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Post by peterw on Aug 5, 2023 18:03:09 GMT
A query. Given UCRA elected three councillors in 2022 and allowing that one has died and so caused the by-election, why does UCRA only have one councillor at present? Has one transferred their allegiance to another group?
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Post by John Chanin on Aug 5, 2023 18:10:08 GMT
A query. Given UCRA elected three councillors in 2022 and allowing that one has died and so caused the by-election, why does UCRA only have one councillor at present? Has one transferred their allegiance to another group? The political disputes between the various residents' associations in Havering are completely inpenetrable to outsiders. |
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Post by maxque on Aug 5, 2023 18:50:37 GMT
A query. Given UCRA elected three councillors in 2022 and allowing that one has died and so caused the by-election, why does UCRA only have one councillor at present? Has one transferred their allegiance to another group? UCRA elected 6 councillors, 3 in Cranham and 3 in Upminster. They all sit in the Havering Resident Association group (including the Deputy Leader in Cranham and 2 Cabinet members in Upminster) but one of the Cranham councillors who founded that 1 member "group", left the HRA right after the election, being opposed to the coalition deal with Labour, but is still a member of the association. www.romfordrecorder.co.uk/news/20708604.councillor-leaves-hra-group-council-labour-agreement/ |
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Post by phil156 on Aug 7, 2023 16:15:44 GMT
Wychavon counts on Friday the other two are Thursday night
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 9, 2023 10:18:45 GMT
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Post by oldhamexile on Aug 9, 2023 14:18:38 GMT
A query. Given UCRA elected three councillors in 2022 and allowing that one has died and so caused the by-election, why does UCRA only have one councillor at present? Has one transferred their allegiance to another group? UCRA elected 6 councillors, 3 in Cranham and 3 in Upminster. They all sit in the Havering Resident Association group (including the Deputy Leader in Cranham and 2 Cabinet members in Upminster) but one of the Cranham councillors who founded that 1 member "group", left the HRA right after the election, being opposed to the coalition deal with Labour, but is still a member of the association. www.romfordrecorder.co.uk/news/20708604.councillor-leaves-hra-group-council-labour-agreement/One irony in all this is that the mainstream faction now in coalition with Labour includes Graham Williamson, former deputy chairman of the National Front. Williamson remains nominating officer of the National Liberal Party, which was formed by fellow members of the NF faction that had previously mutated into 'Third Way'. The NLP no longer appears to be racial nationalist, and indeed its leader is a Sikh. David Durant, the independent candidate in this by-election, is a longstanding ally of Williamson's and a fellow member of the National Liberal Party. Like Williamson, Durant became part of the so-called 'political soldier' or 'cadre' faction of the NF when it split in 1986. Other members of that faction included future BNP leader Nick Griffin, and they were disliked by other nationalist factions partly because of their adulation of Colonel Gadaffi. Within a couple of years, in true 'Life of Brian' style, this faction split again with Williamson and Durant following the group led by Patrick Harrington who created first Third Way, then the NLP, with a diversion to found an 'independent trade union' called Solidarity. Harrington eventually ended up back with Griffin, before a further split almost a decade ago. All this must be very confusing for Havering's voters. Do they back the ex-NF man who favours coalition with Labour, or the folks with no NF connections who are opposed to Labour?  |
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Post by greenman on Aug 9, 2023 17:54:58 GMT
Is it just me or am I seeing Labour, Conservative, Liberal Democrat and Green now running in nearly every local by-election as the General UK election approaches?
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Post by Chris from Brum on Aug 9, 2023 18:06:02 GMT
Is it just me or am I seeing Labour, Conservative, Liberal Democrat and Green now running in nearly every local by-election as the General UK election approaches? Labour aren't running in Castle Cary this week. |
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Post by batman on Aug 9, 2023 18:24:50 GMT
nor several by-elections in recent weeks. LD absences have been fairly rare but not non-existent.
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Post by Chris from Brum on Aug 9, 2023 18:52:37 GMT
Featured in Private Eye today. Distinct lack of due diligence in candidate selection there. |
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Post by Davıd Boothroyd on Aug 9, 2023 22:32:45 GMT
Featured in Private Eye today. Distinct lack of due diligence in candidate selection there. Ed Green was also Deputy Chairman (Political) of Upminster Conservative Association - if I remember right, that means he was the official in charge of candidate selection. |
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Post by Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells on Aug 10, 2023 3:10:50 GMT
Featured in Private Eye today. Distinct lack of due diligence in candidate selection there. I personally don't get why politicians find it so hard to make their personal social media pages private, to be frank. So many of them seem to inadvertently leave themselves to blackmail. |
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Post by John Chanin on Aug 10, 2023 14:00:18 GMT
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Post by sirbenjamin on Aug 10, 2023 14:52:06 GMT
Featured in Private Eye today. Distinct lack of due diligence in candidate selection there. I personally don't get why politicians find it so hard to make their personal social media pages private, to be frank. So many of them seem to inadvertently leave themselves to blackmail.
Or - radical thought - we could just all grow the fuck up and stop censuring/cancelling/ostracising everyone who types the 'wrong' letters in a textbox, or clicks a 'bad' like button. etc.
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Post by Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells on Aug 10, 2023 15:27:15 GMT
I personally don't get why politicians find it so hard to make their personal social media pages private, to be frank. So many of them seem to inadvertently leave themselves to blackmail.
Or - radical thought - we could just all grow the fuck up and stop censuring/cancelling/ostracising everyone who types the 'wrong' letters in a textbox, or clicks a 'bad' like button. etc.
I agree that someone liking a post is a little ridiculous, but if someone directly posts something that shows they are or would make a bad politician, why shouldn't we be entitled to judge them on that basis? |
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Post by minionofmidas on Aug 10, 2023 17:11:18 GMT
Featured in Private Eye today. Distinct lack of due diligence in candidate selection there. Ed Green was also Deputy Chairman (Political) of Upminster Conservative Association - if I remember right, that means he was the official in charge of candidate selection. can't even properly vet himself? |
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Post by olympian95 on Aug 10, 2023 22:28:16 GMT
LD gain Castle Cary
Lib Dem 1,247
Con 614
Green 415
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Post by jamesdoyle on Aug 10, 2023 22:28:20 GMT
Lib Dems win the Castle Cary by-election (gain from Conservative)
Lib Dem 1,247
Con 614
Green 415
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Post by manchesterman on Aug 10, 2023 22:46:47 GMT
Lib Dems win the Castle Cary by-election (gain from Conservative) Lib Dem 1,247 Con 614 Green 415 LD 54.8% Con 27% Green 18.2%
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Post by manchesterman on Aug 10, 2023 22:48:58 GMT
I think rightleaning almost hit a bullseye in the prediction contest for this one! |
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