Conservative Party Candidate) I take it Charlotte Rose is the sex worker who stood in Clacton?
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Post by Devonian on Oct 26, 2014 14:07:52 GMT
I take it Charlotte Rose is the sex worker who stood in Clacton? On both SOPNs the address is given as 'address in the Poplar and Limehouse constituency' so I guess it would be the same. According to the OMPRL's write up of the Clacton campaign TV company is making a documentary about her www.loonyparty.com/4607/4328/the-clacton-count/
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Post by Arthur Figgis on Oct 26, 2014 14:42:55 GMT
One way of paying the deposit- getting blokes to pay for a deposit.
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